EPTDota 2 QQ thread - Page 649
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fuzzy_panda
New Zealand1681 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
edit. Great and the next match I get the russian who last picks Riki and the Clockwerk who misses every hook. I understand if you miss Pudge hook because it travels kinda slowly ( but it's still really hard to miss ), BUT please tell me how do you miss the hook with Clockwerk. That thing goes 200km/h, you just have to click on the hero you want to hook and it works 99% of the time. Jesus Christ it's so infuriating to stomp your lane and then lose because two of your teammates are not supposed to play with you and picked a high impact hero. edit2: Third match of the day. I pick QoP mid, as usual I win my lane and I start ganking. I gank their AM and kill him plenty of times. All fine, BUT NOPE. Our fucking carry has only yasha (Mirana) 30 minutes in with a free lane to farm. It's all good because I'm really fat so I ask my team to ward the enemy woods so I can hunt AM. Nobody buys wards, I don't have gold because I bought my items and AM own us. tl;dr: lost another game because a noob selected carry and failed while the enemy team just turtled their way to victory. How awesome is this game ? Once again, thanks a lot Valve for messing up my mmr, I am enjoying so much these games !!!!! edit3: game 4 of the day ! YEEE This time I tried to pick support and still lost the game ! Guess what ! Our mid lane puck lost against bloodseeker and our carry couldn't farm with an empty lane. edit4: Game 5. I pick the lancer. I am laning with a Rubick, he seems good and we get like 3 kills in lane. Everything is going fine and then the SK on our team decides to start trolling and starts feeding. I guess that the MM doesn't want me to win a game. Apparently I am supposed to get punished because I want to play alone. Good system. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
Game 2, I played with a friend, Venge (me) and Pudge (friend) and Windrunner, Abbadon, and Gyro at Radiant. We were up against, Meepo, Medusa, Zeus, Veno, and Alchemist. I was letting pudge get the hits cuz I know that we will pretty much wreak havoc come mid game. He did get his urn quite early and we were going around the Dire forest and I was warding all over the place. We were doing pretty well, stalling the Meepo and Medusa pretty good until shit happened. Gyro decided to roam and gank with us. You're probably thinking, "Hey, if you were getting so much gold from roaming and ganking, why not share the gold with Gyro?". Actually, it was better that he stay in the lane, because the enemy were too afraid of even go tower hugging since pudge can just get them for easy pickings. A couple of moments later, gyro had farmed good and after his Shadow Blade, he got Aghanims Scepter. Scepter man, not bkb, not life steal, not crit, not mkb or butterfly, but fucking scepter. That was when my friend hit me a message and said that he should have played hard carry. Abbadon and Windrunner had pretty decent items but they made stupid decisions. There came a time when all the tier 2 of Dire was down and we were just outside their mid tower applying constant pressure. Our pudge was trying to hook someone out but to no avail. We kept on telling the team to stay at mid and pressure until wards finished cooldown so I can plant some base wards and pudge can get better hooks. That was when misplay number 3 happened: Abbaddon told Gyro to go push bottom and WR to push top. Come on, split push at the enemy tier 3 when they're still all alive? It doesn't take that much travel time to defend tier 3s as compared to you running around split pushing. We told wr and gyro to stay but to no avail. They decided to push out anyway and of course they almost get picked off. Eventually we get pushed out the middle cuz 2/5 of us had low hp and that was when things fell apart and we just lost. | ||
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anonymitylol
Canada4477 Posts
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Rimstalker
Germany734 Posts
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NFLkayne
United Kingdom13 Posts
Drow vs pudge fail replay ID: 247578017 | ||
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chupavac
Croatia22 Posts
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NFLkayne
United Kingdom13 Posts
