EPTDota 2 QQ thread - Page 507
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Tsutchie
Australia951 Posts
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run.at.me
Australia550 Posts
On May 13 2013 05:16 Jetaap wrote: I'm so fucking tired of playing against warlock. This hero is so broken in pubs it's not even funny. Ult and fatal bond means that you'll win every teamfight, the only way to win against him is to split push and never fight but that's impossible to do in pubs. And he is not even interesting to play in the slighest, so I don't even enjoy winning games with him. Seriously, any idea on how to "counter" him in pubs? I just hate everything about this hero. You know using diffusal blade on warlocks golem will instantly kill it? So if he throws his ulti down just have an agi hero who hopefully has a diffusal cast it on the golem and bam 150 gold instantly | ||
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Tsutchie
Australia951 Posts
On May 13 2013 11:47 run.at.me wrote: You know using diffusal blade on warlocks golem will instantly kill it? So if he throws his ulti down just have an agi hero who hopefully has a diffusal cast it on the golem and bam 150 gold instantly shadow demon can do the same, i wonder if medusa can do that as well? he's easy as hell to gank too but for laning i have no idea how to beat a good warlock. that fatal bond just wins lanes. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On May 13 2013 12:09 Tsutchie wrote: shadow demon can do the same, i wonder if medusa can do that as well? he's easy as hell to gank too but for laning i have no idea how to beat a good warlock. that fatal bond just wins lanes. Even if you purge the golem, you still have the large-aoe stun and the fatal bonds to deal with. He's not broken, for sure, but he is a very good pubstomper that's hard to deal with yourself. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
Surprisingly enough, their Invoker was trash and we end up winning. So we were pushing like mad until they decided to camp their Tier 3 (base) towers. That Broodmother + Inovker + Lina + Sniper + Brewmaster lineup just didn't let us in. So we decided to push multiple tier 3 towers all at the same time to have them running around, I had one good swap but my teammates didn't take advantage and let my death be in vain. I got another good swap but they came in at the wrong order. So I decided fuckit and I placed a ward at the very edge of their tower sight so spidey can die and I can get the tower for myself. While my team was busy raping the other team, I was taking down the tower - it's always a good idea to take down the tower when you hit like a wet tissue. I got the tower, TP-ed to our Tier 1 mid tower and placed sentries and obs in the nest cuz broodmother can go die. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On May 13 2013 12:15 Belisarius wrote: Even if you purge the golem, you still have the large-aoe stun and the fatal bonds to deal with. He's not broken, for sure, but he is a very good pubstomper that's hard to deal with yourself. Yeah,Warlock with refresher and aghanims :/ Was totally destroying the other team as void in team fights,,but in the last fight manage to catch everyone but warlock in my chrono, boom, rerfresh boom arrrrgh! Managed to kill 2 of their heroes and bring another one to 1/4 health, but the rest of the team just folded so easily to the 4 golems . | ||
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BoxingKangaroo
Japan955 Posts
Thank god Warlock isn't picked that often in pubs. Pure pubstomper. After laning against one the other day, I feel kinda bad for picking him so often myself. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
Solo queue after a 10 minute wait. Team sets up pretty well, solo offlane, tinker mid, I'm jungle ls. 0-game account lastpicks bloodseeker. Other team goes "gl hf", bs starts playing music through his mic nonstop and says "don't worry, this game is already over" Follows me into jungle, takes lasthits and halves my xp. I stupidly forget to disable help, and so he bloodrages me to cancel a salve and actually kills me with it. I didn't even know you could do that. I give up and shift to a lane after turning off help. He sticks around for a while bloodraging everything else, and then wanders off to feed. At this point the other lanes are spending so much time typing "report bs" that they start to lose cs and/or die. Other team works out what's going on and starts 5-manning to end, which I'm perfectly glad of. BS starts feeding cour, also feeds himself a few times, but not as much as I'd expect. When I finally farm up drums he takes the cour and drops my item in the middle of their 5-man push, leaving me with phase,quelling,stout at 15:00. BS continues feeding couriers, gems and himself, continues bloodraging anyone who hasn't turned off help, just generally being a total ass. Wastes 45 minutes of my life if you include queue time. I don't even know what to do. Reporting doesn't even seem helpful, since it was a 1-game account and he'll just make another. Also I only have 2 reports, ty Valve. Can I report the match id to Valve customer support and get him IP banned or something? This is a million times worse from solo queue, because with a 10-minute wait he'll be in every other game I play today. | ||
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khanofmongols
542 Posts
Start off and my captain starts by picking Invoker...sigh. I request a dark seer and really want to play dark seer since people don't seem to know how to deal with ion shell. Captain pick dark seer. Then he follows up with a clinkz, naga and sven... So now we have 5 heroes who usually get farm. Someone else takes my dark seer so I decide to play a support sven. We don't know how to lane it. Clinkz wants mid dark seer goes safelane for some reason. Invoker doesn't want mid, Naga goes offlane. End with clinkz mid dark seer offlane and naga, sven and invoker bottom. Dark seer goes and gives first blood against their trilane, then abandon's the lane but doesn't jungle for a bit. Sigh... | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On May 13 2013 12:57 Belisarius wrote: Wow. I just ended up with the worst griefer I've ever come across. Solo queue after a 10 minute wait. Team sets up pretty well, solo offlane, tinker mid, I'm jungle ls. 0-game account lastpicks bloodseeker. Other team goes "gl hf", bs starts playing music through his