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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
welcome to high MM ladies and gentleman where skilled players with >1000 games lose to a fucking SNY FORCESTAFF pub seeker did i also mention the enemy had a very underfarmed void that was AFK farming for half of the game and a jungling Naix that was AFK jungling as well? thats right we pretty much lost 5v2 | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On May 14 2013 13:39 SKYFISH_ wrote: from a 0-3 ( or mb 0-4) mid pubseeker to 26-6 carrying the game, reaching lvl 25 in no time welcome to high MM ladies and gentleman where skilled players with >1000 games lose to a fucking SNY FORCESTAFF pub seeker did i also mention the enemy had a very underfarmed void that was AFK farming for half of the game and a jungling Naix that was AFK jungling as well? thats right we pretty much lost 5v2 Ahh forcestaff bloodseeker. You should blame valve for that, I think it's in one of the wiki tips on how to play bloodseeker. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
because going Radiance is really, really dumb | ||
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SKYFISH_
Bulgaria990 Posts
next game is just as shitty as the previous i dont know why i even play dota anymore, this is starting to be more stress than fun. enemy team randoms bat, skywrath and LD im like ''well this game is lost it seems" so i random too (first or second pick) - broodmother RUH ROH ITS A BROODMOTHER GUYS NVM THE FACT WE ALREADY HAVE AOE FOR THE SPIDERLINGS, GOTTA GET SOME DETECTION AS WELL bam, BH pick  mmmkay homos should've picked nyx and kicked your asses but whatever oh, and a the doombringer on our team gets vanguard into radi, says we got this because radi=sick aoe and urges the rest of the team to support him better. | ||
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kuruptt
Canada168 Posts
On May 14 2013 13:36 Blazinghand wrote: I suspect stats are intentionally hidden to prevent "farming" of stats (ie buying like 20 sentries and placing them all right at the end, stealing lasthits on kills of heroes and so on) that happened in HoN. Lol? Sentries doesn't even count as a ward in HON first of all. Kill stealing is HARDLY a problem if at all. There was nothing wrong with the stat system in HON. It works perfectly. People that go for high kdr like kill stealing almost ALWAYS had lower mmr. If you are good and you kill steal and win games to get your MMR higher, i don't see anything wrong with that. I know valve are hiding stats so the casuals won't get offended when they see that they have a .5 kdr | ||
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Vod.kaholic
United States1052 Posts
On May 14 2013 13:33 kuruptt wrote: So like, when is dota 2 ever going to implement some sort of STATS so we can see who is bad or not? I am in the VERY high tier level and i STILL get bad players that have absolutely NO idea how to play this game. How are we supposed to weed out the bad players? i'm not going to let a person take over mid or CHOOSE a carry and fail to farm and carry the game. This is the ONLY reason why dota 2 is bad right now, the solo que/matchmaking system is fucking horrible. At least in HON they show stats so we know who should be carrying, going to mid, and supporting. This way everyone respects each other roles. Ok to be fair, a lot of what stats and public PSR did in HoN was feed everybody's e-peen and elitism. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On May 14 2013 14:27 kuruptt wrote: Lol? Sentries doesn't even count as a ward in HON first of all. Kill stealing is HARDLY a problem if at all. There was nothing wrong with the stat system in HON. It works perfectly. People that go for high kdr like kill stealing almost ALWAYS had lower mmr. If you are good and you kill steal and win games to get your MMR higher, i don't see anything wrong with that. I know valve are hiding stats so the casuals won't get offended when they see that they have a .5 kdr I'm not saying I did this, but I had a "friend" who might have occasionally joined pub games as Zeus and stole every kill he could, and he was pretty high mmr. He'd even do this when queuing for solo matchmaking, but not every game, just a few. Zeus also racks up a lot of assists, as it were. All you have to do is take zero risks andd steal every kill | ||
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run.at.me
Australia550 Posts
If you are under levelled and duel laning, forget it - it's effectiveness lies in being level 11/16 before the supports have any HP items; Making rupture + staff an almost guaranteed kill and a shitload of fun | ||
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kuruptt
Canada168 Posts
On May 14 2013 14:54 Blazinghand wrote: I'm not saying I did this, but I had a "friend" who might have occasionally joined pub games as Zeus and stole every kill he could, and he was pretty high mmr. He'd even do this when queuing for solo matchmaking, but not every game, just a few. Zeus also racks up a lot of assists, as it were. All you have to do is take zero risks andd steal every kill Well you said your friend is higher mmr, so this isn't a problem at all because he is winning games. I don't see any problem. They really do need some sort of stat that we can look at and KNOW instantly which role everyone should be playing. I mean who would want that .5 kdr player going mid? He's going to get stomped because either he sucks or because hes a support player. Only thing holding Dota 2 to the max potential. I have a lot of friends that also won't play dota 2 because simply there is no stats. There is no reason to win the game because the only reward you get is battle points and MAYBE a chance at dropping an item, which is the only reason why I play. | ||
