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On December 18 2013 13:36 teddyoojo wrote:
this is so fucked up when i watch like 1437 stream it seems to work fine for him why do i always get fucking imbeciles with 1k lower rating
this is so ridiculously annoying wtf
i seriously wonder how valve can justify pairing up a rating disparity of over 1000
Just saying...
If everyone in your games has 1k lower rating than you...
Then that's probably where your MMR is trying to adjust you to...
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Well, just encountered Ranked Rager Guy. It's kind of crazy how determined some people are to both suck at dota and prove that their team sucks instead.
Started out okay, he's taken LC, is talking on voice, coordinating his lane with a CM. They get a couple kills, all good. About ten mins in a gank goes bad and he dies. CM chose to run rather than die with him and he tells her off. Starts to become clear that we've got a problem. Talks for a good minute about what she did wrong and has that kind of edge in his voice that makes me wonder.
My fears are realised as soon as we're into midgame, when literally everything that goes wrong - prophet getting ganked, voker missing an SS, me missing a clock hook, literally anything - begins to trigger about a two-minute-long tirade. Eventually CM mutes him, the rest of us are slower on the uptake.
Obviously, LC himself is like 1-6-1 or something at this point, while the rest of us are solidly positive despite our apparently game-losing mistakes.
Also, this poor CM. She was solo warding almost the entire game, was friendly and helpful. She was a bit slow to TP and was a bit too afk while getting to mek, but, like, nothing serious. Constantly had detection on her for their shadowblades, actively counterwarding. And she just copped it over and over and over because I think she stole a jungle creep from him once or something. To her credit, she kept warding to the end of the game. I would have snapped and gone midas dagon long ago.
Game goes on, it's actually pretty close and would have been fun if not for this guy. I don't mute him because I'd still rather know what he's doing. Back and forwards, we lose our lead, get it back again, lose it again. We get a good teamfight and are looking at a couple towers, things are looking up. Unfortunately voker ghostwalks the wrong way out of the engagement, gets stuck and dies to their remaining heroes.
LC just totally loses it, rages for like five minutes straight. Voker respawns and stands in base or jungles or whatever while typing at this guy, and then just abandons. So now we're 4v5 and the game is gone, because this dude won't shut his mouth.
He actually had a self critical revelation about halfway through, which was: "It's my fault, really, guys. I shouldn't expect coordination from a pub team, you're all just solo queue scrubs. It's my fault. I'm sorry, I was assuming you wouldn't suck ass." Dead serious, straight face, as if it was a concession, while sitting on the worst scoreboard on the team.
At that point all I could do is laugh. I kept him unmuted all the way to the bitter end, mostly out of curiousity.
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On December 18 2013 07:37 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 06:43 idonthinksobro wrote:On December 18 2013 06:35 Darkren wrote:On December 17 2013 17:56 Kreb wrote:On December 17 2013 15:36 Darkren wrote:On December 17 2013 14:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
i can relate to how frustrating a game can be when your both the sole support of 4 people as well having another team player with either an ogre magi, visage and so on getting an aghs over wards until it's too late. Atlest agh on visage is legit, on ogre its just a 400 mana, low dmg stunt Ogre is also fat Woah, low damage? A 6sec CD nuke that at lvl 16 will hit for an average maybe 500 some (cba doing the math for average, feel free to if u want) damage and up to 1100. And stuns on top of it. Like every other standard nuke in the game is 250-350 damage on full level and generally in the 8-12sec CD area. Low damage? Its like the highest nuke damage in the game on a very low CD. As someone who played Ogre a lot, getting an Agh on him in the right circumstances is super legit and makes him one of the most legit supports lategame. Yes he has other problems (melee, needs lvls more than many other supports). Yes he needs mana to support the Agh. Yes going Agh first item is terrible. Yes you should obviously not forego other support duties to farm Agh. But if you get to the late parts of a game where even support have 2-3 big items, getting an Agh plus some mana regen item (Euls