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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
Sumostyle
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden185 Posts
November 26 2012 13:30 GMT
#4401
darn it if you have to abandon don't leave like 1 second after early abandonment without any excuses
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
November 26 2012 13:39 GMT
#4402
I'm a bit new to the game, so I feel like my best bet is to stay with the items reccomended to me either by my allies or by the game. But even with my low level of skill it pains me intensely to see the sniper on our team with absolutely 0 items, except for 2 power treads (1 for each foot? :S)
dreaming of a sunny day
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
November 26 2012 13:48 GMT
#4403
On November 26 2012 22:23 hooahah wrote:
you can carry as a support hero in normal MMR because people are dogshit at last hitting (myself included)

if you get enough money, you can do anything. I've seen iceiceice play a ganking Lion by getting Blink Dagger really early, blinking on enemy heroes and then chain-stunning/hexing/ulting them. It was silly but effective as hell

A fast blink on Lion is a legit build, works wonders if you solo him. Heck, any support can benefit from early gold/xp and become a ganking machine, the problem is they reach their maximum potential really quick compared to other heroes and do a good job even with minimal items, which is why they are not getting farm in the first place.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
November 26 2012 13:59 GMT
#4404
On November 26 2012 22:48 akatama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 22:23 hooahah wrote:
you can carry as a support hero in normal MMR because people are dogshit at last hitting (myself included)

if you get enough money, you can do anything. I've seen iceiceice play a ganking Lion by getting Blink Dagger really early, blinking on enemy heroes and then chain-stunning/hexing/ulting them. It was silly but effective as hell

A fast blink on Lion is a legit build, works wonders if you solo him. Heck, any support can benefit from early gold/xp and become a ganking machine, the problem is they reach their maximum potential really quick compared to other heroes and do a good job even with minimal items, which is why they are not getting farm in the first place.


yeah thats not that silly. Blink on solo rhasta/lion even lina is pretty good. Gotta get close to unleash the fury of your spells.
White-Ra fighting!
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
November 26 2012 14:09 GMT
#4405
On November 26 2012 22:23 hooahah wrote:
you can carry as a support hero in normal MMR because people are dogshit at last hitting (myself included)

if you get enough money, you can do anything. I've seen iceiceice play a ganking Lion by getting Blink Dagger really early, blinking on enemy heroes and then chain-stunning/hexing/ulting them. It was silly but effective as hell


Gettin a dagger and roaming non stop is one of the best ways to play Lion considering his skillset

Anywas, I personally have stopped picking carry heroes for a simple reason - I have to get me a courier, I got to get me wards, then I have to compete for CS and finally there is always this stealthy/skillshot asshole who just waits for you to DPS down whoever you happen to be ganking so he could get the kill.
Getting sufficient farm is mission impossible so I enter the midgame with shit items and possibly underleveled.
If I decide to just jungle it out, 9/10 games your entire team decides its pushing time so they just end up feeding in 4v5 fights and bitch at you for not sticking with the team.
If you get a jungler from the start then the entire team fails to process the idea that they have to stall the game until you have enough to make it out of the jungle so they end up feeding in 4v5 fights or lane ganks again.

Fuck this.
Not picking a meele carry/initiator every again
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
November 26 2012 15:08 GMT
#4406
On November 26 2012 23:09 SKYFISH_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 22:23 hooahah wrote:
you can carry as a support hero in normal MMR because people are dogshit at last hitting (myself included)

if you get enough money, you can do anything. I've seen iceiceice play a ganking Lion by getting Blink Dagger really early, blinking on enemy heroes and then chain-stunning/hexing/ulting them. It was silly but effective as hell


Gettin a dagger and roaming non stop is one of the best ways to play Lion considering his skillset

Anywas, I personally have stopped picking carry heroes for a simple reason - I have to get me a courier, I got to get me wards, then I have to compete for CS and finally there is always this stealthy/skillshot asshole who just waits for you to DPS down whoever you happen to be ganking so he could get the kill.
Getting sufficient farm is mission impossible so I enter the midgame with shit items and possibly underleveled.
If I decide to just jungle it out, 9/10 games your entire team decides its pushing time so they just end up feeding in 4v5 fights and bitch at you for not sticking with the team.
If you get a jungler from the start then the entire team fails to process the idea that they have to stall the game until you have enough to make it out of the jungle so they end up feeding in 4v5 fights or lane ganks again.

Fuck this.
Not picking a meele carry/initiator every again


Lol this, randomed spectre and as such went on uber farm mode, team proceeded to feed 4vs5 constantly while bitching at me. Eventually i had to come help their sorry asses with no radiance and that was the end of that game.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 26 2012 15:32 GMT
#4407
On November 26 2012 22:48 akatama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 22:23 hooahah wrote:
you can carry as a support hero in normal MMR because people are dogshit at last hitting (myself included)

if you get enough money, you can do anything. I've seen iceiceice play a ganking Lion by getting Blink Dagger really early, blinking on enemy heroes and then chain-stunning/hexing/ulting them. It was silly but effective as hell

A fast blink on Lion is a legit build, works wonders if you solo him. Heck, any support can benefit from early gold/xp and become a ganking machine, the problem is they reach their maximum potential really quick compared to other heroes and do a good job even with minimal items, which is why they are not getting farm in the first place.


