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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
April 25 2013 12:06 GMT
#9521
Am I the only one here who has yet to get a losing streak longer than 2 games? The longest win streak I've had is at 6 and most of those were pretty difficult games to win and most of the games I've lost are because of very very bad teammates.

I also have yet to play anyone else aside from VS.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
April 25 2013 13:11 GMT
#9522
STREAKS
Longest winning streak
11 wins
Longest losing streak
9 losses

Yes, only you
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
April 25 2013 13:35 GMT
#9523
This new system with muteing pretty much everyone have to go, seems like as long as you get reported you get muted. I think it was pretty good as it was when you could simply mute the annoying person. I apparantly got muted for telling a guy that he was bad (he was), I mean c'mon I'd understand if I was swearing or something, telling the truth shouldn't mean I get muted.

So annoying to play without being able to chat.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 25 2013 14:11 GMT
#9524
On April 25 2013 22:35 BigO wrote:
This new system with muteing pretty much everyone have to go, seems like as long as you get reported you get muted. I think it was pretty good as it was when you could simply mute the annoying person. I apparantly got muted for telling a guy that he was bad (he was), I mean c'mon I'd understand if I was swearing or something, telling the truth shouldn't mean I get muted.

So annoying to play without being able to chat.


How socially acceptable would it be to tell a teammate in a soccer game "You are bad" in the middle of the game? It's pretty clear that calling people bad is not acceptable according to valve (or societal standards). If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all
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Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 14:31:06
April 25 2013 14:26 GMT
#9525
On April 25 2013 08:25 Lightspeaker wrote:
...I'll say this once:
NEVER EVER EVER TRILANE IF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO CONTROL YOUR CREEPWAVE.

3-stack of idiots. Pick Rubik, BH and Jug. I pick Lina other guy gets Tide.

BH demands solo offlane and that we trilane. Fine.

I go to minute 1 stack, messed up pull. Try again at second minute it won't stack. Figure I messed up my pull again. Try again. No luck. Get sentries and deward the ward that was in the camp itself. Still won't stack. Try to search for other ward blocking but its just not happening. Their undying drops so its 5v4 in our favour.

However by now its eight minutes into the game. Our lane has been pushed to hell thanks to autoattacking. Tide is doing precisely sod all to help me actually sort this bloody camp out. I'm half way to level 2 whilst everyone else is starting to hit around 6 or so. Then juggernaut decides to single pull the camp pushing the lane even harder.

I totally give up and start trying to clear a couple of creep camps. It takes a few trips back to the shop but I finally get myself a wand and boots and around level 4 (everyone else is hitting 10). Somehow I start to catch up mainly because I'm farming whilst everyone else is playing the game of "lets dance around in front of each other doing nothing". My team starts feeding.


I finish with the highest number of kills on the team. BH finishes 1-6 from a solo offlane.

Worst part? This is in the "High" bracket. I get better games on my other account in normal. -_-


i'm sure you realize this, but not being able to de-ward properly is a big mistake on your part. personally i bring this map up on my second monitor whenever i play support (because i don't have the exact spawn boxes for every camp memorized yet) to make sure i don't block my camps with a sentry when trying to de-ward them.

being able to see the spawn boxes like this also shows you which directions will be easier to pull the camp in order to stack it - which is especially useful to know if you happen to get to a camp a second or two late. pulling in a certain direction may allow you to stack the camp at x:55 because of how the spawn boxes are unevenly placed over the camps.
http://i.imgur.com/YwK9VRc.jpg
dont ever say that
AbuseYouMerc
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands171 Posts
April 25 2013 14:30 GMT
#9526
On April 25 2013 18:42 Fatalize wrote:
I am very high too and the number of people that dont know what they're doing is fucking incredible. BTW when you see people with 20 wins that are fucking bad in very high, I don't really see how you can defend valve's matchmaking.


I have 3 accounts in very high and this pretty much sums up the experience.

If you think you're bad because you're in normal? don't fret, the bracket system is completely bullshit and arbitrary (unless for maybe the .1% top players in the top of the top.)

The difference between a normal game and a v.high game? 9/10 times I bet you cant tell. And neither can I.
BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
April 25 2013 14:55 GMT
#9527
[image loading]


This was one of my 4 carries. Her skill build pretty much sums up MY ENTIRE TEAM(I was mag). Just look at our setup! Qop destroyed the game for me by "dual laning" mid after I was stationed there. Invoker picked last and went offlane with him against kotl + pl

MM is seriously fucked, there's no way in hell im this low, I have a friggen 52,5% w/l after 400 games!
I fucking loath this game sometimes...