for poor man regen, Sheep/Bloodstone ideally though) can make you a beast. He should be higher prio than CM to get big items any day. ? Range: 600 Duration: 1.5 Damage: 275 Cooldown 6 sec Can multicast Manacost 400 Source http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Ogre_MagiThe lv 4 fireblast does 275 damage and cost 3x less mana, yes i conseder agh to be a worthless upgrade on ogre, a scythe would be way better, or a forcestaff, mek euls. Compared to other aghs upgrade this one is preaty terribad ill take visage buff bird anyday bro did you read the multicast description? do the math? I know what multicast does, the thing u have to realize is this gives him a spell that can multi but it cost 400 mana per cast, that means for one full round of spells (fireblast, unrefined, ignite) u spend close to 800 mana and u have to spend that same amount every 6 seconds, compared to his normal fireblast, unrefined is a piece of shit because realistically u will get it off maybe 1 time in a fight Agh on other hero provide immediate benefits with no detriments, Visage gets an extra bird, more damage, more stunts all that directly when he purchases aghs, Viper gets a lower cd ult with longer range, with lower mana. Sk gets more damage and slow off his ult and no additional mana cost. Clock gets reduced CD at no additional mana cost. Invoker gets 0 cd and 0 mana invoke. Disruptor gets to shut down items activation and increased damage and duration at no additional mana cost. Of course if we are talking about the theoretically 6 slotted ogre with an OD next to him then yes it is a good upgrade, but in every other situation a hex will help u immensely more in a fight then an agh (basically every support/mage items performs better than aghs on ogre) So it is a shitty upgrade that u shouldn't get. This reminds me of the NS agh and refresher thread were people are arguying that refresher is a good 9th item on ns ROFL
You realize you're just arguing for the sake of arguing right? You're even agreeing to what I said. You said the upgrade is a "low damage stunt". I explained its not. If anything its a fucking super high damage stunt. Which I think you realize. You even link the spell and all the mechnics which makes it a "high damage stunt". And you also dont say a word against it, so I can only assume you realize how high the damage is.
Instead you talk about the mana cost, which I DID say was a problem. And I DID say you should have suitable mana items do support the Agh. So once again you're pretty much confirming what I said. But please go play ogre and get Agh + good mana/mana regen items (say, a Bloodstone for example) and tell me you're not wrecking faces in fights.
Rest is just something about other Aghs on other heroes (why are we talking about this!?!?) and 6-slot ogre-talk (and why are we talking about this!?!?) which I'll leave since it a completely different topic.
Dont just argue for the sake of arguing. If you actually read my post, read what i wrote, think about what it means and read the circumstances I specify for when Agh is great, you'll most likely agree with me all the way through. You should anyway because thats how it is.
And after that go play some ogre and enjoy winning teamfights for your team because you sometimes shave off 75% of the enemy carries HP with 2 spells while simultaneously keeping him stunned for some ~4sec! =)
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On December 18 2013 17:55 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 07:37 Darkren wrote:On December 18 2013 06:43 idonthinksobro wrote:On December 18 2013 06:35 Darkren wrote:On December 17 2013 17:56 Kreb wrote:On December 17 2013 15:36 Darkren wrote:On December 17 2013 14:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
i can relate to how frustrating a game can be when your both the sole support of 4 people as well having another team player with either an ogre magi, visage and so on getting an aghs over wards until it's too late. Atlest agh on visage is legit, on ogre its just a 400 mana, low dmg stunt Ogre is also fat Woah, low damage? A 6sec CD nuke that at lvl 16 will hit for an average maybe 500 some (cba doing the math for average, feel free to if u want) damage and up to 1100. And stuns on top of it. Like every other standard nuke in the game is 250-350 damage on full level and generally in the 8-12sec CD area. Low damage? Its like the highest nuke damage in the game on a very low CD. As someone who played Ogre a lot, getting an Agh on him in the right circumstances is super legit and makes him one of the most legit supports lategame. Yes he has other problems (melee, needs lvls more than many other supports). Yes he needs mana to