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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 26 2013 14:59 GMT
#11961
Lost game, a stomp. What the QQ is about is the ennemy team is killing 2 or 3 of us, they're all full life/mana, and never ever push a T3 when all T2 are down for more than 10 mins... It's really long and ugly. It's the first time I want the condede button. And they had fat heroes, late game line up and all, so no risk of comeback, all their T1 but one are up...
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
June 26 2013 15:26 GMT
#11962
I will never understand why bad players like bloodseeker so much. Every time I have a bs on my team i just brace for the incoming loss
Religion: Buckethead
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 26 2013 15:42 GMT
#11963
My last 20 games: 4 wins 16 losses.
No matter which role i play. every single other player completely fails and we lose to one or two overfarmed enemies going beyond godlike with 20minutes.
mistercrabb
Profile Joined June 2013
8 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 16:00:37
June 26 2013 16:00 GMT
#11964
On June 27 2013 00:26 Incze wrote:
I will never understand why bad players like bloodseeker so much. Every time I have a bs on my team i just brace for the incoming loss


I think new players find he pubstomps at low levels due to nobody else understanding rupture, and then they play him until they reach a higher level MMR where the other players know to stand still and group up, effectively turning his ult into a long stun.
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
June 26 2013 16:02 GMT
#11965
On June 27 2013 00:26 Incze wrote:
I will never understand why bad players like bloodseeker so much. Every time I have a bs on my team i just brace for the incoming loss


Baddies tend to play pubstompers when they get stomped by one and think they can do the same with the hero. I'm gonna pick this imba hero and stomp this game for sure! I'll show them all!.. is probably their line of thought
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
June 26 2013 16:17 GMT
#11966
gg just got pl'd.

ALL SKILL, BABY. ALL SKILL.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 16:21:27
June 26 2013 16:18 GMT
#11967
On June 26 2013 22:03 lazyitachi wrote:
Quotidian is not the brightest light bulb, the sharpest knife, so to say :3

Not sure why he is bitching about Dota specific mechanics that badly when there is a game called League of Lesbians that does not have any of those things he deem makes the game antifun and toxic.



it's a dota QQ thread.. wtf are you doing in it if you're not bitching?

--and the people saying that every ulti goes through bkb in some way or another, check the wiki.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 26 2013 16:24 GMT
#11968
On June 27 2013 00:26 Incze wrote:
I will never understand why bad players like bloodseeker so much. Every time I have a bs on my team i just brace for the incoming loss

They call him noob seeker for a reason. He makes it so you die if you move and then runs at you to punch you in the face.

He has a place in some line ups and is great in random draft, but scubby kids do like to play him a lot.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
June 26 2013 16:33 GMT
#11969
On June 27 2013 01:18 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 22:03 lazyitachi wrote:
Quotidian is not the brightest light bulb, the sharpest knife, so to say :3

Not sure why he is bitching about Dota specific mechanics that badly when there is a game called League of Lesbians that does not have any of those things he deem makes the game antifun and toxic.



it's a dota QQ thread.. wtf are you doing in it if you're not bitching?

--and the people saying that every ulti goes through bkb in some way or another, check the wiki.


You mean liquipedia?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Black_King_Bar

"Rule of thumb: Damage (unless its physical or mixed) is completely blocked by Avatar. Disables from ultimates usually go through Avatar."

Which is exactly in line with what everyone has been saying.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 16:52:52
June 26 2013 16:52 GMT
#11970
On June 27 2013 01:33 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 01:18 Quotidian wrote:
On June 26 2013 22:03 lazyitachi wrote:
Quotidian is not the brightest light bulb, the sharpest knife, so to say :3

Not sure why he is bitching about Dota specific mechanics that badly when there is a game called League of Lesbians that does not have any of those things he deem makes the game antifun and toxic.



it's a dota QQ thread.. wtf are you doing in it if you're not bitching?

--and the people saying that every ulti goes through bkb in some way or another, check the wiki.


You mean liquipedia?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Black_King_Bar

"Rule of thumb: Damage (unless its physical or mixed) is completely blocked by Avatar. Disables from ultimates usually go through Avatar."

