Dota 2 QQ thread - Page 461

On April 18 2013 23:43 Quotidian wrote:
QQ 8 game loss streak.. 800+ games played and Dota still comes off as a badly designed heap of garbage despite what all the "just give it time"-people said when I started out. I really don't get why I keep playing it -- I guess as long as it keeps me away from playing SC2, that's a good thing. But seriously - QQ that Valve are wasting their time on this shit instead of putting every able bodied employee on HL3. It would be a much more worthy project.

On April 18 2013 23:57 Quotidian wrote:
no reason to get into it - it'll just end up with people disagreeing and resulting flaming. Let's just put it this way, it's very clear that the core design of the game was done by amateurs

On April 18 2013 23:50 TheSubtleArt wrote:

just curious y do u think its badly designed

On April 19 2013 00:02 Doraemon wrote:


i don't get it. it's not very clear to me at all

On April 19 2013 00:24 negon wrote:

Another group of people that make me QQ are the absolute scrubs who can't even lasthit, yet they insist on acting like they are trying to understand the game on some deeply strategic level, playing CM, insisting on trilaning (without knowing how to pull or keep a lane stale), asking complex questions on forums and most importantly, getting offended when someone tells them to stop worrying about this crap and just focus on map awareness or lasthitting. Case in point: one of the recent threads in the Strategy section.

On April 18 2013 23:42 -Archangel- wrote:
Anyone ever qq about KotL?

On April 19 2013 00:24 negon wrote:
Lol@Quotidian.
No, you're just looking for excuses. People like you make me QQ. They're bad but refuse to look for the fault in themselves, instead they blame the game. Using big words such as "very clear" (without any actual reasoning) and calling people "amateurs" (because they themselves clearly have perfect knowledge of game-design).
Dota is not a badly designed game, that's why it's been incredibly popular for years, built a huge fandom and produced an absolutely great competitive scene. Bad games simply die out, Dota did not.
Get over yourself. Also 8 games loss streaks just happen. And thinking that you know anything after "800+" games is probably even more laughable than the rest of what you've said. Unless you have played this game on a professional level you're not in a position to criticise it. Simple.

Another group of people that make me QQ are the absolute scrubs who can't even lasthit, yet they insist on acting like they are trying to understand the game on some deeply strategic level, playing CM, insisting on trilaning (without knowing how to pull or keep a lane stale), asking complex questions on forums and most importantly, getting offended when someone tells them to stop worrying about this crap and just focus on map awareness or lasthitting. Case in point: one of the recent threads in the Strategy section.

On April 19 2013 00:34 Zexion wrote:
Meepo picker with no micro skills whatsoever, losing the game and flaming both his team and our opponents. Not sure if troll or just completely clueless about his skill level.

And the next game, I end up in the same game as him, but this time we're enemies. I told my teammates about this guys and that we had to win no matter what and they were positive about it. He picked meepo again, we got fb, everything went well. Except that our Sven disconnected before game started so the game was safe to leave and no stats recorded...no revenge for me

EDIT: He ended up in the opposite team again! :D Sweet revenge here I come!

On April 19 2013 00:38 Quotidian wrote:


"very clear" is considered "big words" to you?

For anyone who has played portal/portal2 with commentary on - just look at how much stuff Valve cut/altered because it was confusing to new players.. now contrast that to the new player experience for Dota2. I'm calling the people who made Dota amateurs, because they clearly, demonstrably were.

"Unless you have played this game on a professional level you're not in a position to criticise it. Simple."

What a silly thing to say. Of course I can criticize it, based on my experience. But the fact that the game is supposed to be played at the pro level and only really works there, but completely and utterly falls apart at the pub level is another gigantic problem with the game.

On April 19 2013 00:24 negon wrote:
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Another group of people that make me QQ are the absolute scrubs who can't even lasthit, yet they insist on acting like they are trying to understand the game on some deeply strategic level, playing CM, insisting on trilaning (without knowing how to pull or keep a lane stale), asking complex questions on forums and most importantly, getting offended when someone tells them to stop worrying about this crap and just focus on map awareness or lasthitting. Case in point: one of the recent threads in the Strategy section.

On April 19 2013 00:38 Quotidian wrote:


"very clear" is considered "big words" to you?

For anyone who has played portal/portal2 with commentary on - just look at how much stuff Valve cut/altered because it was confusing to new players.. now contrast that to the new player experience for Dota2. I'm calling the people who made Dota amateurs, because they clearly, demonstrably were.

"Unless you have played this game on a professional level you're not in a position to criticise it. Simple."

What a silly thing to say. Of course I can criticize it, based on my experience. If a game still comes off as obtuse and opaque after 500 or more hours of playing it, it is obviously too complex for its own good. The fact that the game is supposed to be played at the pro level and only really works there, but completely and utterly falls apart at the pub level is another gigantic problem with the game.

On April 19 2013 00:38 ForTheDream wrote:

inbefore crushed by perfect meepo control! more QQ :D:D

On April 19 2013 00:38 Quotidian wrote:


"very clear" is considered "big words" to you?

For anyone who has played portal/portal2 with commentary on - just look at how much stuff Valve cut/altered because it was confusing to new players.. now contrast that to the new player experience for Dota2. I'm calling the people who made Dota amateurs, because they clearly, demonstrably were.

"Unless you have played this game on a professional level you're not in a position to criticise it. Simple."

What a silly thing to say. Of course I can criticize it, based on my experience. If a game still comes off as obtuse and opaque after 500 or more hours of playing it, it is obviously too complex for its own good. The fact that the game is supposed to be played at the pro level and only really works there, but completely and utterly falls apart at the pub level is another gigantic problem with the game.