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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
October 29 2013 01:30 GMT
#16081
In the lower skill levels this community is absolutely toxic.
#Hitpoint @ GameSurge (IDLE=BAN)
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 08:32:58
October 29 2013 08:26 GMT
#16082
On the 29th day of October my true love gave to me

four decent opponents
three inbred morons
two turtle doves
and a shitty solo queue

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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
October 29 2013 08:50 GMT
#16083
So painful when you're doing an awesome job warding, but your allies never use the information to find safe farm. They use it to engage the 5 man deathball that just secured an aegis.
I think esports is pretty nice.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 29 2013 10:46 GMT
#16084
On October 29 2013 10:08 SilverSkyLark wrote:
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On October 29 2013 03:06 Chrobbus wrote:
On October 29 2013 02:49 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On October 29 2013 02:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 29 2013 02:30 SilverSkyLark wrote:
If you play support most of the time, it gives you the first picks so you are "forced" to get a carry.

?
My brain now hurts

Just a hunch. I've played support most of the time and I think that in Random Draft, when you're given the first 1-2 picks, you're supposed to get the carry in the hero pool cuz otherwise the other team might get all the good ones, leaving your team with nothing.


Usually you should be going for the best supports in the pool first, since they are way more important than a specific hard carry. If you don't have proper supports, you most likely will end with a mix of semi & hard carries where no one might want to support. In the other scenario, you will just pick what's left as your hard carry. If there is no 'true' hard carry you simply move a 'normal support' to that position (such as venge, veno or whatever, which can easily work and even crush teams with hard carries such as AM/ALCH or whatever who have no proper support behind them).



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On October 29 2013 03:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 29 2013 02:49 SilverSkyLark wrote:
On October 29 2013 02:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 29 2013 02:30 SilverSkyLark wrote:
If you play support most of the time, it gives you the first picks so you are "forced" to get a carry.

?
My brain now hurts

Just a hunch. I've played support most of the time and I think that in Random Draft, when you're given the first 1-2 picks, you're supposed to get the carry in the hero pool cuz otherwise the other team might get all the good ones, leaving your team with nothing.

Getting a good support hero is a lot more important to the vast majority of lineups than getting a good carry. Even "meh" carries do fine with $$$ unless you are against pros (yah right). Not to mention that most pools have like 3 good supports tops and like 8+ reasonable carries.



Oh right, my bad. Yay more games as support for me.



If you really want to go all the way on picking in RD then look through the pool and analyse what is lacking in it before you pick. Some Drafts won't have a lot of carry, others will lack initiators or mids or supports. Then pick up the best of the one with the lowest amount to give your team an edge.

But yeah, there's nothing to say you can't just pick support early.



Only had time for one game of DOTA2 last night. Not sure if I should be rejoicing or QQing about that. >_>
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
October 29 2013 11:08 GMT
#16085
Played solo queue - 8 straight wins.
After That
Played 6 games with 4 friends, all loss....
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 14:10:42
October 29 2013 13:57 GMT
#16086
Woops, wrong thread.
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HellNino
Profile Joined September 2011
France156 Posts
October 29 2013 15:41 GMT
#16087
Every time you buy a quelling blade instead of a stout shield, god kills a cat!
(And your supports cry a little, but i suppose you dont care about us having to babysit you all time you greedy piece of crap!)
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 29 2013 15:54 GMT
#16088
8th loss in a row, I dominated the game with Invoker but our lineup wasn't built to deal with the classic furion picker...

GG, can't wait to see that hero removed from the fucking game.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
October 29 2013 16:02 GMT
#16089
Went into a co-op game, and exactly as I feared, the idiot pubs had picked up on the recent Midas craze. Worse yet, I randomed Huskar, which is probably the worse hero to use against enemy bots since they always stick like glue.

There was a light at the end of the tunnel. Some guy on our team was a cliff-jungling np, with one exception. He didnt get items or anything, he just teleported between the 2 cliffs and killed creeps. Didn't talk, didn't complain when there was no courier at 20 minutes (I couldnt be fucked honestly) and had 5k gold pooled up.

I did one of the most satisfying things ever- I bought a set of wards and warded the 2 cliff jungling camps. The furion continued teleporting between the cliffs- but of course there was nothing there. At this point I was sure he was a bot or something to leech items and exp from games. But since I had warded his camps, he eventually stopped moving, and eventually abandoned. Felt so good
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 16:03:39
October 29 2013 16:03 GMT
#16090
lolololololol (@above)
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
October 29 2013 16:08 GMT
#16091
On October 30 2013 01:02 xAdra wrote:
Went into a co-op game, and exactly as I feared, the idiot pubs had picked up on the recent Midas craze. Worse yet, I randomed Huskar, which is probably the worse hero to use against enemy bots since they always stick like glue.

There was a light at the end of the tunnel. Some guy on our team was a cliff-jungling np, with one exception. He didnt get items or anything, he just teleported between the 2 cliffs and killed creeps. Didn't talk, didn't complain when there was no courier at 20 minutes (I couldnt be fucked honestly) and had 5k gold pooled up.

