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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
May 12 2013 19:25 GMT
#10101
On May 13 2013 03:45 KwarK wrote:
Whenever anyone on my team bms me in a dota game I jungle until they apologise. So far nobody has apologised. Sigh. I need more reports for the random abuse people think it's acceptable to throw at their teammates.


Oh Kwark. Glad to see you haven't changed a bit.

Being a gigantic douche to the other 9 people playing the match with you because someone else is as well. Especially when there are both report and mute functions in the game.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44242 Posts
May 12 2013 19:32 GMT
#10102
On May 13 2013 04:25 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 03:45 KwarK wrote:
Whenever anyone on my team bms me in a dota game I jungle until they apologise. So far nobody has apologised. Sigh. I need more reports for the random abuse people think it's acceptable to throw at their teammates.


Oh Kwark. Glad to see you haven't changed a bit.

Being a gigantic douche to the other 9 people playing the match with you because someone else is as well. Especially when there are both report and mute functions in the game.

You can mute people from chat?

I have always taken good manner very seriously in gaming. A lot of assholes being assholes have made it so random people being a dick to you is something you're meant to accept when you're just trying to play some games but I don't accept it. I expect better, this is meant to be a game we play for fun.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 19:37:34
May 12 2013 19:36 GMT
#10103
On May 13 2013 04:32 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:25 Excludos wrote:
On May 13 2013 03:45 KwarK wrote:
Whenever anyone on my team bms me in a dota game I jungle until they apologise. So far nobody has apologised. Sigh. I need more reports for the random abuse people think it's acceptable to throw at their teammates.


Oh Kwark. Glad to see you haven't changed a bit.

Being a gigantic douche to the other 9 people playing the match with you because someone else is as well. Especially when there are both report and mute functions in the game.

You can mute people from chat?

I have always taken good manner very seriously in gaming. A lot of assholes being assholes have made it so random people being a dick to you is something you're meant to accept when you're just trying to play some games but I don't accept it. I expect better, this is meant to be a game we play for fun.


Yes. By bringing up the score screen, you can click on the icon depicted as a speaker and mute them. This will mute both voice and text chat. I think it also mutes chat wheel, but it does not mute pinging last I checked.

I completely agree with you. I still think the dota community (TL excluded..for the most part) is made up of gigantic assholes and teenagers with no self restraint because of internet anonymity. But I don't think ruining the game by switching to singleplayer while the match is running is the answer to it You're just depriving the fun from yourself and the remaining players who haven't been assholes to you.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 19:37:45
May 12 2013 19:37 GMT
#10104
Mute people by opening up the scoreboard and clicking the little volume control symbol.
I agree with you but practically speaking its entirely up to valve to create incentives for people to avoid douchy behavior.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
May 12 2013 19:52 GMT
#10105
On May 13 2013 04:36 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:32 KwarK wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:25 Excludos wrote:
On May 13 2013 03:45 KwarK wrote:
Whenever anyone on my team bms me in a dota game I jungle until they apologise. So far nobody has apologised. Sigh. I need more reports for the random abuse people think it's acceptable to throw at their teammates.


Oh Kwark. Glad to see you haven't changed a bit.

Being a gigantic douche to the other 9 people playing the match with you because someone else is as well. Especially when there are both report and mute functions in the game.

You can mute people from chat?

I have always taken good manner very seriously in gaming. A lot of assholes being assholes have made it so random people being a dick to you is something you're meant to accept when you're just trying to play some games but I don't accept it. I expect better, this is meant to be a game we play for fun.


Yes. By bringing up the score screen, you can click on the icon depicted as a speaker and mute them. This will mute both voice and text chat. I think it also mutes chat wheel, but it does not mute pinging last I checked.

I completely agree with you. I still think the dota community (TL excluded..for the most part) is made up of gigantic assholes and teenagers with no self restraint because of internet anonymity. But I don't think ruining the game by switching to singleplayer while the match is running is the answer to it You're just depriving the fun from yourself and the remaining players who haven't been assholes to you.


It isn't so bad, i mean the wc3 days were significantly worse.

I can't believe how people memories are short.
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
May 12 2013 19:59 GMT
#10106
On May 12 2013 17:23 Blazinghand wrote:
why do my greevils always come out as eyeless abominations

Cheeses me to no end. Seriously, when is Valve going to fix the Greevil skins? Every fucking greevil looks like a naked greevil. So tired of having the shittiest looking courier every game.
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 20:19:07
May 12 2013 20:16 GMT
#10107
I'm so fucking tired of playing against warlock. This hero is so broken in pubs it's not even funny. Ult and fatal bond means that you'll win every teamfight, the only way to win against him is to split push and never fight but that's impossible to do in pubs.
And he is not even interesting to play in the slighest, so I don't even enjoy winning games with him.
Seriously, any idea on how to "counter" him in pubs? I just hate everything about this hero.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
May 12 2013 20:28 GMT
#10108
On May 13 2013 05:16 Jetaap wrote:
I'm so fucking tired of playing against warlock. This hero is so broken in pubs it's not even funny. Ult and fatal bond means that you'll win every teamfight, the only way to win against him is to split push and never fight but that's impossible to do in pubs.
And he is not even interesting to play in the slighest, so I don't even enjoy winning games with him.
Seriously, any idea on how to "counter" him in pubs? I just hate everything about this hero.