support the Agh. Yes going Agh first item is terrible. Yes you should obviously not forego other support duties to farm Agh. But if you get to the late parts of a game where even support have 2-3 big items, getting an Agh plus some mana regen item (Euls for poor man regen, Sheep/Bloodstone ideally though) can make you a beast. He should be higher prio than CM to get big items any day. ? Range: 600 Duration: 1.5 Damage: 275 Cooldown 6 sec Can multicast Manacost 400 Source http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Ogre_MagiThe lv 4 fireblast does 275 damage and cost 3x less mana, yes i conseder agh to be a worthless upgrade on ogre, a scythe would be way better, or a forcestaff, mek euls. Compared to other aghs upgrade this one is preaty terribad ill take visage buff bird anyday bro did you read the multicast description? do the math? I know what multicast does, the thing u have to realize is this gives him a spell that can multi but it cost 400 mana per cast, that means for one full round of spells (fireblast, unrefined, ignite) u spend close to 800 mana and u have to spend that same amount every 6 seconds, compared to his normal fireblast, unrefined is a piece of shit because realistically u will get it off maybe 1 time in a fight Agh on other hero provide immediate benefits with no detriments, Visage gets an extra bird, more damage, more stunts all that directly when he purchases aghs, Viper gets a lower cd ult with longer range, with lower mana. Sk gets more damage and slow off his ult and no additional mana cost. Clock gets reduced CD at no additional mana cost. Invoker gets 0 cd and 0 mana invoke. Disruptor gets to shut down items activation and increased damage and duration at no additional mana cost. Of course if we are talking about the theoretically 6 slotted ogre with an OD next to him then yes it is a good upgrade, but in every other situation a hex will help u immensely more in a fight then an agh (basically every support/mage items performs better than aghs on ogre) So it is a shitty upgrade that u shouldn't get. This reminds me of the NS agh and refresher thread were people are arguying that refresher is a good 9th item on ns ROFL You realize you're just arguing for the sake of arguing right? You're even agreeing to what I said. You said the upgrade is a "low damage stunt". I explained its not. If anything its a fucking super high damage stunt. Which I think you realize. You even link the spell and all the mechnics which makes it a "high damage stunt". And you also dont say a word against it, so I can only assume you realize how high the damage is. Instead you talk about the mana cost, which I DID say was a problem. And I DID say you should have suitable mana items do support the Agh. So once again you're pretty much confirming what I said. But please go play ogre and get Agh + good mana/mana regen items (say, a Bloodstone for example) and tell me you're not wrecking faces in fights. Rest is just something about other Aghs on other heroes (why are we talking about this!?!?) and 6-slot ogre-talk (and why are we talking about this!?!?) which I'll leave since it a completely different topic. Dont just argue for the sake of arguing. If you actually read my post, read what i wrote, think about what it means and read the circumstances I specify for when Agh is great, you'll most likely agree with me all the way through. You should anyway because thats how it is. And after that go play some ogre and enjoy winning teamfights for your team because you sometimes shave off 75% of the enemy carries HP with 2 spells while simultaneously keeping him stunned for some ~4sec! =)
I was confused at the "stunt" bit for a good 30 seconds. Apparently I'm really dumb :D
Anyways, if you're looking at the Ogre Magi in the context of a position 4 support, an Aghanims, while being a good item, is an item that requires ~5000 gold of items in addition to itself in order to fully be worth the investment. At somewhere around 300gpm, this means you're spending around 35 minutes of your income on something that, sure, is good, but is also quite probably somewhat redundant, team-wise. As a position 4 support your role isn't "Be super relevant lategame", it's "Help your team make space to take objectives or make room for your more important roles to farm their timings or slow their shit down"
If you're playing Ogre Magi in a farming role, then sure hitting an aghas + bloodstone or something timing is reasonable (maybe?), but the whole point was that in a supportive role that timing is waaay too late to be effective, and you're foregoing supportive items in order to make space for your uber items then that's actually really bad for your team overall.
