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Kupon3ss
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Cyro
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Kupon3ss
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jxx
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Where are you buying from? A lot of case manufacturers have better retail presence in some countries than others. What price? On the high end there's the Silverstone FT05. At a price more people are willing to pay, the Fractal Design Define R5 and Define S. If you need cheaper than that, it depends. | ||
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jxx
Brazil307 Posts
i5 3570k with Hyper 212x cooler MSi GTX 970 I'm from Brazil - I just wanted to get some recommendations of cases and I'll have to search for them here, or buy from an external retailer and pay twice the actual price cause taxes so w/e. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
These cases will have lighting to signal power on or maybe the hard drive, but that's only if you plug in the relevant connector to power those LEDs. | ||
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TheMooseHeed
United Kingdom535 Posts
Really liking the look of Witcher so thought I would upgrade my gpu to play it (Currently on a HD7770 from a while back). Running an overclocked 2500k with a Super Flower 400W Golden Green Pro 80plus on a ASRock P67 Pro3 (B3), Sockel 1155, ATX board. Taking a look at whats currently out there and I am coming up with either an R9 280/290 or a GTX 960. GTX 770 is also in my mind but doesnt seem much better on benchmarks costwise compared to the 960 (the 960 is a 4GB varient) Looking to play it on relatively high settings but not chasing perfection. The 290 seems huge so may not even fit in my case but as long as someone could confirm whether these cards could run off my rig and are compatible I can do the rest. If anyone else has a better recommendation I am all ears. Thanks. | ||
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mantequilla
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TheMooseHeed
United Kingdom535 Posts
On May 26 2015 02:32 mantequilla wrote: What resolution? 1920 X 1080 | ||
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Banaora
Germany234 Posts
On May 26 2015 00:49 TheMooseHeed wrote: Quick question if anyone has any advice. Really liking the look of Witcher so thought I would upgrade my gpu to play it (Currently on a HD7770 from a while back). Running an overclocked 2500k with a Super Flower 400W Golden Green Pro 80plus on a ASRock P67 Pro3 (B3), Sockel 1155, ATX board. Taking a look at whats currently out there and I am coming up with either an R9 280/290 or a GTX 960. GTX 770 is also in my mind but doesnt seem much better on benchmarks costwise compared to the 960 (the 960 is a 4GB varient) Looking to play it on relatively high settings but not chasing perfection. The 290 seems huge so may not even fit in my case but as long as someone could confirm whether these cards could run off my rig and are compatible I can do the rest. If anyone else has a better recommendation I am all ears. Thanks. In my opinion you definately should keep the power consumption in mind when buying a new GPU. You only have a 400W PSU and already overclock your CPU. For your information: TDP of your current card HD7770 is 80W, TDP for R9 280/290 is 200W/275W respectively the GTX960 uses a maximum of 120W. So I would say go with that or with the GTX970 if you have the money which uses a maximum of 145W. | ||
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TheMooseHeed
United Kingdom535 Posts
I will go with the 960 or 970. What would a 4gb version of the 960 get me over the 2gb one? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
On May 26 2015 02:53 Banaora wrote: In my opinion you definately should keep the power consumption in mind when buying a new GPU. You only have a 400W PSU and already overclock your CPU. For your information: TDP of your current card HD7770 is 80W, TDP for R9 280/290 is 200W/275W respectively the GTX960 uses a maximum of 120W. So I would say go with that or with the GTX970 if you have the money which uses a maximum of 145W. The TDP isn't that representative of power consumption, especially since they get the 960 TDP from using a high clock speed and the 970 TDP from using a low one. You really need ~200w available for a 970 at a normal OC (~1500mhz, not ~1250mhz) 970 is about the limit of what i would say for that PSU. 290 no way. 280/280x maybe What would a 4gb version of the 960 get me over the 2gb one? Not that much, considering your GPU is only half as powerful as a 980. It'd mess up your price/performance ratio's a lot, but allow you to turn up texture quality settings etc. It wouldn't improve FPS. | ||
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Banaora
Germany234 Posts