Kill him first. Any ganker capable of jumping past the enemy lines will do. Storm Spirit, Nyx, Slark, Barathrum.
I don't think he's very broken tbh. There are a ton of heroes that have similar fight turning abilities. Enigma, Tidehunter, Magnus, Dark Seer, Naga, etc. They all have to be stopped the same way: Don't let them get off their ulties perfectly.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
May 12 2013 20:58 GMT
#10109
On May 13 2013 05:16 Jetaap wrote:
I'm so fucking tired of playing against warlock. This hero is so broken in pubs it's not even funny. Ult and fatal bond means that you'll win every teamfight, the only way to win against him is to split push and never fight but that's impossible to do in pubs.
And he is not even interesting to play in the slighest, so I don't even enjoy winning games with him.
Seriously, any idea on how to "counter" him in pubs? I just hate everything about this hero.

Get some1 to buy a diffusal blade. A single diffusal charge instantly kills a golem. Or pick rubick to steal Warlocks ulti.
Dodge arrows
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 12 2013 21:09 GMT
#10110
On May 13 2013 03:45 KwarK wrote:
Whenever anyone on my team bms me in a dota game I jungle until they apologise. So far nobody has apologised. Sigh. I need more reports for the random abuse people think it's acceptable to throw at their teammates.


not gonna justify BMers but don't be passive agressive, yo
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44242 Posts
May 12 2013 21:30 GMT
#10111
On May 13 2013 06:09 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 03:45 KwarK wrote:
Whenever anyone on my team bms me in a dota game I jungle until they apologise. So far nobody has apologised. Sigh. I need more reports for the random abuse people think it's acceptable to throw at their teammates.


not gonna justify BMers but don't be passive agressive, yo

It's not passive aggressive. I flat out tell them I won't work with people who insult strangers online over a game but if they'd like to be more polite then we can all play together. Nothing passive or aggressive about any part of it.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
May 12 2013 21:43 GMT
#10112
a guy picked naix on the enemy team, and our team needed someone for 4th or 5th position as the 123 were really solid.

So I picked Bane!

Game was good, we raped them. Apparently the game is much easier when you have heroes that work solidly on their positions(AM 1, Tiny 2, Invoker 3, KotL 4, Bane 5) instead of some sort of clusterfuck that pubs usually consist of.

Well, end game naix goes and says "yeah my team sucks" and bla bla bla
Naix: "I'll commend AM, Tiny and invoker. Well played"

I shed a tear as the truth is put into the table. The positions 4 and 5, despite being crucial for the team's victory(several team fights won because I would nightmare their batrider or Fiend's Grip their lifestealer) were simply ignored.

:`(
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 21:55:40
May 12 2013 21:51 GMT
#10113
On May 13 2013 06:30 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 06:09 hooahah wrote:
On May 13 2013 03:45 KwarK wrote:
Whenever anyone on my team bms me in a dota game I jungle until they apologise. So far nobody has apologised. Sigh. I need more reports for the random abuse people think it's acceptable to throw at their teammates.


not gonna justify BMers but don't be passive agressive, yo

It's not passive aggressive. I flat out tell them I won't work with people who insult strangers online over a game but if they'd like to be more polite then we can all play together. Nothing passive or aggressive about any part of it.


But you're essentially taking yourself out of the game and making it so it's not just 1/5 not working with the team, but 2/5 not working with the team. I don't see how this contributes to a good experience for anyone...you're like one of those stubborn guys who has to have everything go their way or they afk in the fountain.

EDIT: And besides that, if it hasn't worked in your experience, why would you keep doing this?
._. \: |: /: .-. :\ :| :/ ._. They see me rolling...
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
May 12 2013 22:13 GMT
#10114
On May 13 2013 05:16 Jetaap wrote:
I'm so fucking tired of playing against warlock. This hero is so broken in pubs it's not even funny. Ult and fatal bond means that you'll win every teamfight, the only way to win against him is to split push and never fight but that's impossible to do in pubs.
And he is not even interesting to play in the slighest, so I don't even enjoy winning games with him.
Seriously, any idea on how to "counter" him in pubs? I just hate everything about this hero.

I just played with him and every time they thought they caught us in a bad position BOOM! golem in their face and we almost wipe them. And in the laning stage he is annoying as fuck with fatal bonds + shadow word.
But playing against him.... so much rage...
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
May 12 2013 22:59 GMT
#10115
On May 13 2013 07:13 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:16 Jetaap wrote:
I'm so fucking tired of playing against warlock. This hero is so broken in pubs it's not even funny. Ult and fatal bond means that you'll win every teamfight, the only way to win against him is to split push and never fight but that's impossible to do in pubs.
And he is not even interesting to play in the slighest, so I don't even enjoy winning games with him.
Seriously, any idea on how to "counter" him in pubs? I just hate everything about this hero.