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On December 18 2013 18:34 Staboteur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 17:55 Kreb wrote:On December 18 2013 07:37 Darkren wrote:On December 18 2013 06:43 idonthinksobro wrote:On December 18 2013 06:35 Darkren wrote:On December 17 2013 17:56 Kreb wrote:On December 17 2013 15:36 Darkren wrote:On December 17 2013 14:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
i can relate to how frustrating a game can be when your both the sole support of 4 people as well having another team player with either an ogre magi, visage and so on getting an aghs over wards until it's too late. Atlest agh on visage is legit, on ogre its just a 400 mana, low dmg stunt Ogre is also fat Woah, low damage? A 6sec CD nuke that at lvl 16 will hit for an average maybe 500 some (cba doing the math for average, feel free to if u want) damage and up to 1100. And stuns on top of it. Like every other standard nuke in the game is 250-350 damage on full level and generally in the 8-12sec CD area. Low damage? Its like the highest nuke damage in the game on a very low CD. As someone who played Ogre a lot, getting an Agh on him in the right circumstances is super legit and makes him one of the most legit supports lategame. Yes he has other problems (melee, needs lvls more than many other supports). Yes he needs mana to support the Agh. Yes going Agh first item is terrible. Yes you should obviously not forego other support duties to farm Agh. But if you get to the late parts of a game where even support have 2-3 big items, getting an Agh plus some mana regen item (Euls for poor man regen, Sheep/Bloodstone ideally though) can make you a beast. He should be higher prio than CM to get big items any day. ? Range: 600 Duration: 1.5 Damage: 275 Cooldown 6 sec Can multicast Manacost 400 Source http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Ogre_MagiThe lv 4 fireblast does 275 damage and cost 3x less mana, yes i conseder agh to be a worthless upgrade on ogre, a scythe would be way better, or a forcestaff, mek euls. Compared to other aghs upgrade this one is preaty terribad ill take visage buff bird anyday bro did you read the multicast description? do the math? I know what multicast does, the thing u have to realize is this gives him a spell that can multi but it cost 400 mana per cast, that means for one full round of spells (fireblast, unrefined, ignite) u spend close to 800 mana and u have to spend that same amount every 6 seconds, compared to his normal fireblast, unrefined is a piece of shit because realistically u will get it off maybe 1 time in a fight Agh on other hero provide immediate benefits with no detriments, Visage gets an extra bird, more damage, more stunts all that directly when he purchases aghs, Viper gets a lower cd ult with longer range, with lower mana. Sk gets more damage and slow off his ult and no additional mana cost. Clock gets reduced CD at no additional mana cost. Invoker gets 0 cd and 0 mana invoke. Disruptor gets to shut down items activation and increased damage and duration at no additional mana cost. Of course if we are talking about the theoretically 6 slotted ogre with an OD next to him then yes it is a good upgrade, but in every other situation a hex will help u immensely more in a fight then an agh (basically every support/mage items performs better than aghs on ogre) So it is a shitty upgrade that u shouldn't get. This reminds me of the NS agh and refresher thread were people are arguying that refresher is a good 9th item on ns ROFL You realize you're just arguing for the sake of arguing right? You're even agreeing to what I said. You said the upgrade is a "low damage stunt". I explained its not. If anything its a fucking super high damage stunt. Which I think you realize. You even link the spell and all the mechnics which makes it a "high damage stunt". And you also dont say a word against it, so I can only assume you realize how high the damage is. Instead you talk about the mana cost, which I DID say was a problem. And I DID say you should have suitable mana items do support the Agh. So once again you're pretty much confirming what I said. But please go play ogre and get Agh + good mana/mana regen items (say, a Bloodstone for example) and tell me you're not wrecking faces in fights. Rest is just something about other Aghs on other heroes (why are we talking about this!?!?) and 6-slot ogre-talk (and why are we talking about this!?!?) which I'll leave since it a completely different topic. Dont just argue for the sake of arguing. If you actually read my post, read what i wrote, think about what it means and read the circumstances I specify for when Agh is great, you'll most likely agree with me all the way through. You should anyway because thats how it is. And after that go play some ogre and enjoy winning teamfights for your team because you sometimes shave off 75% of the enemy carries HP with 2 spells while simultaneously keeping him stunned for some ~4sec! =) I was confused at the "stunt" bit for a good 30 seconds. Apparently I'm really dumb :D Anyways, if you're looking at the Ogre Magi in the context of a position 4 support, an Aghanims, while being a good item, is an item that requires ~5000 gold of items in addition to itself in order to fully be worth the investment. At somewhere around 300gpm, this means you're spending around 35 minutes of your income on something that, sure, is good, but is also quite probably somewhat redundant, team-wise. As a position 4 support your role isn't "Be super relevant lategame", it's "Help your team make space to take objectives or make room for your more important roles to farm their timings or slow their shit down" If you're playing Ogre Magi in a farming role, then sure hitting an aghas + bloodstone or something timing is reasonable (maybe?), but the whole point was that in a supportive role that timing is waaay too late to be effective, and you're foregoing supportive items in order to make space for your uber items then that's actually really bad for your team overall.
