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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 21:52:56
November 25 2012 21:51 GMT
#4361
Support shitty carries, proceed to lose game

can't play carry because it's boring as shit

I need to go back to sc2

in other news, Undying is seriously fun as hell, loved playing as him so much holy shit

Keeper of the Light is a bad, bad hero and I see no reason why I would ever play him again. I'd rather play Meepo than play KotL again.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
November 25 2012 21:53 GMT
#4362
On November 26 2012 06:46 Lightspeaker wrote:
I really, really, really hate this game sometimes.

Today:
Game 1 - Lina. Team is Lion, Void, Engima, Dark Seer. DS top solo, Enig jungle, Lion and Void bottom. I'm mid.

Doing semi-ok mid vs a Rubrick. Problem comes when team has to actually do anything together. Lion is terrible, basically feeding. Void is ok but has some awful chronos although not quite as bad as ones that actually trap your own team and is constantly off by himself whilst we're trying to fight. Enigma absolutely will not come out of the jungle for anything until fights are nearly over. I'm priority target because of my nukes every teamfight.

I end up getting into an argument with Enigma over him never being near the fights and he's just laughing because apparently calling him an idiot for never teamfighting is "crying". Hardly ever actually initiates with Black Hole, uses it part way through after some of us already dead. Void is russian, albeit one of those who can speak english, and ALMOST NEVER TAKES HIS CAPSLOCK OFF BECAUSE HE'S ANGRY OR SOMETHING.

Lose two sets of rax. Eventually opponent gets sloppy, loses a few teamfights in series and we flat out rush down their throne. So a win, but easily the most painful one I've ever experienced. Absolute agony to play out.


Game 2 - KotL immediately drops as soon as game starts and abandons. Everyone leaves right there.


Game 3 - I'm Jakiro bottom supporting a Void. Stacking creep camp and pulling. Harrassing their Shadow Shaman away from the lane (suicide solo, they had a jungling NP). All that good stuff. Shadow Demon and Windrunner top feed a bit. Shadow Fiend loses mid HARD to Silencer, overextends all the time and spends the rest of the game bitching about how nobody helped him. Of course a loss.


Game 4 - Sven. Beastmaster, Nature's Prophet, Omniknight, Bane. Bane mid. Beast immediately runs top with NP. I'm left with Omniknight support in suicide lane vs Death Prophet and Antimage. Omniknight constantly pushes lane, and steals most of my farm as well as constantly leaving me behind to die. I get absolutely no farm. Everyone feed the hell out of their mid Pudge. Top can't cope with a Lion/Lina lane. Basically GG after about five to ten minutes but game drags out until the 45 minute mark.

Pretty sure their AM didn't know wtf he was doing and STILL we got beat down (Vlads before Battlefury into...I think he was building a Heart, no Manta).


This is genuinely getting painful...utterly unplayable with this MM system.


Looks like a solid day of dota2!!! :D
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 21:57:00
November 25 2012 21:55 GMT
#4363
On November 26 2012 06:51 hooahah wrote:
Support shitty carries, proceed to lose game

can't play carry because it's boring as shit

I need to go back to sc2

in other news, Undying is seriously fun as hell, loved playing as him so much holy shit

Keeper of the Light is a bad, bad hero and I see no reason why I would ever play him again. I'd rather play Meepo than play KotL again.


If you're playing against a heavy push team, he's a good anti-push hero. He does well in tri-lanes due to illuminate and chakra also. Those are his uses. If you aren't using him for one of those 2 reasons, he generally shouldn't be picked. Hes a very heavy "niche" type hero.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
November 25 2012 21:57 GMT
#4364
For some reason whenever I play hard support I feed and am useless all game. Just played incredibly shittily as Dazzle, and there's other examples of this as well. I don't know why people suggest hard support for newer players, it's difficult to be effective and not die with no farm.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
November 25 2012 22:04 GMT
#4365
Sheesh I've played 2 games almost in a row now where our windrunner skips shackle entirely in favor of windrun, rushes a perseverence and gets double sages mask to spam focusfire on tanks.
GG_DotA2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States199 Posts
November 25 2012 22:24 GMT
#4366
Had one strange game

My team was Rubick, Jaikro(me), alchemist, invoker, and pa

turns out the pa was in a previous match with the invoker and the two started to flame each other saying "he was noob"
The rubick was also in a previous match with the alchemist and said, "a farm whore who can't play"

Pa has no map awareness and dies, invoker seems to love ganking with no mana, Alche afk jungle farm, Rubivk doing good.
It's okay because our team has the advantage in the lategame, however invoker seems to have down syndrome and go in 1v5 even after we paused for 5 mins and he had enough time to see the situation. Pa also seems to think she was invincible and goes in 1v5, Alchemist constantly farms and says he has "500 gpm, noobs", does not amount to much in teamfights.