I did one of the most satisfying things ever- I bought a set of wards and warded the 2 cliff jungling camps. The furion continued teleporting between the cliffs- but of course there was nothing there. At this point I was sure he was a bot or something to leech items and exp from games. But since I had warded his camps, he eventually stopped moving, and eventually abandoned. Felt so good


*applause* :D

Well done, sir.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
October 29 2013 17:30 GMT
#16092
I love furion
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
October 29 2013 17:35 GMT
#16093
Remove Furion, Broodmother and Necrobook from the game

A game is supposed to be fun, those heroes for USELESS FAGS are both non-fun to play and non-fun to play against, and are a fucking freewin in any pub at any skill level unless you're a retarded disabled piece of shit
schmitty9800
Profile Joined August 2010
United States390 Posts
October 29 2013 17:35 GMT
#16094
For some reason any time I say something like "don't engage until we farm XXX or YYY" or "we need to group up and push a tower" something to that effect, pubs seem to view that as a challenge and try some aggressive farm or try to jump on someone who's obvious bait. If you're going to do something different/stupid, at least let me know!
Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
October 29 2013 18:58 GMT
#16095
On October 30 2013 02:35 Fatalize wrote:
Remove Furion, Broodmother and Necrobook from the game

A game is supposed to be fun, those heroes for USELESS FAGS are both non-fun to play and non-fun to play against, and are a fucking freewin in any pub at any skill level unless you're a retarded disabled piece of shit


Are you kidding? The new brood is great fun to play. What isnt fun is being matched with teammates that dont understand how brood is useless if you hug her and try to fight 5v5.
If i got 1 euro for each time my friendly requests of "Please try to push another lane if they try to gank me in the jungle/offlane..." got ignored, only to be met with "LOL brood noob farming all game" 10 minutes later i could probably make a living from playing brood.
"Did you know that in the original batman movie they casted nestea as joker but when batman threw him into the acid he was fine so they had to recast it with Jack Nicholson......it's a true fact" -Artosis
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
October 29 2013 19:32 GMT
#16096
for all the NP haters:

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Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
October 29 2013 19:49 GMT
#16097
just played a game as a veno (on dire) with a moron of an Elder Titan on my team.. when asked why he didn't get stomp vs the enemy sand king, he said he was going "0-4-4-0" and refused to explain why he tought that was a good idea. This also meant he didn't get his ult until 9, and we had no other disables on our team. What's worse, there were a couple team fights on the highground near the radiant ancients - PERFECT place for ET ulti.. Add to that how he started feeding a lot at level 8 and his ult was even more delayed, and yeah.. pubs, man.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 29 2013 19:53 GMT
#16098
Bone7 is playing 0-4-4-0 ET as we speak.

I mean, he's way past level 8 now but thats how he played this game. Its decently standard in pro games.

(not commenting on how good/bad it is, just that this guy is copying pros not wilfully being dumb).
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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
October 29 2013 20:18 GMT
#16099
On October 30 2013 04:49 Quotidian wrote:
just played a game as a veno (on dire) with a moron of an Elder Titan on my team.. when asked why he didn't get stomp vs the enemy sand king, he said he was going "0-4-4-0" and refused to explain why he tought that was a good idea. This also meant he didn't get his ult until 9, and we had no other disables on our team. What's worse, there were a couple team fights on the highground near the radiant ancients - PERFECT place for ET ulti.. Add to that how he started feeding a lot at level 8 and his ult was even more delayed, and yeah.. pubs, man.

so you decided that trying a lineup with exactly two disables, neither of which are particularly reliable, was a good idea why exactly?
I'm not saying that he's not stupid but you're all pretty fucking stupid yourselves.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
October 29 2013 21:02 GMT
#16100
On October 30 2013 05:18 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 04:49 Quotidian wrote:
just played a game as a veno (on dire) with a moron of an Elder Titan on my team.. when asked why he didn't get stomp vs the enemy sand king, he said he was going "0-4-4-0" and refused to explain why he tought that was a good idea. This also meant he didn't get his ult until 9, and we had no other disables on our team. What's worse, there were a couple team fights on the highground near the radiant ancients - PERFECT place for ET ulti.. Add to that how he started feeding a lot at level 8 and his ult was even more delayed, and yeah.. pubs, man.

so you decided that trying a lineup with exactly two disables, neither of which are particularly reliable, was a good idea why exactly?
I'm not saying that he's not stupid but you're all pretty fucking stupid yourselves.


it's a pub/all pick.. you can't rely on good team comps, although we had a lot of aoe with myself and an invoker (he had some disables too, I guess.. although he was going exort mostly, not exactly great either but he was good with sunstrike)

But when people are doing builds that don't synergize at all or fill utility gaps, and refuse to adjust, it's perfectly legitimate to QQ

On October 30 2013 04:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
Bone7 is playing 0-4-4-0 ET as we speak.

I mean, he's way past level 8 now but thats how he played this game. Its decently standard in pro games.

(not commenting on how good/bad it is, just that this guy is copying pros not wilfully being dumb).


I'm sure bOne7 isn't going 0-4-4-0 in a vacuum. You have to take a look at the other team (like if you have an SK on the other team, it's not bad to stomp vs sand storm) ..and if you have a lot of AOEs on your team or a lack of disables, you should get your ult ASAP because of the synergy with other people's abilities
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