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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 18 2013 02:29 GMT
#12901
On July 18 2013 11:13 Sc1pio wrote:
I have literally lost all ability to play dota. http://dotabuff.com/players/45283616/matches

as far as i can see your main problem is you die a lot o.o
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
July 18 2013 03:22 GMT
#12902
On July 18 2013 11:29 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 11:13 Sc1pio wrote:
I have literally lost all ability to play dota. http://dotabuff.com/players/45283616/matches

as far as i can see your main problem is you die a lot o.o


Yeah I think that's my main issue, but I've been having trouble figuring out how to make that better. When I played BW/SC2 I would find the weakest point in my play and just focus solely on that for like ten games or something and ignore nearly everything else and then come out much stronger in that area overall, but for some reason that seems a lot harder to do in Dota.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
July 18 2013 03:57 GMT
#12903
On July 18 2013 12:22 Sc1pio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 11:29 icystorage wrote:
On July 18 2013 11:13 Sc1pio wrote:
I have literally lost all ability to play dota. http://dotabuff.com/players/45283616/matches

as far as i can see your main problem is you die a lot o.o


Yeah I think that's my main issue, but I've been having trouble figuring out how to make that better. When I played BW/SC2 I would find the weakest point in my play and just focus solely on that for like ten games or something and ignore nearly everything else and then come out much stronger in that area overall, but for some reason that seems a lot harder to do in Dota.


If that is the method you prefer to take, I would suggest playing the same hero, or at least the same role for consecutive games in order to focus on certain parts at a time. It will be less fun, but if you really want to improve and that is the methodology that works for you it should help.

Another thing that has really helped me in the past is watching pro player streams. If nothing else it can give you a fresh perspective on how some heroes can be played in a (hopefully) efficient way.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 18 2013 04:03 GMT
#12904
i used to die a lot too, but i practiced myself to play carry in pubs even though i play hard support in my team. it forces me to be really aware of the map and not die. because dying as carry has huge ramifications to the outcome of the game.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22260 Posts
July 18 2013 05:21 GMT
#12905
On July 18 2013 06:35 Comeh wrote:
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On July 18 2013 04:13 TheYango wrote:
On July 18 2013 02:52 Comeh wrote:
On July 18 2013 02:45 TheYango wrote:
Well jungle doom wasn't a thing yet, and with lane farm, naked Vanguard at 4:30 isn't that out there. Consider that since you start with the Stout, finishing Vanguard is like 550 gold more than Treads. 4:30 Treads in safe lane is pretty reasonable, and Vanguard is just a kill + Devour gold more than that.

If you need the regen for Doom in the jungle (I guess...I feel like his W should keep you well stocked, and a bottle for Jungle doom might make sense - even traquils would be okay for awhlie because you devour the biggest creep anyways, so the regen stays on, and vlads is very good on doom)...

Jungle Doom doesn't actually want to use Scorched Earth that often because it kills your mana.

Hence my justification for either tranquils or bottle being okay on him. (i'm actually a bit in love with the tranquils idea, might try it out).


Maybe, but tbh once you get the Ring of Health + stout shield you can jungle without worrying about dying to creeps and just use your mana for devour. This comes online way before your tranquil's would, and doesn't cost you mana. The bottle just seems like a waste of money because it's going to fall off very quick with little return IMO for a jungle Doom.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22260 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 05:28:14
July 18 2013 05:27 GMT
#12906
On July 18 2013 02:50 SXGCoil wrote:
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On July 18 2013 02:48 PassiveAce wrote:
On July 18 2013 01:08 SXGCoil wrote:
And you build vanguard on doom every game OOH SERVERD BURNED LELELEL

Thanks for proving this isn't much better than reddit.

He called you out in the kindest, most respectful way that you can. he wasnt even insulting you or making fun of you, just pointing out that in this instance, there is stuff you could have done better,

The post I didn't have the problem with. It was all the idiots afterwards yelling OOOH BURNED SERVED HUEHUEHUEE

They make fun of reddit for circlejerking but tl does it too.


Why'd you remove me from your friends list?
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
July 18 2013 07:00 GMT
#12907
This is a new one. Our mid player at one point types out (exact quote): "mmm"
A few seconds later I get ganked by I think it was a night stalker. I ask our mid where the missing call was. He said the missing call was this mysterious "mmm." Apparently it means Man Missing Mid. You learn and rage at something new every day.
._. \: |: /: .-. :\ :| :/ ._. They see me rolling...
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
July 18 2013 07:17 GMT
#12908
On July 18 2013 01:08 SXGCoil wrote:
And you build vanguard on doom every game OOH SERVERD BURNED LELELEL

Thanks for proving this isn't much better than reddit.

BURNED
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anycolourfloyd
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia524 Posts
July 18 2013 07:33 GMT
#12909
i abandoned the last game i played because i decided that copping the leave was preferable to staying in the game for another 20 minutes and dying repeatedly.

after losing the previous game from repeatedly getting 3 man ganked mid as sf while the sidelines farmed but subsequently failed to do much, that was it. not worth putting myself through more trauma.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 07:38:24
July 18 2013 07:37 GMT
#12910
On July 18 2013 14:21 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Maybe, but tbh once you get the Ring of Health + stout shield you can jungle without worrying about dying to creeps and just use your mana for devour. This comes online way before your tranquil's would, and doesn't cost you mana. The bottle just seems like a waste of money because it's going to fall off very quick with little return IMO for a jungle Doom.

