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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
May 22 2016 12:11 GMT
#11981
no one wanna help me out?
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
May 22 2016 13:54 GMT
#11982
@Duvon:
The thing is that when you ask for advice with a specific budget in mind then raise that budget right away it makes it difficult to help.

The 6700k is a better CPU in every way and the mobo I added was only because of budget constraints.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
May 22 2016 14:03 GMT
#11983
On May 20 2016 15:37 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
What is your budget?
1200 EUR

What is your monitor's native resolution?
Currently 1080p - gonna upgrade later this year to 1440p

What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Playing everything - simple games like d3 and also games like witcher 3 or farcry stuff or sc2

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Streaming

Do you intend to overclock?
Yes, but just beginner friendly level of overclock

Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
maybe but probably not

Do you need an operating system?
no

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no

If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
psu i ve had good experiences with bequite and bad ones with cougar.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Germany

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Mindfactory.de most likely - there is also hardwareversand.de but don't know which to pick, if one knows a good seller i would be all ears thou.

I saw that the new gpus are just around the corner, could wait for it but would like to get an overall idea of how my rig could look like with my budget. could also buy now without gpu cuz i got a 970 in my old rig and buy the new gpu when they release. Appreciate your help.



http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KTJCpg. Price has been adjusted to mindfactory.de, so you still have around 400 EUR, which should be enough for GTX1070.

With that budget, you can pretty much go with the super standard skylake i7-6700k build, for streaming purpose, and it will handle pretty much any game you throw at it, no question.

Overclock is pretty much the same, beginner level or not, as long as you are not pushing to the extreme limit, but something like 4.5GHz is easily doable on 212 Evo.
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Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-22 14:14:33
May 22 2016 14:13 GMT
#11984
On May 22 2016 21:11 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
no one wanna help me out?

Something like this maybe:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (€340.30 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€30.79 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€147.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€86.84 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€92.74 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€61.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€125.41 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €885.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-22 16:13 CEST+0200

Edit: Seems someone else did yours while I was putting it together, but yeah he and I had the same thought you should save the money for GPU until you can buy a 1070.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
May 22 2016 14:28 GMT
#11985
Gonna ask here because headphone thread seem a bit dead,

I want to buy this headphone on Amazon, link here, and out of the 3 sellers only Sonic Electronix, Inc ships internationally. The one with the tag "Fulfillment by Amazon" does not ship to Singapore .

So is it generally safe to buy from Sonic Electronix, Inc, via Amazon or directly from their site? And how will warranty and return work if purchasing via Amazon?

Thanks
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Gullis
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden740 Posts
May 22 2016 15:02 GMT
#11986
What is your current build?

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930k CPU@ 3.20GHz (12CPUs),~3.2Hz
Memory: 61440MB RAM (I don't know how to check what kind it is, but if it is important I can try to open it up and check)
Motherboard: P9X79 WS
Graphics card: GeForce 210

What is your monitor's native resolution?
Gonna upgrade here, gonna get something like this one,
Acer 24" Predator GN246HL

Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
My dad brought the computer home from his work where it was used for software development, so it was never intended for gaming. But I was thinking if I slap on a better graphics card, maybe it would do for gaming?
Intended games StarCraft, The Witcher 3, Counter-strike, maybe some new titles?

What is your budget?
850 euro.

What country will you be buying your parts in?
Sweden.

I would rather eat than see my children starve.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 22 2016 19:27 GMT
#11987
On May 22 2016 23:28 bluegarfield wrote:
Gonna ask here because headphone thread seem a bit dead,

I want to buy this headphone on Amazon, link here, and out of the 3 sellers only Sonic Electronix, Inc ships internationally. The one with the tag "Fulfillment by Amazon" does not ship to Singapore .

So is it generally safe to buy from Sonic Electronix, Inc, via Amazon or directly from their site? And how will warranty and return work if purchasing via Amazon?

Thanks

Manufacturer warranty is the same regardless of seller. Return policy you should just check Amazon's site and the seller's profile page. Usually you have like 30 days to return something defective. You make claims through Amazon (which get sent to the seller) and if they're unresponsive/unhelpful then you can contact Amazon for help.
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bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
May 23 2016 03:00 GMT
#11988
^ Thx Craton
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 10:29:19
May 23 2016 10:25 GMT
#11989
are there already benchs out for 1070/80s - i got a 970 right now - probably a decent upgrade nontheless right? oh and of course thanks for the suggestions
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
May 23 2016 11:13 GMT
#11990
On May 23 2016 19:25 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
are there already benchs out for 1070/80s - i got a 970 right now - probably a decent upgrade nontheless right? oh and of course thanks for the suggestions

