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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 26 2013 00:16 GMT
#11921
On June 26 2013 04:40 hooahah wrote:
http://dotabuff.com/players/54718133/matches

pick hero with highest winrate - lose
pick hero with lowest winrate - lose harder
pick support - lose
pick carry - lose

[image loading]

also I lost as a Troll vs a Skeleton King 1vs1 even though I had more farm

HOW DO I BASH

see this is the infuriating part of dota compared to SC2 - when I lose in SC2, when I gg, I know that it's 100% my fault that I lost, and I can improve with that. The same cannot be said for Dota 2. When I lose, sure it might be...20% my fault, 2% my fault or 80% my fault - but I can never say "if only I had done that", "if only I had gotten that last hit", "if only I had hit that sunstrike"

I guess I should stop looking at wins/losses and just look at how I did as an induvidual, rather than judge myself based on my team's win/loss


I think it was kupo who said that first in the early pages of this thread rofl and it turns out to be the right attitude to play dota2 MM (dota2 mm back when there was less than 4k players involved was awesome, caring about win/lose was reasonable in that kind of environment).

The thing is that you need to play many different heroes and play many games with or against X hero to be able to tell 'what could have I done better', so it takes time, that means you will need to go through so much frustrations to get there. Just enjoy the game and QQ from time to time here xD I used to QQ alot more.

But ofc you can use some thinking like 'what if there was a vision there, it would have been game changing' when you play support or 'what if i could get my items at X timing, the team would have won when you play carry to improve your personal performance.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
TheGenreIsARTS
Profile Joined June 2013
Barbados32 Posts
June 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#11922
my team dont speak english. gg
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
June 26 2013 02:42 GMT
#11923
CK reality rift into grouped up enemy team THEN phantasm .....
Put quote here for readability
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
June 26 2013 05:18 GMT
#11924
ok sidelane invoker pick is bad but not horrible i guess followed by a "support" zeus pick, no wards, 35 min mana boots, ogre club, null talisman, void stone. WHAT ARE YOU BUILDING
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 05:55:30
June 26 2013 05:54 GMT
#11925
noobs criticizing me and my builds is one of the most irritating thing ive experience this game. im fine with constructive and useful critisism but sometimes only response i can conjure up to some of their comments is a face palm.

some examples:

- wtf are you getting mek on viper/magnus/doom (+ other heros where mek is not an obvious item)
- noob kunkka couldn't outcarry void (past 50minute game)
- armlet on morhpling? lol?
- shadow blade on bh(prenerf)/slark?
TheGenreIsARTS
Profile Joined June 2013
Barbados32 Posts
June 26 2013 07:05 GMT
#11926
On June 26 2013 14:54 Tsutchie wrote:
noobs criticizing me and my builds is one of the most irritating thing ive experience this game. im fine with constructive and useful critisism but sometimes only response i can conjure up to some of their comments is a face palm.

some examples:

- wtf are you getting mek on viper/magnus/doom (+ other heros where mek is not an obvious item)
- noob kunkka couldn't outcarry void (past 50minute game)
- armlet on morhpling? lol?
- shadow blade on bh(prenerf)/slark?


armlet on morph is pretty shit tho. rest are fine.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
June 26 2013 07:33 GMT
#11927
Armlet on Morph is only good if you're Korok-level of bullshit, in which case you're still better off just going the regular builds
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 07:37:03
June 26 2013 07:36 GMT
#11928
I'm not really convinced by lothars BH. Slark sure, his ult has a long cd and he's hardly sneaky under the massive cloud of here-I-am, but it really doesn't seem worth 3000 gold on BH when they'll have detection up the yin-yang already.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
June 26 2013 07:45 GMT
#11929
On June 26 2013 16:36 Belisarius wrote:
I'm not really convinced by lothars BH. Slark sure, his ult has a long cd and he's hardly sneaky under the massive cloud of here-I-am, but it really doesn't seem worth 3000 gold on BH when they'll have detection up the yin-yang already.


It used to be very good prenerf but its been discussed to death in GD and strategy so feel free to search it up
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
June 26 2013 07:50 GMT
#11930
On June 26 2013 16:36 Belisarius wrote:
I'm not really convinced by lothars BH. Slark sure, his ult has a long cd and he's hardly sneaky under the massive cloud of here-I-am, but it really doesn't seem worth 3000 gold on BH when they'll have detection up the yin-yang already.


it was good for it's damage, not for the invis (though that was good too in case of being silenced)
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 07:54:10
June 26 2013 07:52 GMT
#11931
I don't know guys. I keep telling myself that if I keep queueing eventually I'll be placed in a higher MMR. I just recently started queueing into "high" skill level games. People still never buy the courier, don't ward, they make idiotic picks in random draft. they go battlefury on BH, they never support as venomancer. they keep doing these dumb things. How can a person go 1200 games and not learn that camps are based on a spawn box and not vision? I feel like I learned more than the first 50 games than these guys did in their first 500. Most guys I end up friending from pubs turn out to be just complete trash that happened to have a good game playing Bloodseeker. When I spectate the games that Bulldog or Fear queue into, people actually support and make good item choices. Then I look and they have 1100 wins and I'd have to spend so much time with the morons before getting to that point.

