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On December 21 2012 18:08 Emnjay808 wrote:
More like a reverse QQ here:
I picked Drow, cause I was like "fuck it, im tired of losing to drow, so ill pick it before they do". I called mid, end up going against Sniper. I do horrible mid lane. I cant cs vs sniper cause hes doing a really good job at lasthitting. He has bh to constantly grab runes for him and they gank me whenever possible. Early game I end up something like 1-6 with less than 30cs. Im like, "wow, gonna lose". But I say fuck it. I just ignore all teamfights, and just go complete farm mode. Through out the entire midgame were constantly down by 5-10 kills and Im non-existant in almost all the teamfights. Going into lategame I end up with Butterfly, HotD, and Yasha. Now Im like "IM FINISHED FARMING". I go into teamfights. I just right click shit and they die. My entire team dies, and im the only one left standing, i solo 1v3. Half of the enemy team buys back, I continue to push, I solo them 1v3 again. ended the game with 8-6 or something like that.
I feel so dirty. Goddamn Drow pickers.
agreed 100%. It'd be one thing if she was only overpowered, but using her is pretty much braindead mode too. Just right click things until they die :/
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On December 22 2012 01:56 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2012 18:08 Emnjay808 wrote:
More like a reverse QQ here:
I picked Drow, cause I was like "fuck it, im tired of losing to drow, so ill pick it before they do". I called mid, end up going against Sniper. I do horrible mid lane. I cant cs vs sniper cause hes doing a really good job at lasthitting. He has bh to constantly grab runes for him and they gank me whenever possible. Early game I end up something like 1-6 with less than 30cs. Im like, "wow, gonna lose". But I say fuck it. I just ignore all teamfights, and just go complete farm mode. Through out the entire midgame were constantly down by 5-10 kills and Im non-existant in almost all the teamfights. Going into lategame I end up with Butterfly, HotD, and Yasha. Now Im like "IM FINISHED FARMING". I go into teamfights. I just right click shit and they die. My entire team dies, and im the only one left standing, i solo 1v3. Half of the enemy team buys back, I continue to push, I solo them 1v3 again. ended the game with 8-6 or something like that.
I feel so dirty. Goddamn Drow pickers. agreed 100%. It'd be one thing if she was only overpowered, but using her is pretty much braindead mode too. Just right click things until they die :/
At least it was kind of interesting playing lycan when he was picked (comparatively) - drow feels like one of the most boring carries in the game.
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I just need to vent, I am so so so so so sick of playing games with people who do not speak the same language I do. I work the night shift so my play hours are very off peak. Due to this I get an abnormally high number of games with non English speakers on US servers. Granted there are more than just English speakers in the US, but it is absolutely infuriating to lose games at the hero pick screen because I have no way of communicating with my team. I generally try to pick around what the team needs, but sometimes I want to play a hero I want to play. I played 2 games this morning as Juggernaut and was stuck on a team with people who didn't speak English. In both games I lost, but the more recent one was with a meepo who went top and competed with me for farm after I called top. He said nothing the entire game except "suck", I shit you not.
At this point I'm so exasperated solo queueing. Due to my weird schedule it is impossible to find people to regularly play with, so I'm stuck solo queueing if I want to play. I'm not asking for miracles from my teammates, I've had my fair share of terrible games, and it's not like I'm a pro. I just want to play with people that speak my language.
Secondly, I'm really tired of how little time you have at the start of a game to coordinate picks with your team. It sucks having to wait more than a minute or two to start a game, but there has to be a healthy middle ground for making sure your team composition doesn't automatically lose to the other team.
Lastly I'm really really sick of people who play support heroes not playing support. In the game I was just in (with the terrible meepo) there was a witch doctor who only bought a handful of wards all game, never upgraded the courier, and whined about needing items. He wound up competing with me for farm, sniping a ton of last hits from me while I'm solo clearing a creep wave, and ends the game with 2 bracers, phase boots, and a shadow blade and claims he has "nothing". It's not like I pick a carry every game and whine about how bad my team is. I play support far more frequently than I do a carry, sometimes I want to do something different than support my teammates 100%. For once I'd like to play a game as a carry and have a team that actually gives me a chance to perform and doesn't compete with me for every last hit.