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majava
Finland248 Posts
On May 14 2013 13:33 kuruptt wrote: So like, when is dota 2 ever going to implement some sort of STATS so we can see who is bad or not? I am in the VERY high tier level and i STILL get bad players that have absolutely NO idea how to play this game. How are we supposed to weed out the bad players? i'm not going to let a person take over mid or CHOOSE a carry and fail to farm and carry the game. This is the ONLY reason why dota 2 is bad right now, the solo que/matchmaking system is fucking horrible. At least in HON they show stats so we know who should be carrying, going to mid, and supporting. This way everyone respects each other roles. What makes you think you are entitled to decide who plays what? | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
everytime i play i just become depressed | ||
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On May 14 2013 15:15 majava wrote: What makes you think you are entitled to decide who plays what? Agreed. I don't want to be forced into a single role for all my games just because that's where I have the best stats. Especially in a game such as dota where roles often overlap and ability to play certain heroes are more important than the roles some of them might belong to. | ||
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kuruptt
Canada168 Posts
On May 14 2013 15:15 majava wrote: What makes you think you are entitled to decide who plays what? It's not, but if you have around .5 kdr then for sure I will not let you ruin my game by feeding mid. If you want to lose then that's fine, but don't expect your teammates to play to its full potential. I don't even care about KDR or whatnot but valve really should implement some sort of MMR instead of hiding it. It does nothing for the game. At least I know I will be playing with people of my caliber. | ||
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
Tried to login server. Fail fail fail and moar fail. When i manage to get in the game we were losing 4-16. Pudge disbanded. And im on LPQ. Seriously Valve... Seriously.. | ||
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Myrddraal
Australia937 Posts
On May 14 2013 14:29 Vod.kaholic wrote: Ok to be fair, a lot of what stats and public PSR did in HoN was feed everybody's e-peen and elitism. Yeah I have heard this a lot, yet I would really like to know approximately where I stand, maybe if they had at least a few more brackets, though I do understand why they avoid branding people as low. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On May 14 2013 15:56 kuruptt wrote: It's not, but if you have around .5 kdr then for sure I will not let you ruin my game by feeding mid. If you want to lose then that's fine, but don't expect your teammates to play to its full potential. I don't even care about KDR or whatnot but valve really should implement some sort of MMR instead of hiding it. It does nothing for the game. At least I know I will be playing with people of my caliber. you are playing with people of your caliber. If you don't believe that , I don't see how having a "27" or a "gold" or a "super mega triple star plus" next to everyone's name is going to convince you of that. You are just looking for justification to be an ass to people because they are only super mega double star plus. | ||
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majava
Finland248 Posts
On May 14 2013 15:56 kuruptt wrote: It's not, but if you have around .5 kdr then for sure I will not let you ruin my game by feeding mid. If you want to lose then that's fine, but don't expect your teammates to play to its full potential. I don't even care about KDR or whatnot but valve really should implement some sort of MMR instead of hiding it. It does nothing for the game. At least I know I will be playing with people of my caliber. How you think anyone will improve playing mid, if they are never allowed to play mid? | ||
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majava
Finland248 Posts
On May 14 2013 16:19 majava wrote: How you think anyone will improve playing mid, if they are never allowed to play mid? Also you are playing with people of your caliber. 20% of your games you are the best player on your team. 20% of time you are the worst. EDIT: Apparently I quoted instead of edit the first time. sorry | ||
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
On May 14 2013 15:56 kuruptt wrote: It's not, but if you have around .5 kdr then for sure I will not let you ruin my game by feeding mid. If you want to lose then that's fine, but don't expect your teammates to play to its full potential. I don't even care about KDR or whatnot but valve really should implement some sort of MMR instead of hiding it. It does nothing for the game. At least I know I will be playing with people of my caliber. You don't care about KDR, but if it's bad you won't let people play certain positions? | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
On May 14 2013 16:48 Appendix wrote: You don't care about KDR, but if it's bad you won't let people play certain positions? If anything this guy is the perfect example of why we shouldn't have publicly available stats. | ||
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