On May 26 2015 03:20 TheMooseHeed wrote: Yeah it's a fair point about the PSU. It was mentioned somewhere that they usually overestimate the power draw of components to take into account poor PSU's and I do have a good quality one. I ran a 6780 for a while that a broke and that recommended a 500w PSU. I will go with the 960 or 970. What would a 4gb version of the 960 get me over the 2gb one? Because you mentioned Witcher 3 have a look at this benchmark slide http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/the-witcher-3-graphics-performance-review,9.html It shows that even at really high resolutions the Witcher 3 will not use more than 2GB of VRAM. With a single monitor and a resolution of 1920 X 1080 I'd say 2GB is enough also for other games. @Cyro: You are absolutely correct. I knew TDP values are for reference design only without overclock. What I didn't take into consideration is that with some manufacture-overclocked gtx970 cards on sale power consumption can get as high as 240W under stress which I would consider dangerously high for a 400W PSU especially with an already overclocked CPU. The 240W is from http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,3941-12.html and for the Gigabyte GTX970 Windforce OC. | ||
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TheMooseHeed
United Kingdom535 Posts
Cheapest I can find is scan for £143 which seems reasonable. Any make recommendations or just go for the cheapest? *One other question. Are these ram modules exactly the same? Corsair Memory 4GB DDR3 4GB Corsair Valueselect DDR3 As far as I can tell they are Back when I bought my first lot from Hardware only got a single instead of a double by mistake so I thought I might as well get the second while I am ordering from scan. | ||
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Banaora
Germany234 Posts
Can't recommend any specific GTX960 card as I don't know the details. | ||
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CaM27
Belgium392 Posts
I want to replace my old gfx card with a mid range card. Here are my specs: i7 2.6k @ 3.2 ghz 12g ram ddr3 550ti My old 550 ti is using a pci express 2.0 x16. I want to replace it with a 750ti that is using a pci express 3.0 x16. My case is medion (prebuild pc). Would it work? Do i need to check more thnigs to see if this graphic card is going to work. I also need to change my power supply, What do you recommend at how many watts? 500w? Thanks a lot, it's for running the witcher 3 at mid settings. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
On May 26 2015 07:33 CaM27 wrote: Hi everyone, I want to replace my old gfx card with a mid range card. Here are my specs: i7 2.6k @ 3.2 ghz 12g ram ddr3 550ti My old 550 ti is using a pci express 2.0 x16. I want to replace it with a 750ti that is using a pci express 3.0 x16. My case is medion (prebuild pc). Would it work? Do i need to check more thnigs to see if this graphic card is going to work. I also need to change my power supply, What do you recommend at how many watts? 500w? Thanks a lot, it's for running the witcher 3 at mid settings. Power consumption would be more like 200w for whole system, but it's hard to find quality PSU's of that low capacity. They're usually ~400-450w 750ti is a bit low. Maybe consider a 960? We already have high end cards that are 2-3x faster than a 960 when overclocked equally (980 and Titan X) Also, PCI-E bandwidth doesn't matter like that. 2.0 x8 will give you the same FPS as 3.0 x16 even with a high end GPU. You'd need to make sure the GPU fit in case, and then maybe take a look at airflow since a lot of prebuilt cases are just boxes with no meaningful airflow, though those tier GPU's output very little heat (~60-130w) | ||
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CaM27
Belgium392 Posts
On May 26 2015 07:59 Cyro wrote: Power consumption would be more like 200w for whole system, but it's hard to find quality PSU's of that low capacity. They're usually ~400-450w 750ti is a bit low. Maybe consider a 960? We already have high end cards that are 2-3x faster than a 960 when overclocked equally (980 and Titan X) Also, PCI-E bandwidth doesn't matter like that. 2.0 x8 will give you the same FPS as 3.0 x16 even with a high end GPU. You'd need to make sure the GPU fit in case, and then maybe take a look at airflow since a lot of prebuilt cases are just boxes with no meaningful airflow, though those tier GPU's output very little heat (~60-130w) Hey Cyro, this is my old PSU: http://images.esellerpro.com/2131/I/770/64/DSCF3691.JPG I'm a bit confused because tomorrow a technician should come and fix my pc and wonder how much it gonna cost me for new psu + installation. (My pc is not starting anymore, could be anything but i think it's the psu as my screen works but my computer is not running, nothing). I will need to make sure the GPU fix in the case? I just need to check the dimensions of my old one with the one i'm gonna change right? About the 960, is the 2go worth it or are you speaking about the 4go one? About the airflow i have my case open and i cool it down with a vent sometimes? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
yea, you should be able to compare maybe. If not, maybe measure? I usually just refer to the case information on whatever manufacturer website, but that sounds like it could be difficult for a random case on a prebuilt system 2gb 960 is better performance per euro. The comparable card to that is the r9 280, which is a bit stronger and similar price, even has 3GB of VRAM but it uses more power (more heat etc). That's probably overall a better buy for a lot of people. Paying the extra money to double up on VRAM on a card is usually bad - it allows you to raise settings like texture quality, but it doesn't actually improve FPS. The extra cost for the memory is usually quite a lot, so it's often better to just buy a stronger card that has more VRAM in the stock configuration anyway if 2GB isn't enough for you (like a 3.5GB 970) | ||
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