I swear to every deity that is, I'm never gonna solo que again!
My esports soul belongs to: Boxer | White-Ra | Daigo Umehara | Nazgul | IceFrog
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
April 25 2013 15:08 GMT
#9528
On April 25 2013 23:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 22:35 BigO wrote:
This new system with muteing pretty much everyone have to go, seems like as long as you get reported you get muted. I think it was pretty good as it was when you could simply mute the annoying person. I apparantly got muted for telling a guy that he was bad (he was), I mean c'mon I'd understand if I was swearing or something, telling the truth shouldn't mean I get muted.

So annoying to play without being able to chat.


How socially acceptable would it be to tell a teammate in a soccer game "You are bad" in the middle of the game? It's pretty clear that calling people bad is not acceptable according to valve (or societal standards). If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all


It's internet, not soccer. Besides I was nice to him first, told him things to think about, then he did the exact opposite and feed. Would someone do something stupid in real life after being told repetedly it's dumb, I wouldn't mind pointing out the obvious, that they are indeed dumb.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 25 2013 15:15 GMT
#9529
On April 26 2013 00:08 BigO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 23:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 25 2013 22:35 BigO wrote:
This new system with muteing pretty much everyone have to go, seems like as long as you get reported you get muted. I think it was pretty good as it was when you could simply mute the annoying person. I apparantly got muted for telling a guy that he was bad (he was), I mean c'mon I'd understand if I was swearing or something, telling the truth shouldn't mean I get muted.

So annoying to play without being able to chat.


How socially acceptable would it be to tell a teammate in a soccer game "You are bad" in the middle of the game? It's pretty clear that calling people bad is not acceptable according to valve (or societal standards). If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all


It's internet, not soccer. Besides I was nice to him first, told him things to think about, then he did the exact opposite and feed. Would someone do something stupid in real life after being told repetedly it's dumb, I wouldn't mind pointing out the obvious, that they are indeed dumb.


It's internet is not an acceptable excuse. It's a team game, and just like in any team game, you are not contributing positively to your team by saying "you are bad". In fact, you are just making the team worse by bringing negativity in the game. As sn0 said, if you don't have anything important to say, don't say it. They are bad? Keep that to yourself, point out his mistakes(politely) and that's it. Going "You are bad" over and over is just stupid.

In fact, I QQd about someone who did just that a few pages back. Annoying as fuck.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Ryrmidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada371 Posts
April 25 2013 15:21 GMT
#9530
On April 26 2013 00:08 BigO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 23:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 25 2013 22:35 BigO wrote:
This new system with muteing pretty much everyone have to go, seems like as long as you get reported you get muted. I think it was pretty good as it was when you could simply mute the annoying person. I apparantly got muted for telling a guy that he was bad (he was), I mean c'mon I'd understand if I was swearing or something, telling the truth shouldn't mean I get muted.

So annoying to play without being able to chat.


How socially acceptable would it be to tell a teammate in a soccer game "You are bad" in the middle of the game? It's pretty clear that calling people bad is not acceptable according to valve (or societal standards). If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all


It's internet, not soccer. Besides I was nice to him first, told him things to think about, then he did the exact opposite and feed. Would someone do something stupid in real life after being told repetedly it's dumb, I wouldn't mind pointing out the obvious, that they are indeed dumb.

He was bad, you're bad, I'm bad, we're all bad. Every1 outside of the pro scene is bad, some are just worse than others. Sure, you probably feel you're good compared to him, but theres thousands upon thousands of players who would make you look absolutely silly and you'd probably have a shitty game if they were constantly on your ass about playing bad.

I don't see why so many people are inclined to call out players worse than them, or why they somehow feel being an asshole to somebody will make that person start playing better all of a sudden. I also don't understand why so many people feel like other players are obligated to listen to their advice. The nerve on them for not playing the way you want them to play, right?

So yea, I guess people like you are my QQ for today.
"He can't beat me in a real game" IdrA
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
April 25 2013 15:27 GMT
#9531
On April 26 2013 00:15 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 00:08 BigO wrote:
On April 25 2013 23:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 25 2013 22:35 BigO wrote:
This new system with muteing pretty much everyone have to go, seems like as long as you get reported you get muted. I think it was pretty good as it was when you could simply mute the annoying person. I apparantly got muted for telling a guy that he was bad (he was), I mean c'mon I'd understand if I was swearing or something, telling the truth shouldn't mean I get muted.

