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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
There's guides out there (look on overclock.net) and Gumbi might help you out some here | ||
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On September 12 2013 04:02 Maasked wrote: So I am receiving my AMD 7950 today since my GTX 560 is basically dead (its lasted so very long T_T) Im wondering what to use to overclock it, and what overclock settings I should use. I think the standard clock it comes at is 900Mhz What model is it? (Specifically; link would be handiest). Download MSI Afterburner or Sapphire Trixx. Download GPUZ too, that's handy for checking VRM temps (if your card has a VRM temp sensor). Download Unigine Valley, it'll act as a stability test as well as a benching programme (so you can quantify you gains, if any). | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
The new and revised OP is also impressively massive and thorough. | ||
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DaHui2
United States25 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On September 12 2013 09:20 DaHui2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I am looking to get an SSD and was wondering whether this is a good deal or not. Kingston 120gb SSD It'd do for a budget SSD but nothing hot about that price. | ||
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Maasked
United States567 Posts
That is what I got. Downloading programs now. After about 10 minutes of having the card in w/Drivers I started getting firefox to constantly crash. Then it bluescreened with error 0x124 Then the reboot gave an error named 0xc000000f I hate AMD... Please advise | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
This is what I am currently looking at possibly purchasing to build my next computer. My current PC is 3yrs old now and I'm looking at some upcoming games in the next year+ that I'd like to guarantee I can play. Star Citizen being primary on that. I realize also that I may just want to wait but I figured at this point I would window shop so to speak and see what I could come up with. I'm not sure if I should get a heatsink, I contemplated a 2nd GPU, Powersupply is pretty big I gather. I'm not sure if I can cannibalize my current optical drive which is a blue ray player and just use that. I was willing to spend $1500 so I've come in vastly under what I thought, which is cool but is also why I contemplated adding a 2nd GPU lol. Also I've never used AMD cards only Nvidia. I'm nervous if AMD is the right pick. I was planning on overclocking stuff mostly b/c I've never OC stuff in my life and I think it'd be a nice learning experience. Wasn't planning on going extreme OC though. Any thoughts are welcome or if you just want to tell me to hold my horses and build one closer to when I have a game out that I want to max that's cool too. Thanks! | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
If you want to pay some more, the Arc Midi R2 is built around similar ideas and shipping with all 140mm fans. It's wider to have space for that 140mm fan in the back, which also makes it a safe choice for very large CPU air coolers. The Define R4 is related to the Arc Midi R2 but is using sound dampening and a front door, ships with one less fan (to keep the price similar I assume). That case is sold in different colors and with or without window, so it seems sometimes you can find a good deal on an unpopular look. For the CPU cooler Noctua NH-U14S (does not fit in most cheap cases) or NH-U12S (smaller) seem to be good choices with the prices of the competition in the US. They are very solid performance and easiest to use mounting system. Air cooling is good for saving some money as the strong air coolers compete well with the cheap all-in-one water stuff which is still more expensive. The cooler itself will also never break. For the graphics card and its overclocking, you should probably research the cooling of the various cards. If you skip the second GPU, those three slot wide Asus cards sound like a neat idea to me considering cooling performance and noise. The graphics card will be the loudest thing in your PC, so this choice is the most important if you care about noise. You shouldn't research too much just now, as the release of some new graphics cards from AMD are around the corner. Which manufacturer uses the best parts for overclocking might change. For PSU, the Rosewill Capstone 450W is good for a single card. Look for something that can do 400W on 12V for a single card. For a lot of PSUs the other unimportant lines are added to the watts number. The PSU you chose and the Capstone are not cheating like that. Always check for a review where the PSU gets opened and the quality of the parts used inside gets judged. | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On September 12 2013 12:15 Maasked wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121716 That is what I got. Downloading programs now. After about 10 minutes of having the card in w/Drivers I started getting firefox to constantly crash. Then it bluescreened with error 0x124 Then the reboot gave an error named 0xc000000f I hate AMD... Please advise Did you run driversweeper before installing the new AMD drivers? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
However I've been reading reviews about it and I'm starting to wonder whether my graphics card will fit in the case. The ASUS gtx 760 is apparently pretty thick, it uses 2 slots for extra cooling. To quote asus.fr (I can't access asus.com for some reason): [quote]Pour un meilleur refroidissement, la carte graphique GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5 étend son radiateur à 2 slots. Nous conseillons donc aux utilisateurs de de vérifier si leur carte mère et leur châssis disposent de l'espace nécessaire pour son utilisation. Should I just go with the Fractal Design Core 3000? I'm starting to think I should for a couple reasons. First of all, I want to make sure that all my components actually fit in the case. I'm pretty sure that FDC 3000 will do the job no problem, less sure about about FCD 1000. Second, the FCD 1000 doesn't have USB 3.0 support, at least not in France. Since the motherboard I'm getting has USB 3.0, wouldn't be a waste to have a case that doesn't use that? USB 3.0 is better than USB 2.0 in terms of file transfer speed, correct? Third, since I'm not getting an aftermarket cooler (I won't be overclocking), I'll be using stock coolers. The FCD 1000 is said to have meh cooling, whereas the FCD 3000 seems to boast more fans and better airflow due to more space inside the case. So its cooling is relatively good, which would help with the fact that I don't have an aftermarket cooler. So are these three arguments viable in terms of justifying the extra expenses of getting the Fractal Design Core 3000 ? Or am I actually fine getting the FCD 1000 ? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