How does your math work, if I have 300 gpm and manage not to die i can buy aghs after 14 min.
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I think he means 34mins to get aghs + bloodstone
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On December 18 2013 07:07 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
The game has become unplayable since they removed solo que if you are alone. I hope they patch it back in.
Yeah its bloody awful. 
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you have an ench in your team that misses every stun with her creeps, goes for a ganking itembuild but never ganks and doest not know when to smoke. you check her rating and its 5k+ and she grinds ench all day...wtf
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5 melee and a lc abbadon niax trilane top with lycan mid. GG no re, killing some small animals now.
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On December 18 2013 20:08 StoRm_res wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 18:34 Staboteur wrote:On December 18 2013 17:55 Kreb wrote:On December 18 2013 07:37 Darkren wrote:On December 18 2013 06:43 idonthinksobro wrote:On December 18 2013 06:35 Darkren wrote:On December 17 2013 17:56 Kreb wrote:On December 17 2013 15:36 Darkren wrote:On December 17 2013 14:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
i can relate to how frustrating a game can be when your both the sole support of 4 people as well having another team player with either an ogre magi, visage and so on getting an aghs over wards until it's too late. Atlest agh on visage is legit, on ogre its just a 400 mana, low dmg stunt Ogre is also fat Woah, low damage? A 6sec CD nuke that at lvl 16 will hit for an average maybe 500 some (cba doing the math for average, feel free to if u want) damage and up to 1100. And stuns on top of it. Like every other standard nuke in the game is 250-350 damage on full level and generally in the 8-12sec CD area. Low damage? Its like the highest nuke damage in the game on a very low CD. As someone who played Ogre a lot, getting an Agh on him in the right circumstances is super legit and makes him one of the most legit supports lategame. Yes he has other problems (melee, needs lvls more than many other supports). Yes he needs mana to support the Agh. Yes going Agh first item is terrible. Yes you should obviously not forego other support duties to farm Agh. But if you get to the late parts of a game where even support have 2-3 big items, getting an Agh plus some mana regen item (Euls for poor man regen, Sheep/Bloodstone ideally though) can make you a beast. He should be higher prio than CM to get big items any day. ? Range: 600 Duration: 1.5 Damage: 275 Cooldown 6 sec Can multicast Manacost 400 Source http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Ogre_MagiThe lv 4 fireblast does 275 damage and cost 3x less mana, yes i conseder agh to be a worthless upgrade on ogre, a scythe would be way better, or a forcestaff, mek euls. Compared to other aghs upgrade this one is preaty terribad ill take visage buff bird anyday bro did you read the multicast description? do the math? I know what multicast does, the thing u have to realize is this gives him a spell that can multi but it cost 400 mana per cast, that means for one full round of spells (fireblast, unrefined, ignite) u spend close to 800 mana and u have to spend that same amount every 6 seconds, compared to his normal fireblast, unrefined is a piece of shit because realistically u will get it off maybe 1 time in a fight Agh on other hero provide immediate benefits with no detriments, Visage gets an extra bird, more damage, more stunts all that directly when he purchases aghs, Viper gets a lower cd ult with longer range, with lower mana. Sk gets more damage and slow off his ult and no additional mana cost. Clock gets reduced CD at no additional mana cost. Invoker gets 0 cd and 0 mana invoke. Disruptor gets to shut down items activation and increased damage and duration at no additional mana cost. Of course if we are talking about the theoretically 6 slotted ogre with an OD next to him then yes it is a good upgrade, but in every other situation a hex will help u immensely more in a fight then an agh (basically every support/mage items performs better than aghs on ogre) So it is a shitty upgrade that u shouldn't get. This reminds me of the NS agh and refresher thread were people are arguying that refresher is a good 9th item on ns ROFL You realize you're just arguing for the sake of arguing right? You're even agreeing to what I said. You said the upgrade is a "low damage stunt". I explained its not. If anything its a fucking super high damage stunt. Which I think you realize. You even link the spell and all the mechnics which makes it a "high damage