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On December 22 2012 05:43 Revvie wrote:
I just need to vent, I am so so so so so sick of playing games with people who do not speak the same language I do. I work the night shift so my play hours are very off peak. Due to this I get an abnormally high number of games with non English speakers on US servers. Granted there are more than just English speakers in the US, but it is absolutely infuriating to lose games at the hero pick screen because I have no way of communicating with my team. I generally try to pick around what the team needs, but sometimes I want to play a hero I want to play. I played 2 games this morning as Juggernaut and was stuck on a team with people who didn't speak English. In both games I lost, but the more recent one was with a meepo who went top and competed with me for farm after I called top. He said nothing the entire game except "suck", I shit you not.
At this point I'm so exasperated solo queueing. Due to my weird schedule it is impossible to find people to regularly play with, so I'm stuck solo queueing if I want to play. I'm not asking for miracles from my teammates, I've had my fair share of terrible games, and it's not like I'm a pro. I just want to play with people that speak my language.
Secondly, I'm really tired of how little time you have at the start of a game to coordinate picks with your team. It sucks having to wait more than a minute or two to start a game, but there has to be a healthy middle ground for making sure your team composition doesn't automatically lose to the other team.
Lastly I'm really really sick of people who play support heroes not playing support. In the game I was just in (with the terrible meepo) there was a witch doctor who only bought a handful of wards all game, never upgraded the courier, and whined about needing items. He wound up competing with me for farm, sniping a ton of last hits from me while I'm solo clearing a creep wave, and ends the game with 2 bracers, phase boots, and a shadow blade and claims he has "nothing". It's not like I pick a carry every game and whine about how bad my team is. I play support far more frequently than I do a carry, sometimes I want to do something different than support my teammates 100%. For once I'd like to play a game as a carry and have a team that actually gives me a chance to perform and doesn't compete with me for every last hit.
It's this reason more than anything else that I stopped playing anything but Random Draft. No coordination at all, 4 carry lineups (5 if I want to play carry and no one picks before time is up) and any number of other issues. It's really the worst part of the game.
I would even solo queue CM over playing AP... it's literally that bad.
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SD mode is the worst, imo. If someone picks a Support character in AP, chances are that he'll actually play Supp. Somewhat.
If someone picks a Supp in SD mode, he's 90% likely to play it a carry since he DOESN'T FUCKING KNOW HOW TO PLAY ANYTHING BUT HUSKAR URSA AND DROW so he thinks that "oh hey this disruptor has a hammer and he's on a mount, he's probably a carry like luna and mirana!"
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On December 22 2012 06:00 leloup wrote:
It's this reason more than anything else that I stopped playing anything but Random Draft. No coordination at all, 4 carry lineups (5 if I want to play carry and no one picks before time is up) and any number of other issues. It's really the worst part of the game.
I would even solo queue CM over playing AP... it's literally that bad.
At this point I'm going to do the same. I only queued random draft and CM for a long time but I started queueing for everything to get in games faster. Waiting upwards of 10 minutes per game is kind of a drag, but I guess I have to play a bunch of shitty AP/SD games before I remember why I stopped queueing for those modes.
I'll happily play AP and SD again if Valve implements a means of playing with people that speak the same language.
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On December 22 2012 09:17 Revvie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 06:00 leloup wrote:
It's this reason more than anything else that I stopped playing anything but Random Draft. No coordination at all, 4 carry lineups (5 if I want to play carry and no one picks before time is up) and any number of other issues. It's really the worst part of the game.
I would even solo queue CM over playing AP... it's literally that bad.
At this point I'm going to do the same. I only queued random draft and CM for a long time but I started queueing for everything to get in games faster. Waiting upwards of 10 minutes per game is kind of a drag, but I guess I have to play a bunch of shitty AP/SD games before I remember why I stopped queueing for those modes. I'll happily play AP and SD again if Valve implements a means of playing with people that speak the same language.
I queue EU (RU) West as well and honestly I'm about 50/50 on hitting people that speak english when playing RD. Though the upside to it is that a lot of people play RD on the EU servers so my wait times aren't usually any longer than if I just did US.
Though if you're looking for communication probably not going to help you.
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On December 21 2012 00:54 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2012 00:01 Mithhaike wrote:On December 20 2012 22:38 unkkz wrote:On December 20 2012 15:53 trinxified wrote:
I'm gonna QQ once again about Drow.