At a 169-133 record and 55.96% win rate. I'll keep trucking along in hopes it gets better.

*clutches legs in corner*
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 08:18:58
June 26 2013 08:14 GMT
#11932
On June 26 2013 16:36 Belisarius wrote:
I'm not really convinced by lothars BH. Slark sure, his ult has a long cd and he's hardly sneaky under the massive cloud of here-I-am, but it really doesn't seem worth 3000 gold on BH when they'll have detection up the yin-yang already.


the backstab from the lothars active used to stack with the jinada crit.
BH could burst down most heroes in two jinada instances - one out of the WW and one from the lothars active.
3k item did the same dmg as a 4k deso lol

shame it got ''fixed''
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
June 26 2013 08:34 GMT
#11933
bet it wouldn't have been fixed if it was a Treant 'bug'
lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
June 26 2013 08:46 GMT
#11934
On June 26 2013 16:52 SXGCoil wrote:
I don't know guys. I keep telling myself that if I keep queueing eventually I'll be placed in a higher MMR. I just recently started queueing into "high" skill level games. People still never buy the courier, don't ward, they make idiotic picks in random draft. they go battlefury on BH, they never support as venomancer. they keep doing these dumb things. How can a person go 1200 games and not learn that camps are based on a spawn box and not vision? I feel like I learned more than the first 50 games than these guys did in their first 500. Most guys I end up friending from pubs turn out to be just complete trash that happened to have a good game playing Bloodseeker. When I spectate the games that Bulldog or Fear queue into, people actually support and make good item choices. Then I look and they have 1100 wins and I'd have to spend so much time with the morons before getting to that point.

At a 169-133 record and 55.96% win rate. I'll keep trucking along in hopes it gets better.

*clutches legs in corner*


People dont buy courier nor ward in Very High mmr sometimes too.
Nub stacks still feed, people do make stupid item choices nor understand dota well.
Meh. But V high/ high mechanics and coordination do improve much more comparatively to normal tho.


I think those Tryhard top 0.1% games however are usually MUCH more coordinated stacks tho.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
June 26 2013 08:58 GMT
#11935
I can't remember the last time i played a pub game and no courier was bought (more often, other bone-headed mistakes happen like the two-couriers-purchased problem, or someone upgrading the courier to a flying courier at game start instead of getting wards) and i'm in normal mmr most of the time

I guess my server is just more ballerer
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Korrawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania31 Posts
June 26 2013 09:24 GMT
#11936
On June 26 2013 04:04 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 03:16 beesinyoface wrote:
I don't think I've played a game this week where the majority of my team has spoken English. All I get is a million pings around the map going off every second.

Also doesn't help that half of my games end up with someone leaving within the first 10 minutes.

the mute system is so bad. you cant communicate at all in a team game because 2 or 3 guys are always muted
Well played!
Well played!
Well played!

I got muted for no reason, <.< QQ. I am not BM, I don't yell or swear at teammates, usually just report or just ignore.
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
June 26 2013 09:25 GMT
#11937
On June 26 2013 17:58 Blazinghand wrote:
I can't remember the last time i played a pub game and no courier was bought (more often, other bone-headed mistakes happen like the two-couriers-purchased problem, or someone upgrading the courier to a flying courier at game start instead of getting wards) and i'm in normal mmr most of the time

I guess my server is just more ballerer


I always random so that I can buy courier every game, gotta show off my cluckle
Put quote here for readability
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
June 26 2013 09:26 GMT
#11938
On June 26 2013 17:58 Blazinghand wrote:
I can't remember the last time i played a pub game and no courier was bought (more often, other bone-headed mistakes happen like the two-couriers-purchased problem, or someone upgrading the courier to a flying courier at game start instead of getting wards) and i'm in normal mmr most of the time

I guess my server is just more ballerer

Had a game in high where nobody bought it yesterday.

Needless to say, I did not win mid.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
June 26 2013 09:26 GMT
#11939
I actually was granted extra report by gains valve. I shall use them to strike fish my enemies with the duty of a thousands mutes
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 09:38:42
June 26 2013 09:38 GMT
#11940
BKB is such a dumb fucking item, and it really should not be in a game like this. The fact that you can buy an item that completely negates a significant portion of the hero pool is just awful game design. And then there's the fact that the conditions of the item itself is confusing too. And Blitz Dota agrees with me, so there
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