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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 11 2016 03:47 GMT
#12121
With an old I5-750

What GPU should I get to improve the computer a little bit without being bottlenecked? Using GTX 460 atm (Just want to run some games at medium settings)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
June 11 2016 07:35 GMT
#12122
Which games?
twitch.tv/cratonz
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 11 2016 13:43 GMT
#12123
On June 11 2016 16:35 Craton wrote:
Which games?


Stuff like Diablo 3, Witcher 3, Fallout 4, etc.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-13 04:37:52
June 12 2016 21:46 GMT
#12124
Fallout is very CPU heavy at times. Witcher is CPU heavy in some areas, but can turn up graphics a lot with a strong GPU to keep it busy (maybe with some fps dips)

Nvidia driver is more CPU efficient than AMD's for Fallout and maybe Witcher, this pic is an example of performance when quite heavily CPU limited:

[image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-14 08:04:48
June 13 2016 21:35 GMT
#12125
Hi everybody, so I updated my build again.
I'm hoping this is the last time I need to.
Does anybody have any feedback?

Thank you all so much for all of your advice thus far

Updated Build
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K www.newegg.com
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 Tower Cooler For AMD/Intel CPU www.newegg.com
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G www.newegg.com
MOBO: MSI MSI Gaming Z170A GAMING M5 www.newegg.com
HDD:WD Blue 1TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive www.newegg.com
SDD: SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB www.newegg.com
Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 www.newegg.com
OS: Windows 10 Home www.newegg.com
DVD Burner: ASUS 24X DVD Burner www.newegg.com
Case: Air 540 www.newegg.com
PSU: Rosewill Capstone-G750, Capstone G Series 550W www.newegg.com
Monitor(s): Acer XB270HU Abprz Black 27" 144Hz www.newegg.com
+ I already have 1920x1080 Asus 23.6H
Total Price: $2,356.89

Link to build: secure.newegg.com
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
June 14 2016 09:48 GMT
#12126
@TyrionSC2:
Monster build, looks good to me. $600 sounds a lot for a monitor without IPS or AV panel though but I haven't really looked around lately.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 14 2016 14:05 GMT
#12127
Is the RX 480 as hype as I read it to be? Something about 970-980 level performance for $200.
maru lover forever
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-14 15:15:10
June 14 2016 15:04 GMT
#12128
Planning a build for around $1500-$2000 budget, any advice on the items below would be appreciated:

Already have:
1440p Monitor
750W Power Supply
7200rpm 1TB backup HDD
256GB backup SSD
DVD RW

Buying:
Case: CM HAF 932 Advanced
Mobo: ASUS Z170-A
CPU: i7-6700K
Cooler Fan: CM Hyper 212 EVO
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB
SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 512GB
Graphic Card: EVGA 1080, when in stock

Total came out around $1700, haven't assembled a PC in many years, let me know if there are any compatibility problems or if I'm missing anything.
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey781 Posts
June 14 2016 16:48 GMT
#12129
My old veteran laptop is acting weird. When I enable the gpu, whatever version driver I install does not matter, it crashes the computer as soon as windows starts. I think there's a hardware level problem with gpu. I can only use it with vga resolution (640x480 I guess). Is there something you can suggest to up the resolution? I won't play a game or anything on it just don't want to buy a brand new laptop for mobility, since laptops nowadays are just money stealers.
Age of Mythology forever!
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
June 14 2016 18:00 GMT
#12130
I have some temperature questions. After getting a 6600k and OCing it to 4.3, stresstesing showed that it reached a max temp of 84 degrees celsius, using a max voltage of 1.325. Are these values too high?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-14 18:29:43
June 14 2016 18:29 GMT
#12131
On June 15 2016 00:04 Glacierz wrote:
Planning a build for around $1500-$2000 budget, any advice on the items below would be appreciated:

Already have:
1440p Monitor
750W Power Supply
7200rpm 1TB backup HDD
256GB backup SSD
DVD RW

Buying:
Case: CM HAF 932 Advanced
Mobo: ASUS Z170-A
CPU: i7-6700K
Cooler Fan: CM Hyper 212 EVO
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB
SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 512GB
Graphic Card: EVGA 1080, when in stock

Total came out around $1700, haven't assembled a PC in many years, let me know if there are any compatibility problems or if I'm missing anything.