Tranquil effective regen is actually much higher than RoH though, and the crucial bit is that Tranquils gives you a lot more MS AND armor, 2 stats you desperately need. An RoH Doom can pretty much only dead-farm jungle which just isn't very good in pubs because you need to help your team start winning early. Tranquils Doom can gank with a consumed Ursa, Centaur, or Troll, because with the MS advantage of Tranquil's over any boots other than Phase or Travels, you can set up the close range disables.

Bottle is not wasted on Doom because of how mana-gated the hero is, the Bottle is still good all the way into the midgame and pretty much every Rune other than Illusion is good for Doom.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22260 Posts
July 18 2013 08:47 GMT
#12911
I will typically go stout -> RoH -> either finish Vanguard or build Phase boots, then finish the other off -> Radiance -> into whatever like AC and Heart.

You feel stout -> Tranquil is the way to go?
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
deichkind
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden347 Posts
July 18 2013 09:34 GMT
#12912
razor/lion manages to feed a solo slark 6/0 in the first 10min of the game. that has to be some kind of record. ugh...why do i get teams like this )=
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
July 18 2013 10:37 GMT
#12913
good games so far in a day, no idiots

suddenly russian ta no trap
ck with casual pers
maelstrom basher bloodseeker

lol
the throws never bothered me anyway
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
July 18 2013 10:57 GMT
#12914
If you don't have the fucking time to play, DON'T FUCKING JOIN THE MATCH.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 12:53:36
July 18 2013 12:43 GMT
#12915
GOD DAMN WHY DO THESE PEOPLE EVEN EXIST?!

Game 1: http://i.imgur.com/4Gp3cx6.jpg

Single Draft, get Naga, doing pretty well even if Rubick refuses to stop contesting my last hits, should be able to win this if we can keep PL down and actually push, oh wait our Brew has bought 6 Stout Shields and has gone Woods. gg

Next game after that: http://i.imgur.com/XbsJFOY.jpg

Single Draft again, grab Bane to support a bot tri lane, team tells me to go mid vs Bloodseeker instead while they 2/1/2 it, fine - hardly ideal but I can do that and WR and Lion can be supports for Clinkz and Jugg respectively, shouldn't go too wrong should it? WRONG!!! HOW ABOUT 12 DEATHS BY 10 MINUTES FROM TOP AND BOTTOM WITH NO BLOODSEEKER GANKS WHILE I'M THE ONLY GUY WHO CAN GET A FUCKING KILL ON MY TEAM!!! OH AND AS A BONUS LION AND WR CAN'T EVEN BUY A WARD BETWEEN THEM.

FUCK. SAKE.

I think the moment I lost all faith in humanity is when I nightmared Abaddon, Windrunner proceeded to immediately power shot him then throw the Shackle as nightmare ended except it obviously didn't latch as she'd just fucking power shotted the trees.

I don't even have a comms ban but I can see how people get them. WHY DO THESE WANKERS EVEN PLAY.
@followMVT
BigAsia
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada451 Posts
July 18 2013 13:10 GMT
#12916
Nothing makes me rage more than the picking stages because a lot of games are won or lost there. Sure, sometimes you can have a chit picks but the players are much better (or their team just sucks) and still win, but its rare. My friend who has well over 1,000 + games finally rage quit and installed the game because of it yesterday. We will see how long that lasts lawl
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 14:34:45
July 18 2013 13:42 GMT
#12917
Apparently I lost so much (probably about 40 wins, 60 losses in my last 100 games) that I'm back in the "trench". Makes me cry. I literally had a guy who was auto attacking in lane last night. That's got to be. . .like. . .bottom 20% of players or something, if not worse. Not wishing to be a jerk or anything, but there is definitely a LOT more Cyrillic in chat now. . .

Guess I need to stop sucking and start winning or something. : /
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 14:53:47
July 18 2013 14:53 GMT
#12918
had someone yell at me for pushing down a tier 1 tower because "kills are more valuable"

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Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
734pot
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 14:55:53
July 18 2013 14:54 GMT
#12919
Had the worst void in my game today, THE WORST. He had about 30 minutes of free farm, and only had midas, treads and MoM. After this point he would never team fight with us, but go in solo for chronos and then die without even getting a kill. I was stacking ancients and he used chrono in an attempt to kill them. I'm not a really high level player but I don't understand why he was in my game, he was literally as bad as the carries in my first few games of dota.
convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
July 18 2013 15:15 GMT
#12920
On July 18 2013 22:42 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Apparently I lost so much (probably about 40 wins, 60 losses in my last 100 games) that I'm back in the "trench". Makes me cry. I literally had a guy who was auto attacking in lane last night. That's got to be. . .like. . .bottom 20% of players or something, if not worse. Not wishing to be a jerk or anything, but there is definitely a LOT more Cyrillic in chat now. . .

Guess I need to stop sucking and start winning or something. : /

There are things I can handle and things that I cry inside when they happen. If my ally misses every last hit, whatever maybe it's a new hero or he tried to get away with less stats, but it can happen. When my ally auto attacks, that's just not knowing how to play the game. I wish that the DOTA MMR system had a way to check if people auto attack creeps within the first few minutes of the game and immediately cut their MMR in half.
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