I just played with him and every time they thought they caught us in a bad position BOOM! golem in their face and we almost wipe them. And in the laning stage he is annoying as fuck with fatal bonds + shadow word.
But playing against him.... so much rage...


shadow demons ult is really good against him, just purging the golem out of the fight is pretty good.
Flash Fan!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 12 2013 23:36 GMT
#10116
On May 13 2013 07:59 r_con wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 07:13 CrazyBirdman wrote:
On May 13 2013 05:16 Jetaap wrote:
I'm so fucking tired of playing against warlock. This hero is so broken in pubs it's not even funny. Ult and fatal bond means that you'll win every teamfight, the only way to win against him is to split push and never fight but that's impossible to do in pubs.
And he is not even interesting to play in the slighest, so I don't even enjoy winning games with him.
Seriously, any idea on how to "counter" him in pubs? I just hate everything about this hero.

I just played with him and every time they thought they caught us in a bad position BOOM! golem in their face and we almost wipe them. And in the laning stage he is annoying as fuck with fatal bonds + shadow word.
But playing against him.... so much rage...


shadow demons ult is really good against him, just purging the golem out of the fight is pretty good.


I think of Warlock as Charles Barkley and I like to think of his ult as a "dunk"

you might even say it's a "Chaos Dunk"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
May 13 2013 01:47 GMT
#10117
On May 13 2013 06:51 Vod.kaholic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 06:30 KwarK wrote:
On May 13 2013 06:09 hooahah wrote:
On May 13 2013 03:45 KwarK wrote:
Whenever anyone on my team bms me in a dota game I jungle until they apologise. So far nobody has apologised. Sigh. I need more reports for the random abuse people think it's acceptable to throw at their teammates.


not gonna justify BMers but don't be passive agressive, yo

It's not passive aggressive. I flat out tell them I won't work with people who insult strangers online over a game but if they'd like to be more polite then we can all play together. Nothing passive or aggressive about any part of it.


But you're essentially taking yourself out of the game and making it so it's not just 1/5 not working with the team, but 2/5 not working with the team. I don't see how this contributes to a good experience for anyone...you're like one of those stubborn guys who has to have everything go their way or they afk in the fountain.

EDIT: And besides that, if it hasn't worked in your experience, why would you keep doing this?


I actually like Kwark's approach, jungling is at least somewhat productive unlike afking in fountain. Sure it sucks for the other three guys, but if someone is going to be an ass but their ego is too huge to prevent them from apologising as far as I am concerned it is their fault. The negativity that some people spew out in games can really ruin it for me, moreso than someone who is not playing well.

What I would like to know KwarK is since they have never apologised, if you just jungle til the game ends, or if you bust out when you have significant items and if you have you ever managed to win a game doing this?
[stranded]: http://www.indiedb.com/games/stranded
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 01:53:24
May 13 2013 01:52 GMT
#10118
always when I play with my friend we lose (or we play against bronze scrubs and have a easy victory)

welp
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 02:01:00
May 13 2013 01:59 GMT
#10119
Played as PA with an enigma, Bristle, Windrunner and Slardar. We all lose our lanes horribly (apparently it's NOT good to leave PA alone against a lion and SK... sigh) and decide we need to play five man dota. When we get to teamfight, I was surprised to learn that we had no mek, no blink dagger, no arcane boots, nothing. In all fairness, our Windrunner was busy building a butterfly, our enigma needed a radiance, and come on, Bristleback NEEDED that Battlefury. so after losing a bunch of teamfights, they take both middle towers and the tier ones. Enigma had a moment of brilliance and pushed top with Slardar, who did manage to get the tier two top. We get in a big teamfight again by our tier two top, and we trade PA (me) and Bristle for a venomancer before their team backs up.
Then windrunner tells everyone alive to Rosh. I tell Wind that this is stupid because we're underleved, we have no map vision because aforementioned "core" support items, and going Rosh would leave our mid rax open. They ignore me and run to the pit. Surprise surprise, after losing the tier 3 and mid rax, the other team catches on and runs to the rosh pit. They get the last hit on Rosh, Lion catches everyone with earth Strike, all 3 of them die and they get the Aegis.
After that it was just cruel. Have you ever been teamwiped in your well? Happened to me
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
May 13 2013 02:23 GMT
#10120
On May 13 2013 06:43 Zephirdd wrote:
a guy picked naix on the enemy team, and our team needed someone for 4th or 5th position as the 123 were really solid.

So I picked Bane!

Game was good, we raped them. Apparently the game is much easier when you have heroes that work solidly on their positions(AM 1, Tiny 2, Invoker 3, KotL 4, Bane 5) instead of some sort of clusterfuck that pubs usually consist of.

Well, end game naix goes and says "yeah my team sucks" and bla bla bla
Naix: "I'll commend AM, Tiny and invoker. Well played"

I shed a tear as the truth is put into the table. The positions 4 and 5, despite being crucial for the team's victory(several team fights won because I would nightmare their batrider or Fiend's Grip their lifestealer) were simply ignored.

:`(


The reason so many people want to play carries. They can't see what supports actually contribute and just consider them ward bitches.
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