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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
October 17 2013 02:21 GMT
#1301
Capstone 450 is a rebranded 550w unit...
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
October 17 2013 02:24 GMT
#1302
I'm still somewhat sour on Seasonic rebates after my last experience. I had to follow-up regularly to confirm they received my rebate. They lost it, so I had to fax my scans, and then they promptly lost my check and had to re-send. I know, it's really on the 3rd party guys, but he should be considering it at before-rebate price.

With no power comes no responsibility?
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
October 17 2013 02:28 GMT
#1303
But the deal for the seasonic x is until tomorrow :D

My main point of the question was answered by both of you though, which was, is it worth buying a stronger psu if its the same price as a lower psu of the same model even if i dont need the extra psu :D

For my build tho, ill be building it slowly, by scraping pats at sales.
im mostly waiting till cyber monday / black friday. and than also chrismas sales.


i am hoping that my build will be done by the end of christmas.

Thank you everyone (especially to you skyR) for putting up with me and my countless stupid questions to this point lol
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
October 17 2013 02:30 GMT
#1304
I used some psu calculators and such, (although the specs i put in wearnt 100% accurate, but got the mobo, cpu, and gpu correct) and recommneded was 414w


That's probably an overkill recommendation too (takes a lot to pull 414w)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
October 17 2013 02:35 GMT
#1305
On October 17 2013 11:28 IMKR wrote:
But the deal for the seasonic x is until tomorrow :D

My main point of the question was answered by both of you though, which was, is it worth buying a stronger psu if its the same price as a lower psu of the same model even if i dont need the extra psu :D

For my build tho, ill be building it slowly, by scraping pats at sales.
im mostly waiting till cyber monday / black friday. and than also chrismas sales.


i am hoping that my build will be done by the end of christmas.

Thank you everyone (especially to you skyR) for putting up with me and my countless stupid questions to this point lol


Yeah both Seasonic and Capstone get discounted regularly - I wouldn't worry about missing a sale.
With no power comes no responsibility?
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
October 17 2013 02:41 GMT
#1306
at this moment, i wouldnt mind getting the rosewill capstone 450w. it also has a 7 year warranty on it (i know most psu does accroding to newegg)

but im pretty sure i wont be keeping the same rig for 7 years lol. i would like a psu nwo so i wont have to spend another $100 when im upgrading my rig in the future. Then i can keep the same 550w or 650w psu.
(and by then i will hopefullly learn how to overclock and SLI/Crossfire, making the higher psu i buy now more efficient for my future build)
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
October 17 2013 02:44 GMT
#1307
On October 17 2013 09:20 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
Just wanted to add a thank-you for Incognoto, iTzSynpah, Myrmidon, and Cyro for responding to my GPU question.
Hey i didn't say anything Did i? hm



Heh, apparently you didn't. You responded to someone else shortly after I posted my question though. So hey, a little help here, a little help there, we'll call it good.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2013 02:54 GMT
#1308
Hmm Capstone has a five year warranty.
Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
October 17 2013 03:03 GMT
#1309
Is it true you don't need a CPU cooler if you're not planning to overclock?
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2013 03:06 GMT
#1310
Every CPU needs a heatsink regardless if you are overclocking or not. If you are not overclocking than you do not need to purchase an aftermarket heatsink, you can just use the Intel provided heatsink.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 17 2013 03:23 GMT
#1311
On October 17 2013 11:54 skyR wrote:
Hmm Capstone has a five year warranty.

The product pages say seven now though. Maybe it was upgraded.

Also:
http://www.rosewill.com/products/1803/ProductDetail_Specifications.htm
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2013 03:29 GMT
#1312
Hm interesting.
Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 04:30:20
October 17 2013 04:20 GMT
#1313
One sec...
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
October 17 2013 04:22 GMT
#1314
On October 17 2013 11:03 IMKR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 15:22 skyR wrote:
On October 16 2013 15:17 IMKR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Got a last question of the day before i take a break on PC stuff and finish my HW for tomorrow :D

@skyR you said a roswill capstone 450 is good enough for the build. so this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

but will this one be okay?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028

its only $10 more and it has more watts.
also, according to reviews and testings atm, it is still in testing of haswell compatibility but likely compatible for haswell. so no need to worry about that part.