On July 21 2013 03:13 NFLkayne wrote: Ok so i just want to say that im playing like a mentally retarded seal recently, thought id pull out the prime example from my recent games. I know im bad, dont need people to tell me that (well perhaps if it offers some constructive purpose), but "huehueuhue, y u so n00b?!" doesnt help me get any better. Why qq? Because after watching this replay, i can see some things that are wrong in my play but im starting to rage because i cant figure out what it is im doing that is so horribly wrong. Like fb i give to pudge, as soon as pudge approaches the creep wave do i back off incase hes not trying to last hit and is making an aggressive play? Or should i just learn to dodge hooks better? I dont know, need some help from someone who is better at this game the me. Drow vs pudge fail replay ID: 247578017 PREPARE FOR SOME NOTES ON GAME Mess up block... :S If you dont see mid at start prob at runes, care for fb ganks Bro,.... learn to fucking last hit. As soon as pudge comes towards creep wave back off, you can win a 1v1 if he lands hook, if hook misses then kill him. Do not take an aggresive position, stay in xp range, take last hits/denies where you can, play safe. Pudge with levels can win the game for their team especially in pubs. Once you give fb to pudge you have a gold and xp disadvantage, play extra safe, you cant take an aggressive position at this point unless you get help from another lane All focus should be payed to dodging the hook if he makes an aggressive move on you, make sure your screen gives enough room to keep running to base, to dodge to either side and to have vision of pudge. Your eyes should be fixed on the pudge, to see if he trys hook. When pudge goes ss in a pub ping other players and tell them exactly what to do, they have to get out of vision, behind creep wave or in trees, guarded by tower, until the pudge leaves. Ideally have the runes warded so you can see what rune he gets. If you have a spell that can give vision of likely areas hell be hiding use it, once he knows his cover is blown hell likely back off and return mid to either gank or farm. Always check his bottle for his rune, an empty bottle means he could have used an illusion rune and your looking at an illusion. So if you get hooked in a bit and dont expect him to have an empty bottle. Unless you know he didnt get the illusion rune. When pudge is missing you should take steps to try and single out where he could be. Look at where you have vision, was there anyway he could have got an invis rune? Dire side jungle camp just south of easy camp is very dangerous, players will often ward it as you get vision of rune and lots of attack paths aswell Tp's can be heard if your not looking at them, useful? When you lose vision of enemy heroes, always think about your positioning, could someone have tp'd to that lane to gank you? If so, will they be able to gank you, do you have vision, should you back off, are you alone? Something that i do way to much is use myself as a scout, if i want vision of an area because someone could be hiding there to gank, i walk there to get vision to check..... dont do it. Idiot. (Alternatives, ward) Awareness of daytime vision range and night vision range, am i actually hidden? I was mid, 16 mins into game 1250 gold 34 cs 1-3-0 (and i wonder why i die? At 16:30 i die simply because i dont check what rune the pudge has, i silence him but fail to appreciate how short the length of the silence is at level 1. Its not long enough for me to kill him, especially inseeing im underleveled and underfarmed. When you see a pl on minimap try and work out whether it is an illusion or not, you can generally tell by the damage it deals and the damage it takes. If its the real one help keep in distance of ally who is in lane with it. Treat pudge like a riki in some circumstances. He is very likely to be invis. Either from smoke, invis rune or shadow blade if hes playing pub stomp builds. If you see 3 of your team grouped against 3 of theirs go to your team so that if they engage your team has the advantage. Basically just use your brain when deciding where your needed. 20:48... Does it really need explaining, when they have 2 guaranteed stuns a missing pudge and a sniper, be super careful not to get out of position.... Like i did.... Only 2 x multi cast, i wasnt unlucky just really bad play. Important thing to note about drow, she has no real escape unless you get shadow blade. Her stun and slow can help escape along with jukes but that requires strong play on my part and even then is not always guaranteed. Better to play safe and not get into a situation where i have to escape. When taking a drow mid and we have a jungler on our team. I need to get my farm from cs mid and ganks. The jungler will be taking the jungle creeps most of the time, and chances are well have either 1-2 other carries in game, so i cant take their farm on lane. 24:15 the reason i died wasnt because i didnt get b in time, it was that i went in in the first place. After silencer dies, i should take safe route back to base, me going back in causes doom and visage to go back in. What i didnt think about in game, was that we had a brood on our