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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 14 2010 19:57 GMT
#2521
On September 15 2010 04:22 travis wrote:
ok eshlow, advice time

for hands back manna
i put my hands in the right spot, fingers mostly back
and managed to lift up and hold into a tuck (just trying to build strength in my arms/shoulders for it)

the thing is, this feels like INTENSE pressure on my wrists. I'm not a pussy and I didn't think it was actually going to hurt them so i held it anyways but it felt like if there was too much pressure like my wrists would just freaking snap, lol. is this normal? is it just cuz my wrists are too tight?


You're trying to lean back instead of push the hips forward.

Focus on pushing the hips forward really hard (or alternatively driving your PALMS backwards). This forces the hips up and out, and makes you lean back less....

It's just like hands forward planche... you lean too much it hurts. Except with planche you need to lean forward. Manna you don't have to lean back much
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 14 2010 20:24 GMT
#2522
ok you're right i was trying to lean back i'll cut that out haha

another question



this is the right splits to be doing to help with manna / straddle during front lever, right?

if so, im kinda confused as to why it's called "straddle" front lever but "middle split hold" when they both use the same kind of flexibility

the whole straddle/middle split thing confuses me in general actually
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 14 2010 20:57 GMT
#2523
On September 15 2010 04:07 Necosarius wrote:
I'm gonna do this. I've felt bad the whole day today because of my lack of training and I want to change the way I feel right now. In january I'm going to Mexico on vacation and I'm not gonna look like a slob there.



Nicklas
Age: 20 || Height: 167 cm || Weight: 82 kg (78 pre-SS)
Starting Date: 20100701 || Goal Date: 20110127
Weight goals -- ~70 kg
Training goals -- SS and some cardio/HIIT
Nutrition goals -- STOP DRINKING SODA
Misc goals -- Harder, better, faster, stronger. Improve flexibility would be nice as well.

I'm gonna fucking do this!!!



FUCK YEAAAAAAASSSSSS


TEAMLIQUID PEOPLE MADNESSS

BOOYAAAAAH
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 14 2010 21:02 GMT
#2524
lawl funkie's on da roids
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
September 14 2010 21:24 GMT
#2525
How come i didnt get a FUCK YEAS when i introduced myself. =[
i be that pretty motherfucker
fatduck
Profile Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
September 14 2010 22:08 GMT
#2526
Gym finally re-opened and I got to work with barbells for the first time, I think DBs must be a lot harder because I moved up 15 lbs on my bench and squat, bench was pretty tough but I hit all the reps, squat felt pretty easy (the auxiliary gym only had dumbbells up to 60 so I was stuck at 120 for a couple workouts). I'm at 115 lb bench and 135 squat now (bodyweight 134).
good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 15 2010 01:04 GMT
#2527
so yes.

I need to find out my weight .
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 15 2010 05:02 GMT
#2528
On September 15 2010 05:24 travis wrote:
ok you're right i was trying to lean back i'll cut that out haha

another question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU4BbZDvCBM

this is the right splits to be doing to help with manna / straddle during front lever, right?

if so, im kinda confused as to why it's called "straddle" front lever but "middle split hold" when they both use the same kind of flexibility

the whole straddle/middle split thing confuses me in general actually


Dunno. Straddle-L is named for hands in front hold though... so they can't call it straddle hold or anything.

Not sure what I would call it if I was naming it. It's a pretty weird position, especially if you try to transition it straddled with the hips pushed forward.

And yes, that is the correct flexibility. German hangs/shoulder flex + straddle split
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
September 15 2010 17:12 GMT
#2529
On September 14 2010 18:13 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 16:30 NickC wrote:
cant u bench without a spotter? if ur doing 3x5 it shudnt be too bad right? so long as ur not stupid. using dumbells means u can only make 5kg increments which is way too much?


Having a spotter makes benching entirely different. It's not just the fact that you don't have to worry about injury, but that it gives you a psychological advantage. I've had 5th reps that I thought I'd NEVER bust out, but I fought for it with my spotter there and was able to get it. Everybody benches better with a spotter.

Go get one. If you have to ask someone at the gym to spot you, ask someone at the gym to spot you. The people who work there should be willing to help.

If you're working out at home alone ... well, good luck. Invite a buddy over to help you out.


I pretty much agree with this. I don't need the psychological advantage as much (I think I can pretty much, psychologically, get through anything) as much as preventing an injury. I don't use spotters for anything else (Squat, whatever) because I can get out of it. For some reason I don't think I can get out of a bar falling from above me in time haha

oh and Im not on SS, somewhat a variation.