Despite the "nerf", this hero is really something else. No matter how far behind her farm is, as long as she's leveling up, she'll catch up due to her innate skills. No part of the game is she really weak, and the only way stop her for good is to have a 5-stack counter her directly.
Drow is a carry that doesn't need items to keep farming. It just frustrates me.
Even if you devote most of the early game ganking her with 2-3 heroes, it eventually snowballs because other lanes get pushed out or other heroes get levels, while we are all busy "delaying" the Drow.
It doesn't really matter because once she gets levels too, she'll farm back up no problem. Not really true, pretty much before her first decent item which normally is a lothar's she is stupidly easy to gank if u have one stun. She has like the least hp of any hero ever, not perticularly fast movement speed and 0 escapes. If you gank a drow to like 0 - 3 she won't snowball back and kill you all unless you let her free farm for 30min. I don't understand the Drow bitching, the only time i have problems facing her on anything is when my teammates feed her to oblivion which in case it's game over but that is true for many other heros like Huskar and shit. Infact a snowballing Huskar is imo WAAAAY worse then a Drow in a pub because with minimal coordination you can kill a Drow no matter what level and items she has pretty much, but a slightly fed huskar on a pub? Fuck. That. Shit. Hi i disagree. I have a replay of me vs a drow on the enemy team. We ganked him 15 times, final score was 3kills 15death, she was still easily the 2nd/3rd most farmed hero in the game in terms of Networth for much of the game. You can see the network graph urself. I was the nyx assassin in that game. https://dotabuff.com/matches/80822109 You won the game... What are you QQing about?
I didnt QQ about my win, just pointing out that drow is insanely easy to farm up and hard to keep down. Yes they had a bounty hunter etc, but we also did our job in trying to gank her over and over again. If it was any other hero, they would have been screwed hard,but because its a drow it alway got back up. Her networth just wouldnt drop.
That guy was talking about how you gank drow a few times and it wont snowball, this drow died FIFTEEN times and still maintains 2/3rd highest Networth? Proof that what he said not true. Imagine if we didnt gank her as hard as we did(15 times come on,thats a lot)....she would have easily won that game even though her team is behind
Drow OP. Nowadays i also build midas on my drow because of that game. Nearly impossible to keep her down zz
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build soulring on lycan then farm treads
drop treads so they can use courier
own pudge respawns and kills treads (yes, he attacks and kills it, its my first actualy item)
flames me for rest of game and feeds
him and sniper feed all game and then quit after 30 minutes
WHAT THE FCUK VALVE GO FUCK YOURSELF HOW MUCH FUCKING DOWN SYNDROME DID YOUR FUCKING DEVS HAVE WHEN THEY DESIGNED THIS FUCKING MM SYSTEM I FUCKING SEWAR THIS PUDGE NEEDS TO GET CANCER AND DIE IN REAL LIFE AND MEANWHILE BE PERMANENTLY BANNEDE
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On December 22 2012 11:41 peidongyang wrote:
build soulring on lycan then farm treads
drop treads so they can use courier
own pudge respawns and kills treads (yes, he attacks and kills it, its my first actualy item)
flames me for rest of game and feeds
him and sniper feed all game and then quit after 30 minutes
WHAT THE FCUK VALVE GO FUCK YOURSELF HOW MUCH FUCKING DOWN SYNDROME DID YOUR FUCKING DEVS HAVE WHEN THEY DESIGNED THIS FUCKING MM SYSTEM I FUCKING SEWAR THIS PUDGE NEEDS TO GET CANCER AND DIE IN REAL LIFE AND MEANWHILE BE PERMANENTLY BANNEDE
Isn't cancer and death enough, do you really need to get him permanently bannede as well? Also mmr system works fine.
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37-8 (I was 37-4 till the VERY end) and i max QoP with shit tons of good gear. I am litteraly soloing their whole team, rapeing bh, rapeing windrunner. My team feeds like crazy: 4-13, 5-17, etc.
Fuck
also we lost
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Been playing a lot of invoker lately. Why the fuck do people expect you to just like abandon your lane at level 7 and start looking for kills? Do people not understand how much farm the hero actually requires to function into the later parts of the game?