team, even if i got my shadow blade earlier, chances are theyll have detection because of the brood. Remember that the more invis we have on our team the more likely it is that theyll have detection. Use sb defensively in these situations. So another thing about this game is that our lineup kind of sucks. Sniper is likely to get mjollner or something of the sort and with pl and sven cleave they will be pushing hard. Counter push lineup would be good, a gyro mid would have been a much better pick? Lifestealer would have ripped through sven/pudge, when pl gets heart would have got him too. Brood has strong push but with detection and cleave its just free gold to the sven. In this game we basically shouldnt have died. Losing our towers is understandable given their team compared to ours, but the 1-10-0 isnt acceptable really. 31:30, i should be in def mode, i shouldnt hit the low ground, unless our entire team decides to engage(not sure why we would decide to engage where me and silencer where, but meh). When i see pudge land the sick hook on sven to get him out of the base i should realise that they have wards in our base, unless he is some sort of god when blind hooking. After this its gg, taking racks, fountain camping etc. Cant really analyse this too much. And thats just some notes i made on the game, any help would be awesome, im having a mental breakdown here. Also is there a more appropriate thread. I know my shitty play makes me angry so maybe its qq but i couldnt find a thread that said help for n00b plays. | ||
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Comogury
United States412 Posts
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
Then their Gyro afk-abandons. We win. 0 items ..... So because their fucking Gyro abandons I dont get a player card?  | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On July 21 2013 04:25 Zocat wrote: I play compendium matchmaking. Everything working out for my team (first blood at rune, early kills, etc). Then their Gyro afk-abandons. We win. 0 items ..... So because their fucking Gyro abandons I dont get a player card? Early abandon yields no points or items. if it wasn't early abandon, it might be as simple as the game not really finishing properly. This is a server side bug and happens regularly. You'll get the "win", points, and items, at a later point. | ||
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1nobody
Czech Republic2040 Posts
Cause awesome matchmaking system matched two teams, where the players had following amounts of wins Wins: 15, 19, 576, 20, 2 vs Wins: 543, 310, 587, 23, 253 the guy with 2 wins picked sniper and buy boots first and goes mid. Nice patch. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On the other hand, I broke my record of a 9 game loss streak. 10 games and counting! WOOHOOO! ^_^ | ||
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Linkark07
37 Posts
First match I pick WR. Should go safe lane, stupid PA goes there with Axe jungling. I'm alone in hard lane. No matter, I can handle that with a BS and Lion. Problem is, Lion is moving between lanes. Still, that can be handled. Bought some wards so I could spot him. But, even if I said where he was going, my *insert bad word here* teammates didn't react so Lion ganked them. GG, the enemy team got fed. Second match going with CM. Was laning with Weaver, we were doing great and managed to win the lane. We even had a lead over the enemy team. But suddenly, Slardar was initating fights alone and the rest of the team tried to help him getting killed immediately. GG, lost again because they got fed. Last match went with Tide. Superb, was moving between lanes helping my teammates. Everything looked fine, the gankings were great and we were getting fed. But Morphling suddenly dced and without his help our gankings were meaningless. GG again. Sigh, that's why I hate pubs so much. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On July 21 2013 07:56 Linkark07 wrote: First match I pick WR. Should go safe lane, stupid PA goes there with Axe jungling. I'm alone in hard lane. No matter, I can handle that with a BS and Lion. Problem is, Lion is moving between lanes. Still, that can be handled. Bought some wards so I could spot him. But, even if I said where he was going, my *insert bad word here* teammates didn't react so Lion ganked them. GG, the enemy team got fed. Wait...PA took safelane instead of WR, and that's a bad thing? | ||
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Linkark07
37 Posts
On July 21 2013 07:59 WolfintheSheep wrote: Wait...PA took safelane instead of WR, and that's a bad thing? Yeah, that's what the team agreed. Don't recall which were the other 2 heroes though. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
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