Corsair CX is shit. If you're really paranoid than get the 550w variant of the Capstone lol but I can guarantee you that a Capstone 450w is more than capable of a 4670 and GTX 660.


So i decided to go for the rosewill capstone 550w, just for more future safety.

than i saw that the price of the rosewill capstone 650w is the same as the 550w (due to sales)

should I then go for the 650w? or is that to much power?

I used some psu calculators and such, (although the specs i put in wearnt 100% accurate, but got the mobo, cpu, and gpu correct) and recommneded was 414w, so i know 450w is enough (like you said :D), than 550w is probably perfect. but i found that the 650 is same price atm, but i was wondering if its just having to much power for my build when im not going to overclock or sli/crossfire.

I'd be surprised if you could even draw 300W with your pc (not from the wall ofc).
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Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 04:34:14
October 17 2013 04:31 GMT
#1315
What is your budget?
Around 1000

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1680 x 1050

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Dota 2, LoL, Crysis 2. Very high settings.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Nothing. I have a notebook that I will use for non gaming purposes.

Do you intend to overclock?
No.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No.

Do you need an operating system?
Yes.

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
No.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada.

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
N/A

This what I've come up with on my own.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1PKMH

oops just read previous page, I guess replace the corsair with capstone.
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
October 17 2013 05:21 GMT
#1316
@Fumanchu
The main problem I see is that you've selected a locked Intel processor with an overclocking motherboard. Either get an i5-4670K so you can overclock (and add an aftermarket heatsink) or get a cheaper B85 motherboard.

Other than that, the video card is pretty overkill for your smallish monitor. Hopefully you're planning on a monitor upgrade soon after you build the new computer tower. Otherwise going for a 7950 seems a bit silly.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2013 05:48 GMT
#1317
On October 17 2013 13:31 Fumanchu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
Around 1000

What is your monitor's native resolution?
1680 x 1050

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Dota 2, LoL, Crysis 2. Very high settings.

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Nothing. I have a notebook that I will use for non gaming purposes.

Do you intend to overclock?
No.

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No.

Do you need an operating system?
Yes.

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No.

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
No.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada.

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
N/A

This what I've come up with on my own.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1PKMH

oops just read previous page, I guess replace the corsair with capstone.


$939, add Windows and I assume you have a disc drive already. You can get the Define R4 if you want, the white one is ~$85 and the black one is ~$110.

Core i5 4670 @ $220 (pricematch with http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8037044 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45430

Gigabyte B85M-HD3 @ $74 (pricematch with http://www.pc-canada.com/item/GA-B85M-HD3.html )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46155

G.Skill Ripjaws RipjawsX 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $83 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD5211 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX33234

Western Digital Blue 1TB @ $63 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=25350DR1363 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX40551

Crucial M500 240GB @ $159 (pricematch with http://ncix.com/products/?sku=81655&promoid=1313 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45375

Fractal Design Arc Mini @ $50 (pricematch with http://ncix.com/products/?sku=67628&promoid=1313 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX37330

XFX Radeon HD7950 @ $220
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=88961&promoid=1313

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $70
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
October 17 2013 06:11 GMT
#1318
what about this one for the ram for him? the one you recommended.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144658&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

cheaper and (for future) faster.

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
October 17 2013 06:30 GMT
#1319
Taller heatspreaders (bad) and 2133cas10 @1.65v isn't anything special

There's plenty good RAM in US, but he's buying from canada
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 17 2013 06:37 GMT
#1320
I don't check Newegg since their pricing typically blows but it seems that their memory pricing hasn't gone up like everyone else so you can purchase it from Newegg since you're getting the Capstone from them as well, 1866MHz for $76: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455
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