EPTDota 2 QQ thread - Page 478
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Ryrmidon
Canada371 Posts
On April 26 2013 00:27 BigO wrote: He wasn't contributing positively by dying 3 times in 6 mins. I said it once. Besides, I'll be the first to say if someone does something good, I just try to highlight the good things they do and (usually) be nice and help them with stuff they do not so good. I feel like some people needs to be told in a very blunt way since they don't seem to understand if you don't. KDA means very little. Maybe he died cause his lane was shit, or his lane buddy abandoned him every time there was danger, or the supports didnt ward to help vs lane rotations, or he was playing a squishy character who the other team just decided to dump their cc on him. Its really obnoxious when ppl decide who they wanna flame by "hur dur this gus kda is lowest". And no, complementing people isnt a green light to be an asshole | ||
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convention
United States622 Posts
On April 26 2013 02:11 Zocat wrote: So if you visit the local swimming bath, park, etc and join a random group of people to play volleyball, football, etc and after 5min you constantly start bickering? "Great pass, omg that was a bad tackle" "Man you are bad at this game!" "Please learn to move!"? And you are allowed to play with those completely strangers for long? That's just annoying behavior, it's killing the fun of everyone. And you are removed. Or at least told to stfu. The same way you are removed/muted in Dota. You have to earn the right to criticize someone. And that normally doesnt happen during one dota game. Especially not when it's retarded criticism "you are bad" instead of constructive one. And no - complimenting isnt allowing you to be a dick. Apart from that, criticizing wont make the people play better. It's even putting them in the defensive position and probably makes them play worse / not care anymore about the current game. So you are hurting the whole team if you cannot just stfu. The other day I was playing bounty hunter. I got hit by a sven hammer, then drow silence and killed. I request some support in the lane because once drow is on me with frost arrows and silence I'm dead. No one switches, so every time I try for a few creep kills, I get caught out and killed. I ends up at the point that I have 10 creep kills, 3 deaths by 7 minutes. I tried to abandon the lane but everyone was yelling at me for letting drow free farm, so I kept going back (not that she wasn't still free farming). At this point though, I'm so far behind in items and sven/drow have been free farming all game, so they basically can tower dive me repeatedly. I was doing pretty well of getting out of the way as soon as I saw the dive coming... until everyone started calling me bad since drow has a shadowblade up now, how could I let her free farm. Of course I then star typing "I told you guys I'm getting owned in the wwwwwwwwwww"... nope, no wind walk, and I get killed while typing. I go back to the lane after respawning but now everyone starts saying "wtf, BH has already died 4 times to drow? Wow, gg noob". Again I wisely try to explain to them, and again chat is up and I can't wind walk away when I see them tower diving again, and again I die while typing. Super super annoying. And the point is, people can get a really rough lane that can snowball out of control and they can die a lot. It even happens in pro games. Did I play perfect? No. But could anyone even remotely near my skill level do any better? Definitely not. So those early deaths can definitely be from having a horrible situation, and no one ever when they flame looks at the situation and realizes that they would have not done any better in the lane. Sure, sometimes people do play really stupidly, but sometimes they don't play stupidly and they got a horrible lane without any support. If people have a really really bad KDA, you are basically flaming that person because matchmaking screwed that person over and put them way higher than they should be placed. That is not their fault, and they shouldn't be flamed and lose all desire to play because they got placed with really good players. | ||
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
On April 26 2013 03:06 Ryrmidon wrote: KDA means very little. Maybe he died cause his lane was shit, or his lane buddy abandoned him every time there was danger, or the supports didnt ward to help vs lane rotations, or he was playing a squishy character who the other team just decided to dump their cc on him. Its really obnoxious when ppl decide who they wanna flame by "hur dur this gus kda is lowest". And no, complementing people isnt a green light to be an asshole I was laning with him as lion and he was jugger vs a solo leshrac.I told him to be careful when I went to pull, instead he went on trying to kill leshrac while I wasn't there and died. He came back, did the exact same thing even though i once again politly told him to be careful. I never care about kda and shit like that, but if you do the same dumb thing over and over while being told it's no good just annoys me, alot. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On April 26 2013 02:11 Zocat wrote: So if you visit the local swimming bath, park, etc and join a random group of people to play volleyball, football, etc and after 5min you constantly start bickering? "Great pass, omg that was a bad tackle" "Man you are bad at this game!" "Please learn to move!"? And you are allowed to play with those completely strangers for long? That's just annoying behavior, it's killing the fun of everyone. And you are removed. Or at least told to stfu. The same way you are removed/muted in Dota. You have to earn the right to criticize someone. And that normally doesnt happen during one dota game. Especially not when it's retarded criticism "you are bad" instead of constructive one. And no - complimenting isnt allowing you to be a dick. Apart from that, criticizing wont make the people play better. It's even putting them in the defensive position and probably makes them play worse / not care anymore about the current game. So you are hurting the whole team if you cannot just stfu. this post is beautiful Hall of fame worthy. Its all so perfectly explained. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