mic nonstop and says "don't worry, this game is already over" Follows me into jungle, takes lasthits and halves my xp. I stupidly forget to disable help, and so he bloodrages me to cancel a salve and actually kills me with it. I didn't even know you could do that. I give up and shift to a lane after turning off help. He sticks around for a while bloodraging everything else, and then wanders off to feed. At this point the other lanes are spending so much time typing "report bs" that they start to lose cs and/or die. Other team works out what's going on and starts 5-manning to end, which I'm perfectly glad of. BS starts feeding cour, also feeds himself a few times, but not as much as I'd expect. When I finally farm up drums he takes the cour and drops my item in the middle of their 5-man push, leaving me with phase,quelling,stout at 15:00. BS continues feeding couriers, gems and himself, continues bloodraging anyone who hasn't turned off help, just generally being a total ass. Wastes 45 minutes of my life if you include queue time. I don't even know what to do. Reporting doesn't even seem helpful, since it was a 1-game account and he'll just make another. Also I only have 2 reports, ty Valve. Can I report the match id to Valve customer support and get him IP banned or something? This is a million times worse from solo queue, because with a 10-minute wait he'll be in every other game I play today. And my next game I get a lina who goes to the longlane and leaves our carry solo because "I need to be near shop". Takes lasthits from my supposed-to-be-solo-off puck, and builds 5x mantle into boots into arcanes into perseverence. Never wards, doesn't buy courier, ends up with a reasonable kda thanks to Laguna poaching. Team also had a 0-8 lifestealer, which I didn't even know was possible. Thankfully we win because our alc was good enough to carry despite all this, but.... seriously, MM? | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
On May 13 2013 12:26 dartoo wrote: Yeah,Warlock with refresher and aghanims :/ Was totally destroying the other team as void in team fights,,but in the last fight manage to catch everyone but warlock in my chrono, boom, rerfresh boom arrrrgh! Managed to kill 2 of their heroes and bring another one to 1/4 health, but the rest of the team just folded so easily to the 4 golems . I'm aware that you can purge the golems, however as soon as warlock gets some items it becomes really uneffective. And fatal bonds+ any big aoe ulti is still extremely scary. He is also extremely good at babysitting a carry in a dual lane (which is the most frequent setup in pubs), and even without golems fatal bond is crazy good. The thing i dislike is that you don't even need good positioning to pull off a good ultimate. After that game against warlock I decided to pick bs hero myself and took troll with an alchemist in my team. I don't know how icefrog thought that ulti was balanced ... | ||
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10734
340 Posts
Nothing is worse than getting called bad by a SnY bloodseeker and knowing, even though he's trash as well, he's right. Worst game in ages, I thought I went up a bit in MMR because inn the last few games our team and the opponents had pretty good picks (for a pub) but nope, I'm still trash. | ||
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Garfailed
Netherlands409 Posts
Everyone picks carries, nobody wards, and nobody bought the courier. Welp, thats allpick in a nutshell right there... | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On May 13 2013 20:12 Garfailed wrote: playing all pick with a friend of mine, who just started playing. Everyone picks carries, nobody wards, and nobody bought the courier. Welp, thats allpick in a nutshell right there... Hmm, nobody buying wards is just standard play in low MMR, most bad players can't really use them anyway and will get ganked even if enemies run through vision. Personally, I haven't played a game where no one bought/upgraded the courier in ages, and I'm definitely in low MMR. As for everyone picking a carry... it honestly doesn't matter in the MMR where this happens. Personally I just random so I play support myself quite often, but honestly, my last 5-10 games, we've had at least one support on my team every game. | ||
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Sherlock-Canada
Canada269 Posts
On May 13 2013 16:36 Jetaap wrote: I'm aware that you can purge the golems, however as soon as warlock gets some items it becomes really uneffective. And fatal bonds+ any big aoe ulti is still extremely scary. He is also extremely good at babysitting a carry in a dual lane (which is the most frequent setup in pubs), and even without golems fatal bond is crazy good. The thing i dislike is that you don't even need good positioning to pull off a good ultimate. After that game against warlock I decided to pick bs hero myself and took troll with an alchemist in my team. I don't know how icefrog thought that ulti was balanced ... Uhm. I feel like it is a bit hard to deal with in pubs because you will always have players that won't really listen, but it is simple enough to not bunch up and to gank Warlock in the midgame. (Early he is strong and if he can farm up Refresh+Aghs he is strong but ideally you would have some kind of answer by then. (Like the Faceless Void in this thread, except you pretty much need to get Warlock.) It also has a pretty long cooldown, so if you can get out of town after the stun you have a pretty effective snapback if they try and push. I think Warlock is strong (he has one of my highest winrates with a hero) but I tend to pick him because I like the bonus damage support to support carries who need items and because he is still useful with only boots+mek. But I am not that afraid to play against him; I really think a Warlock that has farmed up Aghs+Refresher has gotten out of control anyway. | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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ZerG~LegenD
Sweden1179 Posts
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On May 13 2013 23:28 ZerG~LegenD wrote: Used to get pretty decent allies but ever since the last patch every single one has been a complete moron without the slightest fucking clue how to play. Yeah I've also noticed mroe disparity in level of play, some are really bad some others really good though. | ||
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