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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
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Lovely So Handsome
United States197 Posts
On November 26 2012 09:31 Random_Guy09 wrote: we still lose because our carries suck at farming Last hitting is a definitive barrier for most people. Pub games are won or lost in the laning phase unless there are just terrible throws late game. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On November 26 2012 14:56 Lovely So Handsome wrote: Last hitting is a definitive barrier for most people. Pub games are won or lost in the laning phase unless there are just terrible throws late game. I disagree, most games are won or lost during the first night/second day, when people try to dive 3v4 twice .. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10656 Posts
I randomed zues, then we have two guys pick luna and bloodseeker. They both called mid. I say nothing. I then proceed to go top lane (we were dire). Luna tells me go bottom, (against a pudge and juggernaut on enemy team). I say nothing, still proceed to go top. Luna bitches at me, then lets me solo top while he tries to jungle. I somehow end up owning the lane against slark and lina, they both sucked. Luna now comes and starts taking all CS. I saw her build, hes going 0/4/4/0. Yes, no lucent beam, no ult. I say nothing. Now he starts to die and constantly get picked off by pudge even though we called missing numerous times... I finally snap. I call him out for saying he wanted mid even though he was playing like shit. I berate his build (no tranq, no drums, no lucent beam). And he says nothing back. I know I struck the right chords with him because he stopped speaking. No doubt he was embarrassed that I was calling him out for his shitty build and the fact that he wanted to take mid even though he was now feeding. The rest of the team was aware of his plays and were quiet about it, but I had to just keep rubbing it in his face. I was such a douche. I need to take a step back and watch my attitude towards other players, I always feel crappy after a game when I treat them like theyre dirt. It makes me feel horrible. I probably shouldve politely suggested a better item build, or a better skill build: "you should prolly build drums and tranq boots, movespeed and regen is really good on her, thats my favorite build". Something along those lines. But instead I opted to take the douchebag path and bash him for his shit plays. I feel ashamed of myself and I want to let u know, "Dendi's Mom", that I am sorry. https://dotabuff.com/matches/68300059 | ||
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Tsutchie
Australia951 Posts
On November 26 2012 15:05 Emnjay808 wrote: God, Dota turns me into a horrible horrible person. I say the meanest most hurtful things to another person on a player to player basis. I randomed zues, then we have two guys pick luna and bloodseeker. They both called mid. I say nothing. I then proceed to go top lane (we were dire). Luna tells me go bottom, (against a pudge and juggernaut on enemy team). I say nothing, still proceed to go top. Luna bitches at me, then lets me solo top while he tries to jungle. I somehow end up owning the lane against slark and lina, they both sucked. Luna now comes and starts taking all CS. I saw her build, hes going 0/4/4/0. Yes, no lucent beam, no ult. I say nothing. Now he starts to die and constantly get picked off by pudge even though we called missing numerous times... I finally snap. I call him out for saying he wanted mid even though he was playing like shit. I berate his build (no tranq, no drums, no lucent beam). And he says nothing back. I know I struck the right chords with him because he stopped speaking. No doubt he was embarrassed that I was calling him out for his shitty build and the fact that he wanted to take mid even though he was now feeding. The rest of the team was aware of his plays and were quiet about it, but I had to just keep rubbing it in his face. I was such a douche. I need to take a step back and watch my attitude towards other players, I always feel crappy after a game when I treat them like theyre dirt. It makes me feel horrible. I probably shouldve politely suggested a better item build, or a better skill build: "you should prolly build drums and tranq boots, movespeed and regen is really good on her, thats my favorite build". Something along those lines. But instead I opted to take the douchebag path and bash him for his shit plays. I feel ashamed of myself and I want to let u know, "Dendi's Mom", that I am sorry. https://dotabuff.com/matches/68300059 its tough to restrain yourself sometimes, i used to only give people flak if they rage at the team even though they are doing terrible themselves. but nowadays i just mute the team if everyone is terrible and raging. just worry about my own game and GET ALL THE KILLS! | ||
Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On November 26 2012 18:43 Pholon wrote: I hate over extending. I love Artosis. Take what you get then leave and take what else you can get. So often it happens that we take down 2nd tier mid tower and I say "okay we should prolly take down that last standing tier 1 tower in bot lane now cause they're all dead and it's guaranteed gold etc" and I draw and arrow on the map and zealously ping and happily trot off and my team just stays mid and prances around on the lowground in front of their mid rax in full vision but unable to engage and I go back not to abandon my team and the opponents all resurrect and they rape us teamwhipe and I'm like godfuckingsdjafnkgjfng nooooooooooo >_< Two most annoying team tendencies: - Overextending. - Posturing. The former almost ALWAYS happens when you take a Tier 2 because they're all like "omg the rax are RIGHT THERE!" with the exception being if the team is actually listening to you and gets back when you say b. The latter always seems to happen when nobody can quite work up the courage to actually engage. Not so bad if you're an initiation hero because you can lead the charge yourself. But when you're relying on a ravage or a black hole or something to open...painful. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
2009's QQ class!!! Too bad no translation so people can't fully understand what was he QQing  any basic chinese listening skill should be fine. Basically a freefarm DK did 0 impact to the game (he said he didn't even ask for that trilane owned the hardlane phoenix very hard but still 8mins in DK with one pt is just unacceptable and proceed to be useless) and oppo team picked 'tryhard' line up against him, it was a very high level chinese ladder so this kind of BS shouldn't happen in the first place (very similar like some of the so called 'very high level' games in dota2). | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
On November 26 2012 15:03 Erasme wrote: I disagree, most games are won or lost during the first night/second day, when people try to dive 3v4 twice .. I disagree, most games are won or lost during the picking phase, when you either end up with complete idiots or half idiots. | ||
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ForTheDream
Germany1780 Posts
On November 26 2012 18:43 Pholon wrote: I hate over extending. I love Artosis. Take what you get then leave and take what else you can get. So often it happens that we take down 2nd tier mid tower and I say "okay we should prolly take down that last standing tier 1 tower in bot lane now cause they're all dead and it's guaranteed gold etc" and I draw and arrow on the map and zealously ping and happily trot off and my team just stays mid and prances around on the lowground in front of their mid rax in full vision but unable to engage and I go back not to abandon my team and the opponents all resurrect and they rape us teamwhipe and I'm like godfuckingsdjafnkgjfng nooooooooooo >_< somehow the "smart" players never seem to end up in one team  | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On November 26 2012 20:17 Testuser wrote: I disagree, most games are won or lost during the picking phase, when you either end up with complete idiots or half idiots. Most games are won or lost during the matchmaking phase.  | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
how about you don't try to fight 1v5 Ursa, they have multiple stuns HOW ABOUT YOU DON'T FIGHT 1v5 - NO, DON-ah fuck it | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On November 26 2012 15:05 Emnjay808 wrote: https://dotabuff.com/matches/68300059 Dat enchantress. | ||
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Reivax
Sweden214 Posts
On November 26 2012 15:05 Emnjay808 wrote: God, Dota turns me into a horrible horrible person. I say the meanest most hurtful things to another person on a player to player basis. I randomed zues, then we have two guys pick luna and bloodseeker. They both called mid. I say nothing. I then proceed to go top lane (we were dire). Luna tells me go bottom, (against a pudge and juggernaut on enemy team). I say nothing, still proceed to go top. Luna bitches at me, then lets me solo top while he tries to jungle. I somehow end up owning the lane against slark and lina, they both sucked. Luna now comes and starts taking all CS. I saw her build, hes going 0/4/4/0. Yes, no lucent beam, no ult. I say nothing. Now he starts to die and constantly get picked off by pudge even though we called missing numerous times... I finally snap. I call him out for saying he wanted mid even though he was playing like shit. I berate his build (no tranq, no drums, no lucent beam). And he says nothing back. I know I struck the right chords with him because he stopped speaking. No doubt he was embarrassed that I was calling him out for his shitty build and the fact that he wanted to take mid even though he was now feeding. The rest of the team was aware of his plays and were quiet about it, but I had to just keep rubbing it in his face. I was such a douche. I need to take a step back and watch my attitude towards other players, I always feel crappy after a game when I treat them like theyre dirt. It makes me feel horrible. I probably shouldve politely suggested a better item build, or a better skill build: "you should prolly build drums and tranq boots, movespeed and regen is really good on her, thats my favorite build". Something along those lines. But instead I opted to take the douchebag path and bash him for his shit plays. I feel ashamed of myself and I want to let u know, "Dendi's Mom", that I am sorry. https://dotabuff.com/matches/68300059 Looks like his/her build did what it should though . 400+ Lasthits is rather good, doesn't really matter if you get ganked a few times if you can drag on the game with that build.... | ||
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yyfpulls
United States2185 Posts