However Rubick and I being beastly supports actually manage to have our team win a couple of fights, what happens next?
Alche farms jungle, pa and invoker push but then does not back off when the enemy team had respawned and dies.....

we could have won, but no, invoker continues to rambo and say pa is bad player. Pa rambos and says invoker is a bad player, alche says 500gpm makes him pro. the whole team collapses and we lose.
Icefrog - a myth, a memory, a shadow. We seek him, but he is not there. He watches, but we are not aware. He is Icefrog, the shadow of the game. He is Icefrog, he is but a name.
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
November 25 2012 22:47 GMT
#4367
Huh and then right after my game with the windrunner, I get a jakiro who maxes his liquid fire and completely skips ice path. I've heard of one lvl of it... but max dual breath max liquid fire no ice path? at all? Where do people get these builds lol. High match making clearly means nothing =p
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 25 2012 23:12 GMT
#4368
Played with a Tinker who, at level 16, had not invested a single point into March of the Machines. He ignored all questions about it as well.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
durecell
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom85 Posts
November 25 2012 23:22 GMT
#4369
I feel so picked on sometimes. I'm not the best support but hey that's why I'm in the normal matchmaking/old low and I do buy wards, get courier, try and support in lane and get support items. However I always get criticised for support stuff. Admittedly some of their complaints are correct but it feels like my mistake are being unfairly picked on. It really gets to me especially when there is another support on our team who hasn't bought a single ward or support item and is aiming to be our 4th carry and no one minds and just focuses on me. I also get way less criticism when I play carries, no body seems to care or even notice that I miss half my cs and my other mistakes.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
November 25 2012 23:34 GMT
#4370
Playing a support is suffering I tell you what. PA gets full free farm up top with me pulling / stacking the camps for her to farm. She is level 7 when the chaos knight and Queen of Pain are only level 4. She proceeds to throw this away by not farming at all for the rest of the game and gives 6 deaths to the enemy by simply not paying attention (Example: see an enemy coming up the river. I ping and say care. She dies to it). Her inventory 30 minutes in is perseverance and stout shield. Seems very hard to actually win a game of DotA as a support when you have to rely on carries to win. This is very high / high mmr, I expected better bth.

I don't want to have to play carries / drow ranger all day just to win, support is my favorite role after all, but if I wanted to play babysit the retard I would volunteer at some preschools.
Xahhk
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada540 Posts
November 26 2012 00:04 GMT
#4371
On November 23 2012 11:16 DR.Ham wrote:
We have a decentish lineup, except instead of going solo mid, our night stalker decides it's too hard to solo against Pudge and bottom lane is never safe, so we end up with the excellent top lane of Night Stalker / Faceless Void. The land which Night Stalker did think was winnable, the safe lane was up against a Drow and a Centaur....

After 30 minutes, when they beat us, our Night Stalker had 21 cs, 1 Kill, 12 Deaths and 0 Assists. He then blames the loss on the rest of the team for not enough wards, even though his lane did not get ganked once. Amazing.


I have about 240 games played, and I never see people like this. What the heck.
Lovely So Handsome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States197 Posts
November 26 2012 00:22 GMT
#4372
Teammate got 3 pairs of boots. Two tranquils.

We still almost won.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198051754686
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
November 26 2012 00:31 GMT
#4373
On November 26 2012 08:34 nomyx wrote:
Playing a support is suffering I tell you what. PA gets full free farm up top with me pulling / stacking the camps for her to farm. She is level 7 when the chaos knight and Queen of Pain are only level 4. She proceeds to throw this away by not farming at all for the rest of the game and gives 6 deaths to the enemy by simply not paying attention (Example: see an enemy coming up the river. I ping and say care. She dies to it). Her inventory 30 minutes in is perseverance and stout shield. Seems very hard to actually win a game of DotA as a support when you have to rely on carries to win. This is very high / high mmr, I expected better bth.

I don't want to have to play carries / drow ranger all day just to win, support is my favorite role after all, but if I wanted to play babysit the retard I would volunteer at some preschools.


You should see normal rank.... Most of the time its fucking terrible... No matter how good us supports do we still lose because our carries suck at farming... then get burned for "not having a good enough k/d ratio" even though we have more assists than deaths.

I'm also like yourself except I play support because I can't play a carry to save my life. Tried alot of practice of last hitting against bots as a carry and I suck lol.

Or I get some fucking troll that decides "hey im new instead of doing some god damn research I'll just go what people say to go as when they fucking troll and pick Meepo and suicide and feed all game then rage dc"
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
November 26 2012 00:44 GMT
#4374
On November 25 2012 22:09 Zalitara wrote:
I got utterly raped by Lina mid when I was playing Batrider, I don't know how that even happens...


