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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On May 12 2013 01:28 10734 wrote: Feel like playing tinker, ask if I can mid. "ok but I hope you're good at ganking" sigh. laser/rocket tinker | ||
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Ryrmidon
Canada371 Posts
On May 12 2013 01:13 hooahah wrote: it's not all the time, I've been carried/supported a LOT of times. But when your carry PA gets a 30 minute BF and your Bane has Bracer and half way to Agahim at the same time( no wards bought, no other items), you can't help but wonder "why" Yes, you're going to play with people who are worse than their opponents and will thus struggle in a game. Sometimes those people will be on your team. Getting mad at those people is implying you've never been the weakest player on a team or had a shitty game. This implication is complete bullshit 100% of the time, so flaming those players makes you a huge hypocrit. Next time you get mad at teammates just think, there's thousands upon thousands of players higher up the bracket that have the ability to make you look like a complete fool if you get matched vs them | ||
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Sherlock-Canada
Canada269 Posts
On May 12 2013 02:08 Ryrmidon wrote: Yes, you're going to play with people who are worse than their opponents and will thus struggle in a game. Sometimes those people will be on your team. Getting mad at those people is implying you've never been the weakest player on a team or had a shitty game. This implication is complete bullshit 100% of the time, so flaming those players makes you a huge hypocrit. Next time you get mad at teammates just think, there's thousands upon thousands of players higher up the bracket that have the ability to make you look like a complete fool if you get matched vs them I like to imagine a hidden pro dota forum where the QQ threads are filled with pros bitching about people not tread switching at the exact perfect moment and waiting until 2 minutes to do Roshan. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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hooahah
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On May 12 2013 02:08 Ryrmidon wrote: Yes, you're going to play with people who are worse than their opponents and will thus struggle in a game. Sometimes those people will be on your team. Getting mad at those people is implying you've never been the weakest player on a team or had a shitty game. This implication is complete bullshit 100% of the time, so flaming those players makes you a huge hypocrit. Next time you get mad at teammates just think, there's thousands upon thousands of players higher up the bracket that have the ability to make you look like a complete fool if you get matched vs them I'm sure you're talking about a certain dota mindest here, but I'll answer as if it was directed at me since it was my quote. I don't mind imperfect play. I'm perfectly aware that I fuck up more than a few times and I will gladly link you to games where I got raped in the ass and yet my team carried me anyway. I don't flame people either, it's a useless effort. Flaming 'bad' people is about as useful as yelling at fruits to grow faster, and flaming assholes is...well, useless, since they revel in 'trolling'. The problem is that when I hop on to Dota, I don't expect to play with people who are completely unaware of how the game plays. I didn't appreciate it at the time, but SC2's matchmaking made it so that you were -always- matched against people your skill level - which is all I'm asking for, a match with even skills. I know Dota has too many factors for matchmaking to be successful, but when I'm teamed up with a PA that has freefarm and ends the game at 35 minutes with a poor man shield and phase boots, I'm allowed to QQ that my team wasn't up to par. Post game, obviously. Telling the PA she can't last hit worth shit won't help after we've already lost. (or as shown in this link sing sing's words of wisdom | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
2 people picks ursa and Pudge right away. Doesn't say a word. I pick medusa and say "safe lane", thinking I'll take the role as hard carry. Nope! Ursa pings like a mad man, and runs to the bottom lane. He keeps pinging as we chat, so presumably he's muted. Slark goes with me top, and starts autoattacking. We also feed first blood right away.. Call me a bad loser, but I took the immediate abandon instead. | ||
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Ryrmidon
Canada371 Posts
On May 12 2013 03:15 hooahah wrote: I'm sure you're talking about a certain dota mindest here, but I'll answer as if it was directed at me since it was my quote. I don't mind imperfect play. I'm perfectly aware that I fuck up more than a few times and I will gladly link you to games where I got raped in the ass and yet my team carried me anyway. I don't flame people either, it's a useless effort. Flaming 'bad' people is about as useful as yelling at fruits to grow faster, and flaming assholes is...well, useless, since they revel in 'trolling'. The problem is that when I hop on to Dota, I don't expect to play with people who are completely unaware of how the game plays. I didn't appreciate it at the time, but SC2's matchmaking made it so that you were -always- matched against people your skill level - which is all I'm asking for, a match with even skills. I know Dota has too many factors for matchmaking to be successful, but when I'm teamed up with a PA that has freefarm and ends the game at 35 minutes with a poor man shield and phase boots, I'm allowed to QQ that my team wasn't up to par. Post game, obviously. Telling the PA she can't last hit worth shit won't help after we've already lost. (or as shown in this link sing sing's words of wisdom Problem is starcraft has 3 races, dota has 100 heroes. People will naturally be better with some heroes and suck with others, which makes the idea of anything resembling a perfect matchmaking inherently flawed unless everyone plays the same few heroes over and over. I wasnt really directing my post at you, just saying that in general people need to ease up on the flaming and accept that mediocre players will land on ur team every now and then. We re all new at one point. When i first started i used to consider it a success getting 15 last hits as a carry by 10 minutes. | ||