Which is exactly in line with what everyone has been saying.


turns out the liquipedia article is very incomplete, but yeah... still doesn't change the fact that certain heroes are completely negated by bkb (Jakiro for instance)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 26 2013 17:07 GMT
#11971
On June 27 2013 01:52 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 01:33 Excludos wrote:
On June 27 2013 01:18 Quotidian wrote:
On June 26 2013 22:03 lazyitachi wrote:
Quotidian is not the brightest light bulb, the sharpest knife, so to say :3

Not sure why he is bitching about Dota specific mechanics that badly when there is a game called League of Lesbians that does not have any of those things he deem makes the game antifun and toxic.



it's a dota QQ thread.. wtf are you doing in it if you're not bitching?

--and the people saying that every ulti goes through bkb in some way or another, check the wiki.


You mean liquipedia?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Black_King_Bar

"Rule of thumb: Damage (unless its physical or mixed) is completely blocked by Avatar. Disables from ultimates usually go through Avatar."

Which is exactly in line with what everyone has been saying.


turns out the liquipedia article is very incomplete, but yeah... still doesn't change the fact that certain heroes are completely negated by bkb (Jakiro for instance)

Which prevents Jakiro from negating entire heroes just by being in the game. And Jakiro only become useless when the BKB is first bought and it is limited to that specific hero that purchased it. As the game goes on, Jakiro comes more useful as the effect of BKB's fades.

Its almost like the game is made so specific heroes have timings when they are most useful.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
June 26 2013 17:13 GMT
#11972
Dont understand why the dunce is complaining about a game mechanic when the obviousness is so obvious.
If you have no understanding of dota mechanics perhaps try to brush up on Playdota?

Most of the QQ here are about bad plays anyways not about how you think LoL like mechanics are your cup of tea.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
June 26 2013 17:22 GMT
#11973
The general rule for BKB is that ulti stuns go through, but damage doesn't, except for when it does.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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skirmisheR
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden451 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 17:25:05
June 26 2013 17:24 GMT
#11974
On June 27 2013 01:24 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 00:26 Incze wrote:
I will never understand why bad players like bloodseeker so much. Every time I have a bs on my team i just brace for the incoming loss

They call him noob seeker for a reason. He makes it so you die if you move and then runs at you to punch you in the face.

He has a place in some line ups and is great in random draft, but scubby kids do like to play him a lot.

pubseeker

I have to say he's not a very useful hero though, people who play bs is not necessarily THAT bad but is unable to kill people because he is a one-trick-pony

Also why can i not watch D2L on anything higher than 240p without it being laggy, im sitting on 100/100 internet, strong comp and 1080p monitor and i get shit picture lol :S
I can jungle Pudge, can you?
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 17:27:53
June 26 2013 17:26 GMT
#11975
And then there are those pesky regular skills that still go through BKB and disables from AoE ults don't really have an easy rule to follow if you don't go deep into the mechanics of each skill. BKB rules are definatelly odd if you are not used to the game. Mechanics in Dota are just weird. It's fun but it's really not surprising to see people complaining about it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#11976
On June 27 2013 02:26 SKC wrote:
And then there are those pesky regular skills that still go through BKB and disables from AoE ults don't really have an easy rule to follow if you don't go deep into the mechanics of each skill.

They just need icons over the skill when you click on your opponent. The BKB if it blocks the skill and X over the BKB if it doesn't. Done. Then you can just look at the abilities and know.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 17:43:29
June 26 2013 17:42 GMT
#11977
On June 27 2013 01:52 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 01:33 Excludos wrote:
On June 27 2013 01:18 Quotidian wrote:
On June 26 2013 22:03 lazyitachi wrote:
Quotidian is not the brightest light bulb, the sharpest knife, so to say :3

Not sure why he is bitching about Dota specific mechanics that badly when there is a game called League of Lesbians that does not have any of those things he deem makes the game antifun and toxic.



it's a dota QQ thread.. wtf are you doing in it if you're not bitching?

--and the people saying that every ulti goes through bkb in some way or another, check the wiki.


You mean liquipedia?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Black_King_Bar

"Rule of thumb: Damage (unless its physical or mixed) is completely blocked by Avatar. Disables from ultimates usually go through Avatar."