First time I went vs Batrider as Lina he kept trying to dive me and I just bursted him down ezpz
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
November 26 2012 01:02 GMT
#4375
So I roll KotL, my team is AM, Slark, Gyro and Voker.
We rape early game against BS,Luna,Rubick,Tide and Sniper.
By the 30th minute we're already at their mid T3.
And this is where we start to get rolled.Turns out Magina thought it would be hilarious lol so edgy exdee to get a blink dagger.Other items were a Vanguard,power treads and a wand.
His next big item is a fucking dagon.

We get outcarried, because our super hard carry decided he would be that one moron who posts a screenshot of his itembuild on reddit or w/e ''lookit me guys no one ever did this b4! XDDDDD''

What could've been a 30 minute win turned into a 60 minute loss


I am so mad right now....fuck this piece of shit.You do your fucking best only to realize some fucking asshole has been dicking around during the entire game.


In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
November 26 2012 02:02 GMT
#4376
On November 26 2012 08:34 nomyx wrote:
I don't want to have to play carries / drow ranger all day just to win, support is my favorite role after all, but if I wanted to play babysit the retard I would volunteer at some preschools.


I love playing Support too. Warm fuzzy feeling when you got a good player on a carry to babysit and then see them dominating lategame.

But yeah...relying on pub carries is just pure agony. I'm honestly thinking I should switch back to allpick and just play a soft carry like Mirana or something every single game to try to bump MMR up a bit.



Its true what they say though...you go on a massive loss streak and then suddenly the system throws you a break. After those four HORRENDOUS games earlier I manage:

Game 5 - Razor. Opposing team has a Centaur whose strategy is to repeatedly charge into our team and then sit there in range of static link. So for basically every teamfight I was at maximum damage drained and doing like...300+ damage per hit, killing their entire team repeatedly. This is in spite of having to compete for the entire early game with a Vengeful Spirit whose idea of supporting was "repeatedly attack, steal all the farm and push the lane like crazy". Oh, no courier for the entire game.


Game 6 - Juggernaut. Best team I've had in ages. Pretty sure a couple of russians but not complaining this time, these were crazy good. Safe lane with a Windrunner support. She's stacking the camp and pulling it, shackling opponents, harassing them off the line; basically freeing me to farm. I get my wand up fast, then treads, something like a 17 minute battlefury, start getting kills on the enemy team. I build up and up and start snowballing hard.

End of the game I'm 26-1. Sceptre/BoT/Butterfly/BKB/Vlads/S&Y. I actually destroyed my Battlefury to get the BKB because I couldn't be bothered selling it. 708 GPM, 800 XPM.


Why can't I get that kind of support EVERY game? :-\
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
November 26 2012 02:11 GMT
#4377
On November 26 2012 11:02 Lightspeaker wrote:
Oh, no courier for the entire game.


So buy one then?
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
November 26 2012 02:22 GMT
#4378
On November 26 2012 11:11 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 11:02 Lightspeaker wrote:
Oh, no courier for the entire game.


So buy one then?


Was no particular pressing need to since opposition was already getting stomped. And frankly I had a morbid curiosity to see if anyone would ever notice and point it out.

Suffice to say: they didn't. No matter.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
November 26 2012 02:57 GMT
#4379
If you have to support at normal just play Veno. Regardless of what your carry does you can usually solo kill enemy laners at that mmr just by right clicking/galing them out of lane.
lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
November 26 2012 03:35 GMT
#4380
On November 26 2012 11:22 Lightspeaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 11:11 ReignSupreme. wrote:
On November 26 2012 11:02 Lightspeaker wrote:
Oh, no courier for the entire game.


So buy one then?


Was no particular pressing need to since opposition was already getting stomped. And frankly I had a morbid curiosity to see if anyone would ever notice and point it out.

Suffice to say: they didn't. No matter.



Haha.. This is the best... I always say " I am going to make a prediction and if its true then I am sure we will lose"
5 min later.. still no courier.. I point it out and then we will lose... fun times...

And always when I get a hard carry...


Anyway... finally after being sub 50% win rate for a few weeks, I am nearing the 50% mark again.. its either I am supporting the fuck out of the games or carrying the fuck out of them.. (Provided no ultra feed from other teammates)

It seems that if i am ever sub 10 kills or assists, the game will be lost no matter because the feed will be so extreme that I cant do anything at all.. such is the pub life.... so difficult to coordinate esp with people who refuse to communicate.. zero chat whole game.. zero ping.. zero responses to obvious warnings... solo queue for life!
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