I don't see any compatibility issues, but the clearance on the graphics card in that case concerns me. It looks like there's a big bulgey thing where the graphics card would sit that might get in the way. You'll want to make sure that won't be an issue. Power supply is probably double what you need.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-14 20:41:32
June 14 2016 20:38 GMT
#12132
On June 15 2016 03:29 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 00:04 Glacierz wrote:
Planning a build for around $1500-$2000 budget, any advice on the items below would be appreciated:

Already have:
1440p Monitor
750W Power Supply
7200rpm 1TB backup HDD
256GB backup SSD
DVD RW

Buying:
Case: CM HAF 932 Advanced
Mobo: ASUS Z170-A
CPU: i7-6700K
Cooler Fan: CM Hyper 212 EVO
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB
SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 512GB
Graphic Card: EVGA 1080, when in stock

Total came out around $1700, haven't assembled a PC in many years, let me know if there are any compatibility problems or if I'm missing anything.

I don't see any compatibility issues, but the clearance on the graphics card in that case concerns me. It looks like there's a big bulgey thing where the graphics card would sit that might get in the way. You'll want to make sure that won't be an issue. Power supply is probably double what you need.


Hmm good point, I checked the dimensions: the CM HAF case is described as a full size case, the chart states it has over 320mm of room until it hits the drive bay. The card's dimension is 10.5', which is below 300mm. Allowing for extra space on the left side, it should be able to fit in, but could be a little tight. Do cases go any longer than this though?
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
June 14 2016 23:25 GMT
#12133
In some you can remove the drive bay entirely or partially, and you can of course get cases that are just larger in general.

Sounds like it should fit though. Sometimes you can angle the gpu in if it's a close call.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 01:05:58
June 15 2016 00:34 GMT
#12134
On June 15 2016 03:00 Intact wrote:
I have some temperature questions. After getting a 6600k and OCing it to 4.3, stresstesing showed that it reached a max temp of 84 degrees celsius, using a max voltage of 1.325. Are these values too high?


What stress testing? What cooling and room temperature?

you can also probably do 4.4 - 4.6ghz on that voltage and almost the same temperatures

Temperatures correlate very strongly to power draw and vary a lot with different CPU loads:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Almost all CPU loads are around the cinebench to x264 numbers and nowhere near the top ones
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 01:31:47
June 15 2016 01:31 GMT
#12135
On June 15 2016 05:38 Glacierz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 03:29 Craton wrote:
On June 15 2016 00:04 Glacierz wrote:
Planning a build for around $1500-$2000 budget, any advice on the items below would be appreciated:

Already have:
1440p Monitor
750W Power Supply
7200rpm 1TB backup HDD
256GB backup SSD
DVD RW

Buying:
Case: CM HAF 932 Advanced
Mobo: ASUS Z170-A
CPU: i7-6700K
Cooler Fan: CM Hyper 212 EVO
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB
SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 512GB
Graphic Card: EVGA 1080, when in stock

Total came out around $1700, haven't assembled a PC in many years, let me know if there are any compatibility problems or if I'm missing anything.

I don't see any compatibility issues, but the clearance on the graphics card in that case concerns me. It looks like there's a big bulgey thing where the graphics card would sit that might get in the way. You'll want to make sure that won't be an issue. Power supply is probably double what you need.


Hmm good point, I checked the dimensions: the CM HAF case is described as a full size case, the chart states it has over 320mm of room until it hits the drive bay. The card's dimension is 10.5', which is below 300mm. Allowing for extra space on the left side, it should be able to fit in, but could be a little tight. Do cases go any longer than this though?

Sure, there are tons of huge cases. Sounds like yours would fit fine, though. The power connection is on the top not the rear, so you don't have to worry about that.