So annoying to play without being able to chat.


How socially acceptable would it be to tell a teammate in a soccer game "You are bad" in the middle of the game? It's pretty clear that calling people bad is not acceptable according to valve (or societal standards). If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all


It's internet, not soccer. Besides I was nice to him first, told him things to think about, then he did the exact opposite and feed. Would someone do something stupid in real life after being told repetedly it's dumb, I wouldn't mind pointing out the obvious, that they are indeed dumb.


It's internet is not an acceptable excuse. It's a team game, and just like in any team game, you are not contributing positively to your team by saying "you are bad". In fact, you are just making the team worse by bringing negativity in the game. As sn0 said, if you don't have anything important to say, don't say it. They are bad? Keep that to yourself, point out his mistakes(politely) and that's it. Going "You are bad" over and over is just stupid.

In fact, I QQd about someone who did just that a few pages back. Annoying as fuck.


He wasn't contributing positively by dying 3 times in 6 mins. I said it once. Besides, I'll be the first to say if someone does something good, I just try to highlight the good things they do and (usually) be nice and help them with stuff they do not so good. I feel like some people needs to be told in a very blunt way since they don't seem to understand if you don't.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
April 25 2013 15:33 GMT
#9532
On April 25 2013 23:55 BadAim wrote:
[image loading]


This was one of my 4 carries. Her skill build pretty much sums up MY ENTIRE TEAM(I was mag). Just look at our setup! Qop destroyed the game for me by "dual laning" mid after I was stationed there. Invoker picked last and went offlane with him against kotl + pl

MM is seriously fucked, there's no way in hell im this low, I have a friggen 52,5% w/l after 400 games!
I fucking loath this game sometimes...

I swear to every deity that is, I'm never gonna solo que again!

Bahahahahahahahahaha! That's the best Drow build I've ever seen. Though those slippers and boots are taking up valuable inventory space; I think they need the space for clarity's and salve's
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 25 2013 15:38 GMT
#9533
I was about to ask why 3 points in silence was the magic number at level 8 until I realized that the player was simply forced to choose something other than stats 4 times at level 8 LOL.
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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 25 2013 16:07 GMT
#9534
On April 26 2013 00:27 BigO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 00:15 Zephirdd wrote:
On April 26 2013 00:08 BigO wrote:
On April 25 2013 23:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 25 2013 22:35 BigO wrote:
This new system with muteing pretty much everyone have to go, seems like as long as you get reported you get muted. I think it was pretty good as it was when you could simply mute the annoying person. I apparantly got muted for telling a guy that he was bad (he was), I mean c'mon I'd understand if I was swearing or something, telling the truth shouldn't mean I get muted.

So annoying to play without being able to chat.


How socially acceptable would it be to tell a teammate in a soccer game "You are bad" in the middle of the game? It's pretty clear that calling people bad is not acceptable according to valve (or societal standards). If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all


It's internet, not soccer. Besides I was nice to him first, told him things to think about, then he did the exact opposite and feed. Would someone do something stupid in real life after being told repetedly it's dumb, I wouldn't mind pointing out the obvious, that they are indeed dumb.


It's internet is not an acceptable excuse. It's a team game, and just like in any team game, you are not contributing positively to your team by saying "you are bad". In fact, you are just making the team worse by bringing negativity in the game. As sn0 said, if you don't have anything important to say, don't say it. They are bad? Keep that to yourself, point out his mistakes(politely) and that's it. Going "You are bad" over and over is just stupid.

In fact, I QQd about someone who did just that a few pages back. Annoying as fuck.


He wasn't contributing positively by dying 3 times in 6 mins. I said it once. Besides, I'll be the first to say if someone does something good, I just try to highlight the good things they do and (usually) be nice and help them with stuff they do not so good. I feel like some people needs to be told in a very blunt way since they don't seem to understand if you don't.