Which is exactly in line with what everyone has been saying.


turns out the liquipedia article is very incomplete, but yeah... still doesn't change the fact that certain heroes are completely negated by bkb (Jakiro for instance)


He said in some way or another. To be more precise its "the secondary effect" but not the damage. One exception is disruptors cloud which doesnt silence and nagas song, but most other SECONDARY ultimate effects that is not damage go through bkb, with prominent examples being magnus, enigma, void, silencer, treant ult(though you can bkb out of it).
Hell even lichs ulti still does its ministun on the cast target through bkb, it just doesnt do any damage.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
June 26 2013 18:43 GMT
#11978
Random draft, I pick TA and somehow manage to lose mid vs a puck who goes bottle first straight into boots, and barely hits a single lasthit. He gets a hasterune at 2 min right as my courier arrives, so he snipes that of course, (it came late because ogre magi thought it would be a good idea to use it to bring wards), and then proceeds to get every single fucking rune for the first 12 minutes of the game, and bags a kill with silence 0.1 seconds before I use another refraction.

Nearly fell off the chair raging at myself. We won the game, but it certainly wasn't because of me.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
June 26 2013 18:53 GMT
#11979
On June 27 2013 00:42 Warri wrote:
My last 20 games: 4 wins 16 losses.
No matter which role i play. every single other player completely fails and we lose to one or two overfarmed enemies going beyond godlike with 20minutes.


do what i do in my AP games, insta pick prophet and go do whatever you can. That hero has the highest single skill impact in the game. A good prophet can win games and cause hell for the other teams and it doesn't require you to work with people who can fuck your day up. Just have map awareness and Tp in when they gank and grab the kills you can. Work for a quiick sheep and deso and blow up supports into a necro book so you can own towers.(this is after shadow blade)

No Artosis, you are robin
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
June 26 2013 19:27 GMT
#11980
On June 27 2013 02:07 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 01:52 Quotidian wrote:
On June 27 2013 01:33 Excludos wrote:
On June 27 2013 01:18 Quotidian wrote:
On June 26 2013 22:03 lazyitachi wrote:
Quotidian is not the brightest light bulb, the sharpest knife, so to say :3

Not sure why he is bitching about Dota specific mechanics that badly when there is a game called League of Lesbians that does not have any of those things he deem makes the game antifun and toxic.



it's a dota QQ thread.. wtf are you doing in it if you're not bitching?

--and the people saying that every ulti goes through bkb in some way or another, check the wiki.


You mean liquipedia?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Black_King_Bar

"Rule of thumb: Damage (unless its physical or mixed) is completely blocked by Avatar. Disables from ultimates usually go through Avatar."

Which is exactly in line with what everyone has been saying.


turns out the liquipedia article is very incomplete, but yeah... still doesn't change the fact that certain heroes are completely negated by bkb (Jakiro for instance)

Which prevents Jakiro from negating entire heroes just by being in the game. And Jakiro only become useless when the BKB is first bought and it is limited to that specific hero that purchased it. As the game goes on, Jakiro comes more useful as the effect of BKB's fades.

Its almost like the game is made so specific heroes have timings when they are most useful.


all of Jakiro's spells are very dodgeable, he's slow and he has reasonable cooldowns. He's not the kind of hero you'd bring up in the context of "negating entire heroes just by being in the game." Not saying there aren't heroes like that in the game, but in those cases you'd fix the hero itself

On June 27 2013 02:13 lazyitachi wrote:
Dont understand why the dunce is complaining about a game mechanic when the obviousness is so obvious.
If you have no understanding of dota mechanics perhaps try to brush up on Playdota?

Most of the QQ here are about bad plays anyways not about how you think LoL like mechanics are your cup of tea.


what's with the name-calling, buddy? Is this personal for you or something? I can re-iterate what Blitz said about BKB on his stream, but maybe he should be playing LOL too, right? He was playing storm spirit, like he always does.. he started having some minor troubles. Then he said "guess I just buy a BKB and win, guys." he then proceeded to stomp face while talking about how he no longer needed to worry about positioning and that BKB was a "dumb/boring item" and so on. So he wasn't even talking from a position of frustration, like I was because in my game..

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