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KwarK
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Myrmidon
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KwarK
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Myrmidon
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Anyway, I think this is in the range of things you could just send in for RMA if still under warranty. But it seems like the heatsink on the graphics card is probably just loose (some more info about symptoms, a picture, fan rpms, etc. could maybe confirm it more). You could take the card out, unscrew and remove the heatsink, and put it back on securely and see if that helps. Technically it would definitely be better to remove the old thermal paste while doing so and apply new paste, but you might be able to significantly improve things without doing so, if this is indeed the problem. It's not too uncommon for this to happen if bumping a card in transit or moving between systems or something. If it's the fan on the graphics card heatsink that's damaged, it's hard to find a replacement for just that fan because of the nonstandard size. In either of those two cases or anything else wrong with the cooling on the graphics card, it is possible to buy third-party cooling products for those. You'd take off the old heatsink and put on the new one (clean residual paste off the GPU before putting on the new one). However, you need to be careful in checking compatibility for those. And even if the reference HD 6670 is supported, your card may or may not have a reference design and you might need to check that. e.g. this, a bit overkill for a HD 6670 but reasonable | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
Here's the manufacturer's page about that cooler: http://www.arctic.ac/de_en/products/cooling/vga/accelero-l2-plus.html It's $20 on newegg.com. It would be some sort of handicrafts project taking up a bunch of hours of work, perhaps a night of waiting on the glue to harden if you put those tiny heat-sinks on the RAM chips and stuff. The HD 6670 was a very modest card when it was new. In a vaguely similar place in the current market, there's the brand new GTX 750 and GTX 750 Ti you might want to look at. Those are about $120 and about $150 in the US it seems. They seem to be pretty great and quite powerful so probably more than you need. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
A 7770 is less than €100 and would probably outclassa 6670 by a large margin? Oh it's USA. It should be around $100 I guess but honestly those 750s are close in terms of price and look like great cards. I'm probably going to pick up a 750 (maybe Ti) myself in the near future to put into my old Q6600 rig. | ||
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Broetchenholer
Germany1963 Posts
On February 21 2014 00:02 Ropid wrote: I guess Intel ends up cheaper because any cheap board is still good, you don't need a cooler, and you can't use fast RAM on the locked CPUs so can save a little there as well. Here's an example from mindfactory.de (like in your list, a case is missing): http://i.imgur.com/0KmuHNW.png If you choose an i7-4770 as Star Citizen might use the eight threads, you're at 820 €. After choosing a case, you would be at 900 €. If you want to use all of your 1000 € budget, you could then choose a different graphics card or you could keep the money as you still need to buy a monitor and stuff. Okay, so as the listed stuff up there hasn't created any dispute by now, it seems you experts all agree on the basics outlined here. Which means, go with an i7-4770 or an i5-4670, put any cheap motherboard under it, 8 GB DDR3-1600 11 RAM are completely sufficient, keep the boxed cooler and invest in a good graphics card. As i don't need a case, my chieftain is like a tank, i won't have to replace it, ever, and the peripherals are already here as well, maybe except for the monitor, that leaves me at ~ 500 € to spend on a graphics card and i will match 1000€ that's crazy. So i could either do that: http://imgur.com/iHQNOgs Or that: http://imgur.com/xeNmfdg Both configurations would be around 1000€, which one would be less balanced? Is the R9 series at least worth the money compared to nvidea? And would those too be comparable to the much more expensive rig that my friend suggested? | ||
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KwarK
United States44190 Posts
Thanks kind sirs. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20341 Posts
