In-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 86

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 29 2014 21:28 GMT

#1701

On July 30 2014 06:24 TheYango wrote:
Adding on to PL, I think Aquila, Radiance, Skadi, and AC are all situational/extension possibilities.

Does Skadi work with Illusions? I feel Aquila might be redundant considering you have Stout Shield, no? I added it, but would love to have it confirmed.

Added AC.

Sn0_Man

Tebellong44238 Posts

July 29 2014 21:32 GMT

#1702

The reason skadi is good is because its the biggest stats item in the game and stats are what help your illusions (HP/Attackspeed/Damage) plus PL can actually spend all the mana it provides as well with manta, lance, and doppelwalk being used to create illusions constantly while farming and fighting. However it doesn't really stack with diffusal and it's very much a late-game choice as manta, heart, bfly are all better than it (as is diffusal if ur hitting heroes etc).

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

July 29 2014 21:49 GMT

#1703

On July 30 2014 06:28 Torte de Lini wrote:

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Does Skadi work with Illusions? I feel Aquila might be redundant considering you have Stout Shield, no? I added it, but would love to have it confirmed.

Added AC.

At the very least Basi should be listed. Whether it's upgraded to Aquila (or sometimes Vlad's) or kept until it's sold depends on the game, but the Basi at least holds some reasonable usefulness for PL given his early mana needs (Soul Ring is sometimes overkill) and it's contribution to pushing towers early/midgame.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 29 2014 21:58 GMT

#1704

On July 30 2014 06:49 TheYango wrote:

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Basi and Stout Shield? Can we just remove Stout Shield and add RoP into Basi? and Vlad's as situational?

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

July 29 2014 23:37 GMT

#1705

I'm not sure why you consider Basi and Stout to be mutually exclusive.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 30 2014 07:39 GMT

#1706

On July 30 2014 08:37 TheYango wrote:
I'm not sure why you consider Basi and Stout to be mutually exclusive.

I debate whether so much early-game protection is needed.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 30 2014 07:41 GMT

#1707

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

July 30 2014 14:40 GMT

#1708

On July 30 2014 16:39 Torte de Lini wrote:

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I debate whether so much early-game protection is needed.

They don't serve the same function. The fact that Basi gives armor doesn't make "early game protection" it's primary function, and the miniscule amount of armor it provides in no way lets it supplant Stout Shield.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 31 2014 11:16 GMT

#1709

On July 30 2014 23:40 TheYango wrote:

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It's already added.

I will fix Wraith King now.

Laserist

Turkey4269 Posts

July 31 2014 11:20 GMT

#1710

Fix Naga Siren Middle Skill Build (max Illusions or Rip Tide first?)

Hands down, Rip tide first. Clear the wave, damage the opponent, control rune, bottlecrow hard. Illusions gets bigger as you stockpile items and they are especially weak against any form of AOE in early game. Max tide and decide what to max first according to your teammates. Naga doesn't win mid, she wins games.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 31 2014 11:22 GMT

#1711

Lifesteaker (Jungle)
Removed Orb of Venom

Phoenix (Middle)
Phoenix (Lane)
Reoved Heart of Tarrasque
Moved Heaven's Halberd to Extension Items

Earth Spirit
Added Veil of Discord to Extension Items

Phantom Lancer
Added Yasha to Early Game
Moved Manta Style to Core Items
Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Removed Soul Ring
Added Ring of Aquila to Situational Items
Added Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items
Added Ring of Basilius to Early Game

Gyrocopter
New Skill Build: Q E W Q Q R Q E E E R W W W (1. Rocket Barrage 2. Flak Cannon 3. Homing Missile)

Lich
New Skill Build: E Q E Q Q R Q W E E R W W W (1. Frost Blast 2. Sacrifice 3. Ice Armor)

Lycan (Lane)
Moved Medallion of Courage to Situational Items (after Black King Bar)

Clockwerk
Added new tab: Situational Items
Added Force Staff to Situational Items

Visage
Added Mekansm to Situational Items

Nature's Prophet
Added Phase Boots to Ganker

Naga Siren (Middle)
New Skill Build: E Q E Q E R E Q Q W R W W W (1. Rip Tide 2. Mirror Image 3. Ensnare)

Wraith King (Lane)
Added Mjollnir as Extension Items
Added Blink Dagger to Core Items
Added Blade Mail to Situational Items
Added Hand of Midas to Situational Items
Removed Heart of Tarrasque
Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items

Where would Maelstrom fit in Core Items?