So its cooling is relatively good, which would help with the fact that I don't have an aftermarket cooler. That's not really true so much, it helps a bit but not anywhere near the scale that a mid tier or even lower aftermarket CPU cooler would, keep that in mind. Maybe the inside of your case only gets 5c hotter with gpu load now instead of 10c hotter than outside room temps. That's a 5c difference in CPU temperature, which means very little at that level of cooling. The stock cooler is really terrible, it runs to temps hotter than i'd take an overclock in everyday programs and there's no way you can run stress tests on it on stock cpu settings | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
All the relatively high-end cards are dual slot. Core 3000 pricing is so similar to the Define R4, Define Mini, Arc Midi R2, and Arc Mini, it's not an attractive option. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? As low as possible, under 700€ if possible. What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? SC2, maybe some Dota2. Crysis 3, Far Cry 3, Bioshock infinite, Skyrim on high settings but NOT necessarily ultra settings. Also, more importantly, Il-2: BoS, Il-2: CloD and War Thunder. The Total War series. Games that are CPU intensive but not necessarily GPU intensive. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Browsing the internet, maybe some streaming, maybe making some videos for the sim games. NB: I know that I'd need another HDD for proper video recording. Do you intend to overclock? No. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No. Do you need an operating system? No. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Um, the most cost-efficient ones. xD What country will you be buying your parts in? France If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. 100% Amazon please, unless some other retailer offers much better prices or something, which I doubt. I understand your point about stock coolers being terrible, but am I really going to stress the i5 to the point where it needs to be cooled? I'm not going to overclock and as far as I know most games won't really put that big a load on the CPU. I don't want to get an aftermarket cooler because it adds to the already growing cost of my system. This seems to indicate that I'm all right without aftermarket cooler, but it's better to have more sources: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/309475-28-intel-stock-heatsink-insufficient Edit: @ SkyR so you would recommend sticking with the Fractal Design Core 1000 ? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
Two slots for a graphics card is normal nowadays. Compare that to this one: http://wccftech.com/asus-radeon-hd-7970-directcu-ii-top-spotted-wild-runs-1010mhz-stock-core-clock/ That 3 slot wide monster would also fit inside the Core1000 just fine. You should think about your motherboard. You wouldn't have access to the only other slot on your board where you could fit a sound card or whatever. This works fine with a normal two slot wide card. The Core 1000 is mATX size. Your board is mATX size. The Core 3000 is ATX size. Your motherboard will fit inside the Core 1000 just like it does in the Core 3000. There's no extra room to use for the graphics card. The USB 3.0 is about the slots on the front panel. Personally, I need it. I have some USB 3.0 devices I carry around and want to use at full speed, so I want to use the front panel for those, not the USB3.0 on the board at the back of the case. If you don't care about this or have easy access to the back of your case, you could save money with a case that only has USB 2.0 in the front. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
You guys know so much. ^^ Anyway as for the cooler I think I won't be getting one. I mean, I don't think it's worth it on a system that won't be overclocked. What would you guys do? | ||
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Chewits
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On September 12 2013 18:48 Incognoto wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Anyway as for the cooler I think I won't be getting one. I mean, I don't think it's worth it on a system that won't be overclocked. What would you guys do? Stock heatsink is fine if you're getting a cheap case and not overclocking. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On September 12 2013 18:48 Incognoto wrote: Anyway as for the cooler I think I won't be getting one. I mean, I don't think it's worth it on a system that won't be overclocked. What would you guys do? I wouldn't buy a cooler. If it's not looking good, you can always buy one later. Same with a case fan. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On September 12 2013 19:35 Ropid wrote: I wouldn't buy a cooler. If it's not looking good, you can always buy one later. Same with a case fan. You have to take out the motherboard, and by extension (especially being in a matx case) have to take out everything else to mount the cooler. So keep that in mind. Also, as some anecdotal evidence with a recent build being almost identical (760/4670/neo eco 450C + core 1000), the case seemed really hard to mount the hdds nicely, and cable routing was horrrendous :/. If I were to do it again, I'd get a better mATX case and probably a fully modular PSU just so that the inside wasn't completely full of cable spam blocking everything ^^. I didn't put an aftermarket cooler on either :D | ||
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