There are benchmarks already out for 1080, which show about 20-30% improvement over the strongest cards right now (980Ti,FuryX).
For 1070, there is only official specifications but no benchmarks, but from specs alone can expect something faster than current gen anyway, so definitely decent upgrade. But if you alrd have the 970, just use it, dont need to go to 1070 until you really need super high setting on 1440p or full VR support
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
May 23 2016 12:00 GMT
#11991
alright, gonna save the money and just reuse the 970 - thanks guys
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
EmKey
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)631 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 15:10:18
May 23 2016 14:13 GMT
#11992
Are there any upcoming next gen cpus in the future (say 3-12 months)? Im trying to decide whether i should upgrade my rig right now or later (currently have 2500k). Its not really urgent and im trying to get best bang for buck. The only games i play are lol and sc2 so obv nothing hi end.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 18:34:51
May 23 2016 18:34 GMT
#11993
On May 23 2016 23:13 EmKey wrote:
Are there any upcoming next gen cpus in the future (say 3-12 months)? Im trying to decide whether i should upgrade my rig right now or later (currently have 2500k). Its not really urgent and im trying to get best bang for buck. The only games i play are lol and sc2 so obv nothing hi end.


You're probably fine buying a 6600k for OC + fast RAM now, if you're interested in maxing out performance for those games and having a CPU that's a good choice for other workloads too.

AMD is releasing a new CPU gen around late q3 to q4 this year which is expected to have a bit worse core performance than Intel's CPU's (so shouldn't be replacing the 6600k for sc2) but will hopefully make good 6-8 core CPU's more affordable.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
May 23 2016 18:50 GMT
#11994
Hey guys,

Got some question again : what's better
- AMD FX 8350
- Intel i5-6500
?

Cause from what I read in benchmarking, they are roughly the same in term of performance (mb AMD a little better), but the fact that there's no integrated GPU just lower the marks a looooot.

So I was wondering if it's a big deal having no integrated GPU ? I mean, what's the deal with integrated GPU anyway ? When you plan having a GPU, integrated GPU is totally useless no ? Even for putting 2-3 screens ?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 23 2016 18:52 GMT
#11995
Most gamers won't use the IGPU at all. It can be handy if you're trying to exceed the 4 monitor limit of Nvidia cards or for diagnostic purposes when investigating graphic issues (e.g. plug something into IGPU instead of video card to rule out hardware problems).
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SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
May 23 2016 19:09 GMT
#11996
On May 24 2016 03:52 Craton wrote:
Most gamers won't use the IGPU at all. It can be handy if you're trying to exceed the 4 monitor limit of Nvidia cards or for diagnostic purposes when investigating graphic issues (e.g. plug something into IGPU instead of video card to rule out hardware problems).


Ye ok ty. But I don't think i'll take it noetheless cause it came in a kit with a mobo, and the mobo just supports DDR3, and i'd like to get a DDR4 supported mobo.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24341 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 19:39:49
May 23 2016 19:29 GMT
#11997
Think it's time to replace my ssd, just wondering if the sandisk ssd plus 240 gb
would be a value replacement or if there's a big reason to spend a bit more for a samsung or somthing?


Its mostly just to hold windows for fast restarts and such. Doesn't need to be high performance, reliability and lifespan would be more important than performance/specs for me. Don't need the best, just the best value if that helps
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
EmKey
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)631 Posts
May 23 2016 19:48 GMT
#11998
On May 24 2016 04:29 GreenHorizons wrote:
Think it's time to replace my ssd, just wondering if the sandisk ssd plus 240 gb
would be a value replacement or if there's a big reason to spend a bit more for a samsung or somthing?


Its mostly just to hold windows for fast restarts and such. Doesn't need to be high performance, reliability and lifespan would be more important than performance/specs for me. Don't need the best, just the best value if that helps


I think Samsung 850 Evo is your best bet. They come in 250,500 and 1tb versions. However i dont know whats the difference in everyday performance between some first gen ssd and this one.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24341 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 19:54:12
May 23 2016 19:53 GMT
#11999
On May 24 2016 04:48 EmKey wrote:
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On May 24 2016 04:29 GreenHorizons wrote:
Think it's time to replace my ssd, just wondering if the sandisk ssd plus 240 gb
would be a value replacement or if there's a big reason to spend a bit more for a samsung or somthing?


Its mostly just to hold windows for fast restarts and such. Doesn't need to be high performance, reliability and lifespan would be more important than performance/specs for me. Don't need the best, just the best value if that helps


I think Samsung 850 Evo is your best bet. They come in 250,500 and 1tb versions. However i dont know whats the difference in everyday performance between some first gen ssd and this one.

I appreciate the response. What would you say Id be getting for the additional ~$26 Compared to the sandisk option?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
EmKey
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)631 Posts
May 23 2016 20:31 GMT
#12000
They are slightly faster but for slightly higher price. Evo 850 is probably more popular. With sandisk you will get probably slightly better performance/$ value. samsung has 5 year warranty while sandisk has 3 years but sandisk claims more longevity (not sure how truthful are numbers given by manufacturers). Just google "sandisk ssd plus 240 gb vs evo 850" and see whats important for you - reading, writing, warranty length
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