The specific thing I was concerned about is that plastic thing that sits behind the HDD bay. You can see it here: YouTube. It's removable, so if your card doesn't fit around it you can just not use it (i.e. it shouldn't be a problem).
twitch.tv/cratonz
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
June 15 2016 08:24 GMT
#12136
On June 15 2016 09:34 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 03:00 Intact wrote:
I have some temperature questions. After getting a 6600k and OCing it to 4.3, stresstesing showed that it reached a max temp of 84 degrees celsius, using a max voltage of 1.325. Are these values too high?


What stress testing? What cooling and room temperature?

you can also probably do 4.4 - 4.6ghz on that voltage and almost the same temperatures

Temperatures correlate very strongly to power draw and vary a lot with different CPU loads:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Almost all CPU loads are around the cinebench to x264 numbers and nowhere near the top ones



Ran ROG realbench for 1 hour. Cooling is a CM Hyper TX3 air cooler. It is a mITX case so cables and airflow and not great. Room temp is roughly 19 degrees. I think the voltage might be set to auto? I never overclocked anything before, just changed the ratio to 43 and tried it
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
June 15 2016 13:20 GMT
#12137
On June 15 2016 17:24 Intact wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 09:34 Cyro wrote:
On June 15 2016 03:00 Intact wrote:
I have some temperature questions. After getting a 6600k and OCing it to 4.3, stresstesing showed that it reached a max temp of 84 degrees celsius, using a max voltage of 1.325. Are these values too high?


What stress testing? What cooling and room temperature?

you can also probably do 4.4 - 4.6ghz on that voltage and almost the same temperatures

Temperatures correlate very strongly to power draw and vary a lot with different CPU loads:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Almost all CPU loads are around the cinebench to x264 numbers and nowhere near the top ones



Ran ROG realbench for 1 hour. Cooling is a CM Hyper TX3 air cooler. It is a mITX case so cables and airflow and not great. Room temp is roughly 19 degrees. I think the voltage might be set to auto? I never overclocked anything before, just changed the ratio to 43 and tried it


You should manually set important voltages (at least vcore) - those temps are significantly higher than expected as well
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
June 15 2016 21:19 GMT
#12138
On June 15 2016 22:20 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 17:24 Intact wrote:
On June 15 2016 09:34 Cyro wrote:
On June 15 2016 03:00 Intact wrote:
I have some temperature questions. After getting a 6600k and OCing it to 4.3, stresstesing showed that it reached a max temp of 84 degrees celsius, using a max voltage of 1.325. Are these values too high?


What stress testing? What cooling and room temperature?

you can also probably do 4.4 - 4.6ghz on that voltage and almost the same temperatures

Temperatures correlate very strongly to power draw and vary a lot with different CPU loads:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Almost all CPU loads are around the cinebench to x264 numbers and nowhere near the top ones



Ran ROG realbench for 1 hour. Cooling is a CM Hyper TX3 air cooler. It is a mITX case so cables and airflow and not great. Room temp is roughly 19 degrees. I think the voltage might be set to auto? I never overclocked anything before, just changed the ratio to 43 and tried it


You should manually set important voltages (at least vcore) - those temps are significantly higher than expected as well


Manually setting a lower voltage did absolutely nothing for the temps
I'm starting to think that my CPU cooler might not be correctly installed, its was a bit finicky and one of the mounting points seemed to "pop up" a couple times during assembly, but it seemed snug and solid when I finished the build
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
June 15 2016 23:30 GMT
#12139
@ Everybody more knowledgeable than myself, which GTX 1080 should I be looking for?

I've been following it all as closely as I can but I know I don't know everything so here's what I've been considering:

MSI Gaming X 8G
EVGA FTW
Gigabyte Xtreme

What do you guys think?

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 10:52:02
June 16 2016 10:49 GMT
#12140
Not sure about the 1080 models (not seeing a lot of good reviews out either) but you probably one want with good cooling and more than one power connector. The single 8-pin connectors + pci-e slot don't provide enough power to avoid power limits while overclocking. Looks like Gigabyte has renamed their flagship card yet again
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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