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Norway8278 Posts
No wait. What I meant to say was: My team sucked omfg noobs they keep feed we only win because I'm so awesome lol back2school ezy game. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On May 12 2013 01:13 hooahah wrote: But when your carry PA gets a 30 minute BF PA on my team build just now: HoD > Armlet > BKB > MKB No Battlefury. I don't even know... Happily once she had that up she WAS pretty much murdering everyone (crits pretty good, hey) but until she got up to BKB...just dying to everything. Pudge and Viper ended up carrying most of the midgame. I was underfarmed and playing poorly on CK so couldn't do much. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On May 12 2013 06:33 -Celestial- wrote: PA on my team build just now: HoD > Armlet > BKB > MKB No Battlefury. I don't even know... Happily once she had that up she WAS pretty much murdering everyone (crits pretty good, hey) but until she got up to BKB...just dying to everything. Pudge and Viper ended up carrying most of the midgame. I was underfarmed and playing poorly on CK so couldn't do much. When PA is played in pro games, she never gets a battlefury. | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On May 12 2013 02:21 Sherlock-Canada wrote: I like to imagine a hidden pro dota forum where the QQ threads are filled with pros bitching about people not tread switching at the exact perfect moment and waiting until 2 minutes to do Roshan. "Fucking noob gyro missed 2 last hits in lane" | ||
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On May 12 2013 07:24 TheSubtleArt wrote: "Fucking noob gyro missed 2 last hits in lane" "Had this CK today who didn't even thread switch while armlet toggling to regain a couple of points of hp. Why do I only get teamed up with complete mental retards?! Checked his game history, he only have 2000 games played! Why Valve?!" | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On May 12 2013 03:15 hooahah wrote: I'm sure you're talking about a certain dota mindest here, but I'll answer as if it was directed at me since it was my quote. I don't mind imperfect play. I'm perfectly aware that I fuck up more than a few times and I will gladly link you to games where I got raped in the ass and yet my team carried me anyway. I don't flame people either, it's a useless effort. Flaming 'bad' people is about as useful as yelling at fruits to grow faster, and flaming assholes is...well, useless, since they revel in 'trolling'. The problem is that when I hop on to Dota, I don't expect to play with people who are completely unaware of how the game plays. I didn't appreciate it at the time, but SC2's matchmaking made it so that you were -always- matched against people your skill level - which is all I'm asking for, a match with even skills. I know Dota has too many factors for matchmaking to be successful, but when I'm teamed up with a PA that has freefarm and ends the game at 35 minutes with a poor man shield and phase boots, I'm allowed to QQ that my team wasn't up to par. Post game, obviously. Telling the PA she can't last hit worth shit won't help after we've already lost. (or as shown in this link sing sing's words of wisdom There's no reason to flame though. If you feel the PA honestly doesn't seem to know that last hitting is important on a carry, you can go ahead and tell the player that, hoping to make them better, but honestly, the odds of that being the case is very low. The player probably knew he did badly in the farm department, and is either bad at it trying to get better, or just isn't giving a fuck. In either case, you saying anything didn't help anyone. Personally, I don't bother. I focus on my own play and what I do wrong, which is more than enough to keep me occupied. If other people play badly, that's their business. If you want to be vocal in helping your team, do it constructively and minimally. "You probably shouldn't get item X because they have hero Y and Z which it isn't effective against. Item A is is probably better in this case." Whining on people during and especially after games is meaningless. | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
Repeat this about 4-5 times. Like i am pushing a lane out where our raxes are down, and they all go for a push at bottom while i am halfway across the map, and wipe. This happens as said several times and eventually enemy Tiny gets fed into oblivion and i can no longer outcarry him. They just made an effort to fight without me despite having 0 dmg to do so. Odd as hell since everyone but huskar was playing very solid otherwise. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On May 12 2013 07:20 Dexington wrote: When PA is played in pro games, she never gets a battlefury. Pro games are in no way equivalent to pub games, however. Battlefury is pretty important in pub games to ensure you can flash farm whenever you need to in case your team starts getting behind and you need to supercarry them. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Chrian
United States1472 Posts
On May 12 2013 07:20 Dexington wrote: When PA is played in pro games, she never gets a battlefury. Magnus. | ||
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