Further than that, two and a half years ago solo Lion with a fast blink wasn't just a legit build, it was the only build. After daidai smacked everyone around at ESWC'10, Lion became one of the standard mid heroes, practically hardcountering SF and SS, who were the two most common. Solo blink Lion had a bit of popularity but other heroes, especially Pugna, eclipsed it.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 15:39:07
November 26 2012 15:38 GMT
#4408
Pick Gyro, neither the ES nor the WR on our team buy courier, so I do so (eventually having to upgrade the damn thing too). ES uses his Fissure to steal two last hits at level 1. End up destroying the lane anyway, thanks in part to our Nyx who was doing his best. However, our team couldn't seem to get it into their heads that against a Spectre and a Drow, with a team consisting of Nyx, ES, Gyro, Slark, and WR, we should be constantly ganking or teamfighting as 5, not sitting back and farming. Cue dozens of teamfights where ES and Slark don't participate because Slark is bitching about WR taking his farm and ES is just doing god knows what, and a generally shitty game despite my amazing start.

Thanks to the Nyx though for being amusing and friendly even when things went completely to shit though.
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
November 26 2012 16:55 GMT
#4409
On November 27 2012 00:08 unkkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 23:09 SKYFISH_ wrote:
On November 26 2012 22:23 hooahah wrote:
you can carry as a support hero in normal MMR because people are dogshit at last hitting (myself included)

if you get enough money, you can do anything. I've seen iceiceice play a ganking Lion by getting Blink Dagger really early, blinking on enemy heroes and then chain-stunning/hexing/ulting them. It was silly but effective as hell


Gettin a dagger and roaming non stop is one of the best ways to play Lion considering his skillset

Anywas, I personally have stopped picking carry heroes for a simple reason - I have to get me a courier, I got to get me wards, then I have to compete for CS and finally there is always this stealthy/skillshot asshole who just waits for you to DPS down whoever you happen to be ganking so he could get the kill.
Getting sufficient farm is mission impossible so I enter the midgame with shit items and possibly underleveled.
If I decide to just jungle it out, 9/10 games your entire team decides its pushing time so they just end up feeding in 4v5 fights and bitch at you for not sticking with the team.
If you get a jungler from the start then the entire team fails to process the idea that they have to stall the game until you have enough to make it out of the jungle so they end up feeding in 4v5 fights or lane ganks again.

Fuck this.
Not picking a meele carry/initiator every again


Lol this, randomed spectre and as such went on uber farm mode, team proceeded to feed 4vs5 constantly while bitching at me. Eventually i had to come help their sorry asses with no radiance and that was the end of that game.

just rolled chaos knight
1-0-7

Who got my kills?
Venomancer!
who got also kills from me
Sand King!
Who got one kill and took all the damage and had to wobble back to the pond 3 times?
Chaos Kniiight!
Who got almost no farm safe lane because of Sand King?
Chaos Kniight!


And just to make things even better, one guy from the enemy team abandons.
"So have this shit ez stomp 4v5 win as a gift after your current 3 loss streak caused by russians and retards.
You're welcome "
-Valve MM
PS : Expect your next loss streak after this game, we got some russian stacks in store for you :3

So much fun
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 26 2012 16:58 GMT
#4410
On November 26 2012 22:48 akatama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 22:23 hooahah wrote:
you can carry as a support hero in normal MMR because people are dogshit at last hitting (myself included)

if you get enough money, you can do anything. I've seen iceiceice play a ganking Lion by getting Blink Dagger really early, blinking on enemy heroes and then chain-stunning/hexing/ulting them. It was silly but effective as hell

A fast blink on Lion is a legit build, works wonders if you solo him. Heck, any support can benefit from early gold/xp and become a ganking machine, the problem is they reach their maximum potential really quick compared to other heroes and do a good job even with minimal items, which is why they are not getting farm in the first place.

Lion and Rhasta are two heroes that require farm to work in comparaison to cm/venom/sd where it would be great to have farm but doesn't stop them if they don't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
November 26 2012 19:28 GMT
#4411
On November 27 2012 00:08 unkkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 23:09 SKYFISH_ wrote:
On November 26 2012 22:23 hooahah wrote:
you can carry as a support hero in normal MMR because people are dogshit at last hitting (myself included)

if you get enough money, you can do anything. I've seen iceiceice play a ganking Lion by getting Blink Dagger really early, blinking on enemy heroes and then chain-stunning/hexing/ulting them. It was silly but effective as hell


Gettin a dagger and roaming non stop is one of the best ways to play Lion considering his skillset

Anywas, I personally have stopped picking carry heroes for a simple reason - I have to get me a courier, I got to get me wards, then I have to compete for CS and finally there is always this stealthy/skillshot asshole who just waits for you to DPS down whoever you happen to be ganking so he could get the kill.
Getting sufficient farm is mission impossible so I enter the midgame with shit items and possibly underleveled.
If I decide to just jungle it out, 9/10 games your entire team decides its pushing time so they just end up feeding in 4v5 fights and bitch at you for not sticking with the team.
If you get a jungler from the start then the entire team fails to process the idea that they have to stall the game until you have enough to make it out of the jungle so they end up feeding in 4v5 fights or lane ganks again.