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pyro19
6575 Posts
Fucking ursa doesn't wanna push and they let a Void with midas back into the game..I'm begging them to push and ursa off farming after a teamwipe "I need to farm heart" | ||
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Dogfinder
Canada30 Posts
What is up with this new value mute system, its so flawed! I got communication banned, now people report me because I can't communicate , just increasing the length of the ban. A one day ban turned into a week long affair, because I got reported, because i couldn't talk, because I was banned from being reported. What the heck? | ||
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Rhyme
United States1069 Posts
On April 26 2013 06:23 pyro19 wrote: Why would a gyro think that Going aghs instead of bkb would be a good choice against a team that has void,Huskar,SB and Lina and skywrath...like every single one of them has a disable except huskar.....oh I know , cuz "Ursa is there for the damage"...Then wtf are you there to do? Take photos? Fucking ursa doesn't wanna push and they let a Void with midas back into the game..I'm begging them to push and ursa off farming after a teamwipe "I need to farm heart" all bashes + chrono go through BKB | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
Like, why the fuck do people accept the game invite and decide to just go take a shit or open up Pornhub or whatever the fuck. Then at the last second decide to random or have terrible picks. Man, I don't mind losing good games, but it is fucking miserable when you look at your team and know you're most likely going to lose just from the comp. | ||
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Zexion
Sweden971 Posts
He had midas after 13 mins and armlet after 24. We lost. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On April 26 2013 05:07 convention wrote: The other day I was playing bounty hunter. I got hit by a sven hammer, then drow silence and killed. I request some support in the lane because once drow is on me with frost arrows and silence I'm dead. No one switches, so every time I try for a few creep kills, I get caught out and killed. I ends up at the point that I have 10 creep kills, 3 deaths by 7 minutes. I tried to abandon the lane but everyone was yelling at me for letting drow free farm, so I kept going back (not that she wasn't still free farming). At this point though, I'm so far behind in items and sven/drow have been free farming all game, so they basically can tower dive me repeatedly. This is probably the most frustrating thing. When there's a lost lane, everyone just kind of takes it as permission to lose while blaming someone else, and does nothing about it. "OMG X fed Y and then let him freefarm. gg. Report." Well yeah, of course, because when the lane is 0-2 down there's a pretty good chance the player's options are "let him farm" vs. "feed him some more." I had a game a while back where my support got himself killed a couple of times. I asked mid for a gank because the other guys were getting a bit out of control, and the response is "You fed them. Your problem." I mean, do you want to lose or what? | ||
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oGsTrueSmug
England141 Posts
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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
Oh and you get chat banned after those two games too, cause apparently russians dont like that we criticize their shit builds and picks. Funny valve, funny. | ||
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10734
340 Posts
On April 26 2013 08:25 Fatalize wrote: I love how matchmaking makes sure that if you're matched against a 5 man tryhard stack (gj btw valve for making that possible), you will AUTOMATICALLY get matched against this very same stack next game. Oh and you get chat banned after those two games too, cause apparently russians dont like that we criticize their shit builds and picks. Funny valve, funny. Just wait 2-5 minutes untill they have found a match | ||
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On April 26 2013 08:03 Belisarius wrote: This is probably the most frustrating thing. When there's a lost lane, everyone just kind of takes it as permission to lose while blaming someone else, and does nothing about it. "OMG X fed Y and then let him freefarm. gg. Report." Well yeah, of course, because when the lane is 0-2 down there's a pretty good chance the player's options are "let him farm" vs. "feed him some more." I had a game a while back where my support got himself killed a couple of times. I asked mid for a gank because the other guys were getting a bit out of control, and the response is "You fed them. Your problem." I mean, do you want to lose or what? Yep. "Our mids losing....hm...stack easy camp for him to give him a little more money? Naw. Perhaps send a lane support to one of the runes to ensure the other mid doesn't get it? Naw. Buy a smoke and gank mid to help him catch up? Naw. Flame him? Yea, that sounds easier". | ||
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Shootemup.
United States1044 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25562 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:34 DV G wrote: I feel so sad about last 2 matches that i dont even have motivation to QQ about them this is the true QQ | ||
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
Quite possibly the most frustrating dota game I've ever played. | ||
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