stunt". And you also dont say a word against it, so I can only assume you realize how high the damage is. Instead you talk about the mana cost, which I DID say was a problem. And I DID say you should have suitable mana items do support the Agh. So once again you're pretty much confirming what I said. But please go play ogre and get Agh + good mana/mana regen items (say, a Bloodstone for example) and tell me you're not wrecking faces in fights. Rest is just something about other Aghs on other heroes (why are we talking about this!?!?) and 6-slot ogre-talk (and why are we talking about this!?!?) which I'll leave since it a completely different topic. Dont just argue for the sake of arguing. If you actually read my post, read what i wrote, think about what it means and read the circumstances I specify for when Agh is great, you'll most likely agree with me all the way through. You should anyway because thats how it is. And after that go play some ogre and enjoy winning teamfights for your team because you sometimes shave off 75% of the enemy carries HP with 2 spells while simultaneously keeping him stunned for some ~4sec! =) I was confused at the "stunt" bit for a good 30 seconds. Apparently I'm really dumb :D Anyways, if you're looking at the Ogre Magi in the context of a position 4 support, an Aghanims, while being a good item, is an item that requires ~5000 gold of items in addition to itself in order to fully be worth the investment. At somewhere around 300gpm, this means you're spending around 35 minutes of your income on something that, sure, is good, but is also quite probably somewhat redundant, team-wise. As a position 4 support your role isn't "Be super relevant lategame", it's "Help your team make space to take objectives or make room for your more important roles to farm their timings or slow their shit down" If you're playing Ogre Magi in a farming role, then sure hitting an aghas + bloodstone or something timing is reasonable (maybe?), but the whole point was that in a supportive role that timing is waaay too late to be effective, and you're foregoing supportive items in order to make space for your uber items then that's actually really bad for your team overall. How does your math work, if I have 300 gpm and manage not to die i can buy aghs after 14 min.
Doesnt matter. 2 stuns and a slow will eat my manapool like a lycan and i will need salves alot:D I cant sustain roaming or setting up ganks, because i tp back to fountain and have to walk 40 seconds after. Waste of gold and time, especially time is important, i will be less effective and my team will be 4v5 most of the time. Manaboot, Urn, Forcestaff or Bloodstone and then maybe a aghs is easier for me to execute ganks, tanking some damage and to not stop doing that! Ogre means pressure!
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On December 18 2013 20:54 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 07:07 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
The game has become unplayable since they removed solo que if you are alone. I hope they patch it back in. Yeah its bloody awful.
why did they do that anyway? And the language filter sure isn't working either. It's safe to say that there's no good, understandable communication going on in any games on west EU at the moment. You'd think this game was still in beta (maybe it should be)
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What everyone above said.
You need Aghas + an item before Aghas is truly worthwhile. If you spend your first 14 minutes of income getting an aghas, you've got literally nothing else and don't have -that- strong a timing created from your expensive item.
I also meant get boots -> bloodstone -> aghas for your 35 minutes of 300gpm, but again this is entirely unacceptable for a position 4 support IN ADDITION TO being items that don't have strong timings individually. You don't get bloodstone and go "Yeah now I can X better!", and you don't get aghas and say "Yes, this is a totally effective ganking and teamfighting item" UNTIL you also have your bloodstone to support your mana requirements.
Yeah. Supportive hero in supportive role buys supportive items, not entirely selfish items such as bloodstone and aghas.
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Guys you should move it to "General Discussion" / the Strategy subforum.
MyQQ: Just a simple losing streak. I mean ranked losing streak.
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Oh you can't land a hook on a stationary hero? DON'T PICK FUCKING PUDGE IN RANKED.
Oh, you're playing Furion? Why would you build a 50minute Dagon 1, after going Deso/Skadi(?!?!)/Vlads(!?!?!)/Arcane Boots(?!?!). I mean how retarded can you be? Not to mention this idiot couldn't land a Sprout (A fucking sprout!!!!) to save his life.