On November 26 2012 20:17 Testuser wrote: I disagree, most games are won or lost during the picking phase, when you either end up with complete idiots or half idiots. truer words have never been spoken. | ||
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O3
Singapore99 Posts
On November 26 2012 19:54 BurningSera wrote: Some related video for all of us who QQ'ed here: 2009's QQ class!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNW6FYe39bQ&feature=plcp Too bad no translation so people can't fully understand what was he QQing any basic chinese listening skill should be fine. Basically a freefarm DK did 0 impact to the game (he said he didn't even ask for that trilane owned the hardlane phoenix very hard but still 8mins in DK with one pt is just unacceptable and proceed to be useless) and oppo team picked 'tryhard' line up against him, it was a very high level chinese ladder so this kind of BS shouldn't happen in the first place (very similar like some of the so called 'very high level' games in dota2). It's a quite recent video where 2009 wanted to try Mushi's OD skill build and get an understanding of it's effectiveness. Once again, he has demonstrated good insight in the video. He's playing a high-level pub and jokingly complained that whenever people see his handle, the enemy would be more try-hard. I didn't watch till the end but he did give constant evaluation of the situation. If the pubs did their job, the advantageous trilane should be pushing well. But apparently, the DK cannot farm and he was the only 'fat' hero on their team. So all the pubs hugged around his hero for protection, which is inefficient when it comes to farm. At one point of time, he gave up on the DK and commented that DK is worthless and should focus on being a support instead. | ||
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BallinWitStalin
1177 Posts
On November 26 2012 09:31 Random_Guy09 wrote: You should see normal rank.... Most of the time its fucking terrible... No matter how good us supports do we still lose because our carries suck at farming... then get burned for "not having a good enough k/d ratio" even though we have more assists than deaths. I'm also like yourself except I play support because I can't play a carry to save my life. Tried alot of practice of last hitting against bots as a carry and I suck lol. Or I get some fucking troll that decides "hey im new instead of doing some god damn research I'll just go what people say to go as when they fucking troll and pick Meepo and suicide and feed all game then rage dc" Dude, honeslty it's absolutely useless to play "traditional" support in normal mmr, and there's still not much sense in it when you get to high. Honestly, you have to carry yourself out of that shit. Hate to say it, but that's generally been my experience. The only way to play support is to play a harcore ganker and just kill shit, because as many people have said, in pubs killing heroes is really the only thing that matters. I've found this changes when you get to very high, though. I've legitimately noticed a difference in the value of supports, despite what people say. They generally win games. Having wards, tp scrolls, good stackers, etc. usually wins, because people *usually* can last hit and farm to at least an acceptable degree, so as long as your team composition isn't full retard, whichever carry gets the best support tends to snowball better. I'm having a helluva time as I've started playing bane now, for example. Teams of randoms just don't have the co-ordination to deal with that dude. But yeah, in normal and high you have to carry. | ||
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StoRm_res
Switzerland891 Posts
On November 26 2012 22:04 BallinWitStalin wrote: Dude, honeslty it's absolutely useless to play "traditional" support in normal mmr, and there's still not much sense in it when you get to high. Honestly, you have to carry yourself out of that shit. Hate to say it, but that's generally been my experience. The only way to play support is to play a harcore ganker and just kill shit, because as many people have said, in pubs killing heroes is really the only thing that matters. I've found this changes when you get to very high, though. I've legitimately noticed a difference in the value of supports, despite what people say. They generally win games. Having wards, tp scrolls, good stackers, etc. usually wins, because people *usually* can last hit and farm to at least an acceptable degree, so as long as your team composition isn't full retard, whichever carry gets the best support tends to snowball better. I'm having a helluva time as I've started playing bane now, for example. Teams of randoms just don't have the co-ordination to deal with that dude. But yeah, in normal and high you have to carry. Not true, even in normal and high supports win games. Of course you might think that you could have played a better carry than the guy that sucked, but if you had picked a carry yourself you would have been raped even harder because you then there would have been even more underfarmed carries. This is also why hard carries have terrible win rates (https://dotabuff.com/heroes/winning) except for drow, but she's just broken. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
if you get enough money, you can do anything. I've seen iceiceice play a ganking Lion by getting Blink Dagger really early, blinking on enemy heroes and then chain-stunning/hexing/ulting them. It was silly but effective as hell | ||
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