Fuck this.
Not picking a meele carry/initiator every again


Lol this, randomed spectre and as such went on uber farm mode, team proceeded to feed 4vs5 constantly while bitching at me. Eventually i had to come help their sorry asses with no radiance and that was the end of that game.

if your team is getting killed while you're farming you might as well get some cost-effective midgame items (drums, ect.) and go help them out
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 20:11:18
November 26 2012 20:10 GMT
#4412
I just babysited a random spectre to 16 or 17 mins radiance and when i took FIRST creep from him to buy wards he yelled at me in voice chat. In Russian.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 21:34:40
November 26 2012 21:34 GMT
#4413
I learned the hard way to save 150 gold at the start in pubs, for either wards or courier just in case no one else buys it. Those 3 creeps don't mean much usually (yes, slower bottle if you go mid can make you lose the game every one in a while when you meet a good opponent), and if the team yells at you for not being perfect, just point them out you are doing their job warding so they should shut up. Chances are the ragers will get yelled at by the other players on the team, unless they are all a stack and you are the odd one out (not much to do in that case).
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 21:59:56
November 26 2012 21:59 GMT
#4414
On November 27 2012 05:10 Narw wrote:
I just babysited a random spectre to 16 or 17 mins radiance and when i took FIRST creep from him to buy wards he yelled at me in voice chat. In Russian.


That is the saddest story I have heard today.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
November 26 2012 22:50 GMT
#4415
On November 27 2012 06:59 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 05:10 Narw wrote:
I just babysited a random spectre to 16 or 17 mins radiance and when i took FIRST creep from him to buy wards he yelled at me in voice chat. In Russian.


That is the saddest story I have heard today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20491697
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 26 2012 23:11 GMT
#4416
On November 27 2012 07:50 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 06:59 BurningSera wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:10 Narw wrote:
I just babysited a random spectre to 16 or 17 mins radiance and when i took FIRST creep from him to buy wards he yelled at me in voice chat. In Russian.


That is the saddest story I have heard today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20491697


And that Russian in his game still probably would have told those families to stop feeding.
wanghis
Profile Joined July 2011
United States320 Posts
November 26 2012 23:11 GMT
#4417
On November 27 2012 00:08 unkkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 23:09 SKYFISH_ wrote:
On November 26 2012 22:23 hooahah wrote:
you can carry as a support hero in normal MMR because people are dogshit at last hitting (myself included)

if you get enough money, you can do anything. I've seen iceiceice play a ganking Lion by getting Blink Dagger really early, blinking on enemy heroes and then chain-stunning/hexing/ulting them. It was silly but effective as hell


Gettin a dagger and roaming non stop is one of the best ways to play Lion considering his skillset

Anywas, I personally have stopped picking carry heroes for a simple reason - I have to get me a courier, I got to get me wards, then I have to compete for CS and finally there is always this stealthy/skillshot asshole who just waits for you to DPS down whoever you happen to be ganking so he could get the kill.
Getting sufficient farm is mission impossible so I enter the midgame with shit items and possibly underleveled.
If I decide to just jungle it out, 9/10 games your entire team decides its pushing time so they just end up feeding in 4v5 fights and bitch at you for not sticking with the team.
If you get a jungler from the start then the entire team fails to process the idea that they have to stall the game until you have enough to make it out of the jungle so they end up feeding in 4v5 fights or lane ganks again.

Fuck this.
Not picking a meele carry/initiator every again


Lol this, randomed spectre and as such went on uber farm mode, team proceeded to feed 4vs5 constantly while bitching at me. Eventually i had to come help their sorry asses with no radiance and that was the end of that game.

I mean the point of spectre is you can contribute to fights with your ult while also being able to farm but ok...
是那种想到他每天训练14个小时好辛苦就很心疼就想给他揉揉肩煲煲汤的那种爱
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
November 26 2012 23:18 GMT
#4418
On November 27 2012 08:11 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 07:50 Alur wrote:
On November 27 2012 06:59 BurningSera wrote:
On November 27 2012 05:10 Narw wrote:
I just babysited a random spectre to 16 or 17 mins radiance and when i took FIRST creep from him to buy wards he yelled at me in voice chat. In Russian.


That is the saddest story I have heard today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20491697


And that Russian in his game still probably would have told those families to stop feeding.


1) lmao, I'm going to hell for laughing at that
2) Putin actually is supporting Assad so :D
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
November 26 2012 23:20 GMT
#4419
On November 27 2012 06:59 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 05:10 Narw wrote:
I just babysited a random spectre to 16 or 17 mins radiance and when i took FIRST creep from him to buy wards he yelled at me in voice chat. In Russian.


That is the saddest story I have heard today.


That is the funniest story I have heard today.
Skol
XX
Profile Joined October 2012
17 Posts
November 27 2012 00:34 GMT
#4420
sometimes I like dota. sometimes i hate it with all my might.
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