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Oh, and finally you think Wards and Dust are "Pussy" items? DON'T PICK A FUCKING SUPPORT.
Seriously I QQ'd about this exact same issue in a different game recently, but this time I was a Bounty who went well on the offlane, was about 3-0 in 10mins and I bought LITERALLY every ward. LITERALLY every dust. For the next 50 minutes.
I'm sick of it, not even joking I don't know why these people are in Ranked, and furthermore I don't know why I have to play with them. I just want to get my 10 Ranked matches over with but these imbeciles sure are making it tough.
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I don't even get why people play ranked. That's a guaranteed way to ruin any Dota enjoyment you're ever going to have, and it's not like that number it spits out actually means anything either
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QQstreak for the first time: eventually Ranked MM is turning into Newerth's MM.
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On December 18 2013 22:20 Quotidian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 20:54 -Celestial- wrote:On December 18 2013 07:07 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
The game has become unplayable since they removed solo que if you are alone. I hope they patch it back in. Yeah its bloody awful. why did they do that anyway? And the language filter sure isn't working either. It's safe to say that there's no good, understandable communication going on in any games on west EU at the moment. You'd think this game was still in beta (maybe it should be)
According to some people I've seen commenting its apparently because "must have ranked mode but can't split the player pool further".
Damn stupid idea honestly. All that crying for ranked has just wrecked the thing that made solo queue viable. :-\
Can you tell I'm annoyed at the loss of solo queue only? Because I am. >
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Playing my ranked games. I encounter a Riki who is an invisibility = invulnerability dumbass. We're standing idly mid for no god damn reason. As a support, I prefer to buy time at the towers while the carries go and farm. Nope - carries decide to stand there idly as well. So I go bot, riki dives in 1v5, dies. Team does the same. gg, games over. Same game a Russian invoker. Demands a swap - are you retarded? REPICK. Enters game. Can't do shit - goes offlane. I'm 0 0 4 with CM this game then I just left as Invoker abandoned. I am pretty pissed and argue.
Another game - hey let's stand low ground where we have a disadvantage instead of high ground. Also, you're all bottom with a tower and trying to defend. You complain when I'm gyrocopter farming at top - I could have easily teleported bottom if you force the other team to dive the tower - nope, you dive their tower and get killed, then complain that I'm not helping the team. I don't get to farm this game because Legion Commander, Phantom Assassin, Axe and Lich contest it - what's even more annoying is I picked gyro after the lich pick, then three more cores pick. PA and Axe feed a fuck load along with LC. Lich and I die 4 times each... these guys 10+ deaths... LC says "fine I'll support" and then proceeds to take my last hits. Genius. So being underfarmed, aquila and drums into BKB on time and manage to win team fights and shit.
Also team fighting. Why are people retarded? If you're Doom your priority is to doom that fucker who has an ultimate - e.g. Warlock, Lich etc. Nope. Doom the first person you see or not at all and die.
If this is ranked MM after I get my MMR I'm going to be real pissed.
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On December 19 2013 00:15 Quotidian wrote:
I don't even get why people play ranked. That's a guaranteed way to ruin any Dota enjoyment you're ever going to have, and it's not like that number it spits out actually means anything either
Someone else gets it!
The whole ranked system is the reason I stopped playing Starcraft: when the entire point of the game is to be hyper competitive and to attach meaning to every match, you just get unnecessarily mad every time you lose.
+ Show Spoiler +And yes I know they added unranked but it still revolves around what you perceive your MMR and what league you're in
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On December 19 2013 00:59 DavoS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 00:15 Quotidian wrote:
I don't even get why people play ranked. That's a guaranteed way to ruin any Dota enjoyment you're ever going to have, and it's not like that number it spits out actually means anything either Someone else gets it! The whole ranked system is the reason I stopped playing Starcraft: when the entire point of the game is to be hyper competitive and to attach meaning to every match, you just get unnecessarily mad every time you lose. + Show Spoiler +And yes I know they added unranked but it still revolves around what you perceive your MMR and what league you're in
It revolves around what ever you/your brain chooses it to revolve around. Some people played custom/team games in Starcraft, there is nothing stopping your from enjoying unranked in Dota like before.
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