Also, I have a question about my wrist on the bench press for you experts. My left wrist is always bent backwards; no matter how hard I try, my right wrist stays straight, and my left wrist bends back. Even today when I was doing only 70kg on the bench (after resetting from 88kg), my damn left wrist kept bending back. What is the solution for this? Should I just wrap it as hard as I can?


I don't know how you bench, but most people that have this problem rest the bar against the top of their hand (by the start of the fingers) instead, your bar is supposed to rest at the bottom (Palm I guess) of your hand. Try that and let me know how it works. Look at the benching video I posted on pg 126

~
So yesterday I went to my university's gym for the first time. And I went lifting with a bunch (two lol)of buddies. They stuckwith my for the first few BB shrugs but once I went to rows they ditched and went to work on their show muscles (biceps, chest) haha. along with a few dozen crunches I think. I finished my back and was too tired to do my biceps, so looks like today im doing cardio (1/2 mile), abs, and biceps. :\ Damn. lol


And man, those German Hangs/Manna or whatever that stuff is (gymnastic stuff I presume?) looks crazy haha
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
September 15 2010 18:11 GMT
#2530
Being an insomniac sucks, only 3 hours of sleep last night I felt so weak but still managed 85 kg squats and 50 kg bench 2x5. Didn't dare to try the last set, I felt so dizzy and now I got a headache as well. Gonna take some rest now and hopefully I will get some sleep tonight. Will have to find a site with recipes, I'm such a bad cook lol.
NickC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
233 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 01:43:21
September 16 2010 01:38 GMT
#2531
started new job today. cleaning dishes/metal trays/pots as fast as yu can for 7 hours straight without cessation? i dont give myself very long to survive honestly this is a new meaning of hardcore

was exhausted but thought i should man up and go to gym. ended up shouting at a random guy "IM FINISHED ON HERE NOW" when it wasnt him who asked for my bench. he was like wtf? also started taking some weights off a guy's bar as he was getting ready to lift it. tired in gym = lollerments

squat 50 (+2.5)
bpress shit
leg raise 3x11

3 mins tanning booth



why do i wake up like 2-4 hours after sleeping even when im INSANELY TIRED BEYOND BELIEF? is it becoz i need to pee?? i always pee before sleeping. its really bothersome lately

like tonight i was beyond belief tired, felt soooo good to sink into nothingeness. had milk and chocolate and peed before bed. slept at 8.30pm woke up at 12.30am
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11053 Posts
September 16 2010 01:54 GMT
#2532
Managed to get someone to teach me power Cleans today. Arrgh they are so tough to learn. By the end I managed to figure out how to do a half decent one, unfortunately, I kept on landing on my toes/leaning forward for awhile so my knees are kinda hurting.

Did do 145 with slightly more comfort today. It was tough. Didn't "stall" but I think I might do a third day of it just to be safe. Feeling iffy right now if I can actually do 150lbs.

Press went up :D.

Just a note for the big guys here. Hearing your ridiculous numbers and stories is suprisingly encouraging. Please don't stop :D
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 16 2010 02:13 GMT
#2533
I've been working on power cleans as well Sabu, just got up to 155 today with what I believe was decent form. I can see where that shit will get hard.
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
September 16 2010 02:16 GMT
#2534
post videos of your form! I can try to help you.





Another pr today! 100kgx2 behind the neck jerks. :D I surprisingly did not miss any but had plenty of crappy lifts haha. Started doing dumbbell rows, trying to get my upper body strength up.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20025 Posts
September 16 2010 02:39 GMT
#2535
Dimsum you should play rugby and I want to see a video of an innocent looking small Asian manchild throw some huge fucker in the air
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 03:01:18
September 16 2010 02:51 GMT
#2536
I FUCKING OWNING..

AND BITCHES

LOOKING AT MY BODY AND SAYING SHIT LIKE

FUNKIE'S HOT AS HELL, FUNKIE'S HOT AS HELL.

lol

did pretty good. .

180lbs on Squat
195lbs on Deadlift
135lbs on Bench Press.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11053 Posts
September 16 2010 02:56 GMT
#2537
I've got to be honest and say that you're confusing me Funkie...

Your squat is 14lbs better than your deadlift o.O! Also... 4? instead of a 5 Nice thighs.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 16 2010 03:00 GMT
#2538
fuck, It's the other way around lol. And it's true it's a 5 ;/.

Damn.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
September 16 2010 03:01 GMT
#2539
On September 16 2010 11:39 decafchicken wrote:
Dimsum you should play rugby and I want to see a video of an innocent looking small Asian manchild throw some huge fucker in the air


Nah I would be scared of getting injured. Don't wanna miss anymore time lifting
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
September 16 2010 03:11 GMT
#2540
he probably converted from kg to lb
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