Dota 2 QQ thread - Page 651

On July 22 2013 01:45 Mafe wrote:
Play support, keep wards up all the time and what do your teammate carries, do when they see a gank incoming? That's right, they don't retreat, they don't they stay at the nearby tower, they don't even keep farming, but directly run into the ganking squad.
Seriously I don't even know how often this has happened in recent games, but strangely we still some of them.

On July 21 2013 22:57 PassiveAce wrote:
yeah people seem to think that replays in dota are less valuable then in starcraft, which is totally ridiculous. Even if dota has more elements that are out of your control you can always find stuff that you could have done better.

On July 22 2013 01:59 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Yeah playing support is funny. Was playing on my low level smurf that I use when I get back into the game after like a month being away (I get rusty as fuck on mechanics), and I was denying creeps and zoning the enemy alch as lich, and what does the skeleton king I am laning with do? Pushes the lane, auto attacking so much that it overpowers my creep deny. Suddenly I can no longer zone the alch, who gets farm.

I repeatedly ask him to stop auto attacking. His response: "I am farming". I had to spend so much time explaining what that's bad idea, telling him I cant zone the alch, it pushes ineffectively against their tower, how the skeleton king couldn't safely farm because we're exposed....and he still ignores me. Finally, they three man gank the sk that's basically pushed our wave to the tower, and I totally bailed on his ass (it's not like I could have stopped it, I was lich with no ult). He got what he deserved. Then I'm like "and that's precisely why you don't push the lane like you were, as I explained previously", and he finally conceded that what he was doing was stupid, which is progress, I guess.

Still won because lich is EZ rape in pubs as long as you have at least one decent ally, but god damn. Shit is frustrating.

On July 22 2013 02:46 Targe wrote:


I've given up telling people to last hit.

On July 22 2013 03:31 BallinWitStalin wrote:


Well, he wasn't quite THAT bad. He knew how to last hit (poorly), he would just sit there attacking creeps down until near the end and THEN get the last hit, which had the effect of hardcore pushing the lane. Frustrating when I am playing lich, which is all about lane control and zoning. Against a solo alch, too, that guy should have been like level 2 six minutes in, but this dumb sk kept feeding him waves to the tower.

On July 22 2013 02:24 NFLkayne wrote:


Yeah, i feel its quite a bit like poker, a science of imperfect information. You have to take more notice of the things that you dont know, to make a correct decision, and sometimes you can be punished when you make a correct decision.

On July 22 2013 08:55 Targe wrote:
Fuck you MM and your ridiculous matchings, yes a team of 400-800 wins is perfect against me and my friends and their 100 wins.

On July 22 2013 06:56 Kmatt wrote:
Queuing RD with a friend, that seems to be the most sensible mode.

For once we get the first picks, I see that there are few carries in pool, grab Sven. My friend was alt-tabbed and randomed AM. Could be worse. Then the third guy (rubick) starts throwing a tantrum over not picking supports first and demands AM go mid as some kind of punishment. They draft

OD
Dis Raptor
Earthshaker
Warlock
Dark Seer

So basically no physical damage aside from golem punches. They have early push potential, but if we just grab early BKBs we can laugh at their useless spells.

Somehow it's decided that Rubick will try to babysit AM hardlane (maybe he was stealing lasthits to spite him or something? I didn't watch), I was bot with Tidehunter (I would normally point out that he was basically useless the whole game, but he stood beyond XP range and didn't contest farm, so that's likely the best I can hope for) who really couldn't do jack vs Dark seer, but he couldn't really stop me either. Our mid was a Beastmaster who died to OD 2 or 3 times. Sure it's a hard lane, but if you go bottle first I expect some axe spam. Gets one point of axes and maxes aura.

They end up putting OD mid and trilaned the rest to shut down AM+Rubick. I repeatedly asked Tide to go help since AM was too behind to fight off ion shell bot and they needed help. Too busy single pulling a lane under our own tower. Eventually I went top instead and they were of course equal level to me because rubick can't understand that 2 stuns, a wall, lightning ball, and fatal bonds all at once will kill people.

Now normally I would qq over 2.5 supports and no wards or something like that, but the post-worthy-ness came from Rubick. He would go on mic and allchat the whole damn make sure we heard him laughing at odd times and never stopped whining about how our picks were so terrible.

So now the game's pretty much over, they have all t2 towers down and a massive lead. Then Rubick starts mocking me for going BKB first, insisting that I'm just a noob who blindly follows default items. Just to shut him up I popped BKB, ulted, got a 4 man stun and wiped them by myself before getting blocked against rax between the golems and punched to death. Extended the game by a good 6 minutes but that won me 2-3 of silence before he began whining over picks again. I swear he had his mic button bound to the pedal of 1998 NASCAR game because he never took his foot off the gas.

On July 22 2013 06:23 Talron wrote:

Thing is, that your average sc2 game is around 15-20 minutes. Browsing through it with 4* speed isn't much of a hassle, as you can quickly see the stuff the 2 players were doing right / wrong / coulda done better.
Your average DotA game is 30-45 minutes and you have to pay attention to not only yourself, but also to the other 9 guys. It's definetly an awesome way of improving, just like it is in sc2 but it cost more time.

On July 22 2013 15:44 734pot wrote:
Bloodstone ursa...