Wait, I found something that fits this conversation so well.
[image loading]
http://skyen.deviantart.com/art/Caster-Comix-It-s-an-analogy-366379855
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 25 2013 16:15 GMT
#9535
Well, I don't think the person in question went nearly so far as this comic does, but the point stands. Calling somebody bad is simply not acceptable, and saying "This is the internet not IRL" is exactly the kind of thought that valve is working to erase. The reason the dota community (and similar communities) are so bad is because people don't treat others as people they meet in real life.
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
April 25 2013 16:24 GMT
#9536
how is calling people bad in real life unacceptable, what planet are you living on.. carebear land?
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 16:26:55
April 25 2013 16:24 GMT
#9537
On April 26 2013 01:07 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 00:27 BigO wrote:
On April 26 2013 00:15 Zephirdd wrote:
On April 26 2013 00:08 BigO wrote:
On April 25 2013 23:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 25 2013 22:35 BigO wrote:
This new system with muteing pretty much everyone have to go, seems like as long as you get reported you get muted. I think it was pretty good as it was when you could simply mute the annoying person. I apparantly got muted for telling a guy that he was bad (he was), I mean c'mon I'd understand if I was swearing or something, telling the truth shouldn't mean I get muted.

So annoying to play without being able to chat.


How socially acceptable would it be to tell a teammate in a soccer game "You are bad" in the middle of the game? It's pretty clear that calling people bad is not acceptable according to valve (or societal standards). If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all


It's internet, not soccer. Besides I was nice to him first, told him things to think about, then he did the exact opposite and feed. Would someone do something stupid in real life after being told repetedly it's dumb, I wouldn't mind pointing out the obvious, that they are indeed dumb.


It's internet is not an acceptable excuse. It's a team game, and just like in any team game, you are not contributing positively to your team by saying "you are bad". In fact, you are just making the team worse by bringing negativity in the game. As sn0 said, if you don't have anything important to say, don't say it. They are bad? Keep that to yourself, point out his mistakes(politely) and that's it. Going "You are bad" over and over is just stupid.

In fact, I QQd about someone who did just that a few pages back. Annoying as fuck.


He wasn't contributing positively by dying 3 times in 6 mins. I said it once. Besides, I'll be the first to say if someone does something good, I just try to highlight the good things they do and (usually) be nice and help them with stuff they do not so good. I feel like some people needs to be told in a very blunt way since they don't seem to understand if you don't.


Wait, I found something that fits this conversation so well.
[image loading]
http://skyen.deviantart.com/art/Caster-Comix-It-s-an-analogy-366379855


How so, I said he was bad and then went on with my life, acctually complimenting him when he did something good etc. Kinda derailed abit here, I just find it odd you can be muted just by saying the phrase "you are bad", feels quite innocent compared to alot of other stuff (didn't threaten to do anything with his mother and so on). Besides, I guess we just differ in oppinion here, after I have given someone enough chances I feel it can be in it's place to tell them how I really feel, I guess you don't.

Besides snO man, I act pretty much the same way irl. I will be nice to people since I don't know them, but if they prove to be an idiot, I won't mind letting them know.
MugenXBanksy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States479 Posts
April 25 2013 16:26 GMT
#9538
On April 25 2013 20:50 MaZza[KIS] wrote:
THis valve matching system is so fucking flawed

I am consistently top gold/min, xp/min and my stats are +ve (not feeding) and I always get retards who can barely push 200gpm/xpm and feed like fuck...

i just got an sk who ultied before team fight and then would walk into teamfight when his last pulse hit.. basically.. WASTED ULTI.

FUck me... fix this fucking matchmaking system so I can play with someone decent FFS


Or you could find 4 other people via irl or the internet and always play as a stack then if you loses its just not hey my team is shit scenario
we all hope to be like whitera one day
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 25 2013 16:55 GMT
#9539
On April 26 2013 01:24 aintz wrote:
how is calling people bad in real life unacceptable, what planet are you living on.. carebear land?

I find it unlikely that you would pass somebody on the street and inform them that they were bad at walking because you disapproved of their gait.
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
April 25 2013 17:11 GMT
#9540
So if you visit the local swimming bath, park, etc and join a random group of people to play volleyball, football, etc and after 5min you constantly start bickering? "Great pass, omg that was a bad tackle" "Man you are bad at this game!" "Please learn to move!"?

And you are allowed to play with those completely strangers for long?
That's just annoying behavior, it's killing the fun of everyone. And you are removed. Or at least told to stfu.
The same way you are removed/muted in Dota.

You have to earn the right to criticize someone. And that normally doesnt happen during one dota game.
Especially not when it's retarded criticism "you are bad" instead of constructive one. And no - complimenting isnt allowing you to be a dick.

Apart from that, criticizing wont make the people play better. It's even putting them in the defensive position and probably makes them play worse / not care anymore about the current game. So you are hurting the whole team if you cannot just stfu.
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