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On December 22 2012 11:41 peidongyang wrote:
build soulring on lycan then farm treads
drop treads so they can use courier
own pudge respawns and kills treads (yes, he attacks and kills it, its my first actualy item)
flames me for rest of game and feeds
him and sniper feed all game and then quit after 30 minutes
WHAT THE FCUK VALVE GO FUCK YOURSELF HOW MUCH FUCKING DOWN SYNDROME DID YOUR FUCKING DEVS HAVE WHEN THEY DESIGNED THIS FUCKING MM SYSTEM I FUCKING SEWAR THIS PUDGE NEEDS TO GET CANCER AND DIE IN REAL LIFE AND MEANWHILE BE PERMANENTLY BANNEDE
You're bound to have a game like this every once in a while. Doesn't matter what MMR you are in, there will be trolls who feel like throwing one game every once in a while. If you get people like this 5 games in a row, then your rage would be understandable.
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On December 22 2012 21:17 Canas wrote:
Been playing a lot of invoker lately. Why the fuck do people expect you to just like abandon your lane at level 7 and start looking for kills? Do people not understand how much farm the hero actually requires to function into the later parts of the game?
Most people have no idea how to play invoker, all they know about the hero is what they saw in highlight videos. So at level 6 they expect you to have metor/tornado/sunstrike/qwe (don't remember the name ^^)maxed and to combo them to death.
If you play qwex invoker, they expect you to sunstrike any person they fail to finish, or you play qexort they expect you to gank at level 6 with tornado metor etc ^^.
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On December 22 2012 21:17 Canas wrote:
Been playing a lot of invoker lately. Why the fuck do people expect you to just like abandon your lane at level 7 and start looking for kills? Do people not understand how much farm the hero actually requires to function into the later parts of the game?
Don't mind them. If you can freefarm in mid, stay there for a while. Your ganks will be a lot better if you can farm up your items ridiculously fast. Let's say you get phase boots, drum + force staff very early. You'll be able to kill anyone.
If you're in a random pubgame and you've gone for an Exort build you should be able to kill more or less anyone with coldsnap+d.blast and a few attacks.
Also you can snipe people very well and easily with your sunstrike if they are about to get away. And there's also the lovely combo where you put your stunstrike on top of their stuns for sick damage combos. That way you gank their lane without actually leaving your own.
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On December 22 2012 21:17 Canas wrote:
Been playing a lot of invoker lately. Why the fuck do people expect you to just like abandon your lane at level 7 and start looking for kills? Do people not understand how much farm the hero actually requires to function into the later parts of the game?
Dude, mid ganks from level 1, doesn't need farm, is immune to ganks and is responsible if the other lanes fail.
+ Show Spoiler +That's obviously a joke, but many pub players actually believe that or something similar.
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Just played as a support, I bought a courier, then someone else buy another courier intentionally just because he wanted to show off his Greevil courier. Then he moved my courier to roshan.
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On December 23 2012 01:50 WetSocks wrote:
Just played as a support, I bought a courier, then someone else buy another courier intentionally just because he wanted to show off his Greevil courier. Then he moved my courier to roshan.
Wow that's really harsh dota :p *hugs*
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On December 22 2012 21:54 Dreamer.T wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2012 11:41 peidongyang wrote:
build soulring on lycan then farm treads
drop treads so they can use courier
own pudge respawns and kills treads (yes, he attacks and kills it, its my first actualy item)
flames me for rest of game and feeds
him and sniper feed all game and then quit after 30 minutes
WHAT THE FCUK VALVE GO FUCK YOURSELF HOW MUCH FUCKING DOWN SYNDROME DID YOUR FUCKING DEVS HAVE WHEN THEY DESIGNED THIS FUCKING MM SYSTEM I FUCKING SEWAR THIS PUDGE NEEDS TO GET CANCER AND DIE IN REAL LIFE AND MEANWHILE BE PERMANENTLY BANNEDE You're bound to have a game like this every once in a while. Doesn't matter what MMR you are in, there will be trolls who feel like throwing one game every once in a while. If you get people like this 5 games in a row, then your rage would be understandable.
Feeders I understand
Trolls I understand
Killing your teammates' items deserves permaban
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The problem with playing invoker in ap pubs is that often time your lanes will start feeding and you will be forced to roam to babysit (thus, shitting on your farm speed). Same thing with TA.. Great hero for pubs if you have a team that can hold their own in-lane and allow you to just farm your phase + blink at mid.
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