To-Do Guides:

Suggestions for new guides are appreciated
Mid Disruptor?
Mid Brewmaster?
Mid Gyrocopter?
Draft Techies guide (Lane)

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 31 2014 11:23 GMT

#1712

On July 31 2014 20:20 Laserist wrote:
Fix Naga Siren Middle Skill Build (max Illusions or Rip Tide first?)

Hands down, Rip tide first. Clear the wave, damage the opponent, control rune, bottlecrow hard. Illusions gets bigger as you stockpile items and they are especially weak against any form of AOE in early game. Max tide and decide what to max first according to your teammates. Naga doesn't win mid, she wins games.

done

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 31 2014 11:40 GMT

#1713

Wraith King roaming is being worked on now.

Wraith King has been completely reworked.

Laserist

Turkey4269 Posts

July 31 2014 11:44 GMT

#1714

Giving one point to crit as a value point is a bad idea? WK is better with 4-1-1-1 imo.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 31 2014 11:59 GMT

#1715

On July 31 2014 20:44 Laserist wrote:
Giving one point to crit as a value point is a bad idea? WK is better with 4-1-1-1 imo.

It was pretty popular throughout TI4 where people would either get 1 point in Crit or get an early stat for that extra stun.

cecek

Czech Republic18921 Posts

July 31 2014 12:08 GMT

#1716

I think you want stats on level 2 to have mana for two stuns. Although, you might have enough with the branches, I usually buy a smoke instead level one on a support WK. The core items are really weird too. I think core should be wand, treads, blink. Definitely not Blademail and Medal, both are pretty damn situational, I think. For example, without being dire with a good rosh team, a Medallion is a huge waste of money and just delaying your dagger.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

August 01 2014 23:27 GMT

#1717

New statistics will be out late today (August 2nd-3rd). I will be in Holland after, so unfortunately no updates until I come back.

We expect 30 million at this gateway:

- It's taken 5 months to reach 10 million subscriptions
-- 4 months for 20 million
--- and looks like 3 months for 30 million

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

August 08 2014 12:38 GMT

#1718

I have returned from Holland. I will be doing statistics tonight.

NibbloniaN

United States377 Posts

August 08 2014 15:51 GMT

#1719

Thanks for all the work you put into this Torte, I use about all of them and find them very helpful

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

August 08 2014 16:39 GMT

#1720

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Lina (6,407 -> 20,838)
Lion (14,324 -> 34,266)
Slark (Lane) (15,396 -> 30,426)
Weaver (25,342 -> 45,731)
Clinkz (31,168 -> 61,833)
Mirana (34,910 -> 68,183)
Luna (42,572 -> 80,934)
Shadow Fiend (79,311 -> 101,547)
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Bounty Hunter (166,830 -> 190,690)
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Ember Spirit (12,039 -> 36,130)
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Dazzle (4,133 -> 15,879)
Juggernaut (35,334 -> 61,666)
Huksar (59,476 -> 81,357)
Lion (92,907 -> 110,668)

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Dazzle (15,879 -> 35,024)
Faceless Void (85,845 -> 116,488)
Mirana (187,849 -> 222,947)
Luna (212,349 -> 243,569)

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Lone Druid (Jungle) (1,717 -> 7,519)
Tinker (81,361 -> 102,509)
Huskar (105,637 -> 133,977)
Sand King (285,320 -> 318,806)

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Phantom Lancer (88,180 -> 125,948)
Juggernaut (126,707 -> 163,994)
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Lone Druid (Jungle) (28,934 -> 50,379)
Enigma (143,931 -> 165,573)
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Lone Druid (Jungle) (50,379 -> 68,885)
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Terrorblade (361,318 -> 395,937)
Silencer (274,906 -> 293,250)
Shadow Shaman (Lane) (274,525 -> 310,355)
Sven (446,554 -> 482,174)

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