On February 21 2014 06:29 Broetchenholer wrote: Okay, so as the listed stuff up there hasn't created any dispute by now, it seems you experts all agree on the basics outlined here. Which means, go with an i7-4770 or an i5-4670, put any cheap motherboard under it, 8 GB DDR3-1600 11 RAM are completely sufficient, keep the boxed cooler and invest in a good graphics card. As i don't need a case, my chieftain is like a tank, i won't have to replace it, ever, and the peripherals are already here as well, maybe except for the monitor, that leaves me at ~ 500 € to spend on a graphics card and i will match 1000€ that's crazy. So i could either do that: http://imgur.com/iHQNOgs Or that: http://imgur.com/xeNmfdg Both configurations would be around 1000€, which one would be less balanced? Is the R9 series at least worth the money compared to nvidea? And would those too be comparable to the much more expensive rig that my friend suggested? The reference 290 and 290x cooler is terrible, you really won't want one. You need an aftermarket cooler, Sapphire Tri-X is the best one on air. You >should< be able to find one of these at ~370 euro, maybe 400 if you have to If you don't care particularly for CPU power, you want i5 over i7 100% as it's just way better price to performance. Where HT (i7 feature) helps performance, it's still nowhere near making up for the increased cost. If you >do< care for CPU power enough to be doing this for +20% CPU performance in some cases, you'd be overclocking or buying a professional-tier processor that has more cores for such loads (but is weaker per-core so worse for gaming etc); so it's a weird niche for stock i7. Likewise, the r9 290x is only ~3-4% better than the 290 at the same clock speed, it's a ridiculous proposal for value, costing often >20% more. Value choice is aftermarket cooled gtx780 or r9 290. Big monster card is 780ti but it's just a 780 with 15smx and faster VRAM, it costs more than the performance it gives (being usually like ~30% more cost yet only up to ~20% stronger on air and more dependent on case cooling). However, if this build is for a 2015 game, all of these GPU's will be obsolete by then. | ||
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Broetchenholer
Germany1963 Posts
 With aftermarket cooler, you mean buying the R9 from sapphire and not whatever i put in y example for the card, not taking the actual cooler of the card and putting another one on it. I did that once and it did not please me in the slightest :DSo right now, following these guidelines, i would buy my system for ~900€, that's a fair price for relative power i would get for current games. Guess i wil still wait for the next generation of graphic cards and maybe the next processors as well, but thx for the input, maybe my guts will tell me to buy this weekend and i then i will have a good idea what i want | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20341 Posts
gl ^.^ edit: And yes of course, just buying like sapphire tri-x 290 As an example of a UK retailer, scroll down here: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=56&subid=1752 There's a bunch of different companies/partners/whatever with different cooler designs selling the GPU's - normally having a reference AMD cooler is not the end of the world, but 290/290x/780/780ti are high power cards and AMD's design is particularly insufficient. It's a complete joke compared to other options (and tri-x is, to my knowledge, the better designed of the custom coolers sold for the 290/290x) | ||
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Wala.Revolution
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Review of P2414H here: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_p2414h.htm | ||
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Wala.Revolution
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Kyenc
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I'm building the PC in Malaysia and prices are from https://forum.lowyat.net/ Processor (CPU) – Intel Core i5-4670K (RM 768) Motherboard – GIGABYTE G1.Sniper Z87 (RM 550) / MSI Z87-G45 Gaming (RM 559) / ASROCK Z87 Extreme 4 (RM520) / GIGABYTE GA-Z87-D3HP (RM 489) / ASUS Z87-K (RM 520) Memory (RAM) – G.Skill RIPJAWS F3-2133C9D-8GXL (2X4GB) DDR3 2133 MHz (RM 319) Video Card (GPU) – ASUS R9 280X Direct CU II Top (RM 1299) / Sapphire R9 280X Toxic (RM 1299) / ASUS GTX770 Direct CU II OC (RM 1499) Primary Storage – Samsung 840 EVO 250GB (RM 309) Secondary Storage – Western Digital 500 MB Blue (RM 160) Power Supply (PSU) – Super Flower Golden Green HX500M (RM 255) Heatsink – Noctua NH-D14 (RM 280) / Noctua NH-U12S (RM 279) / Thermalright Archon SB-E X2 (RM 255) Case – NZXT Phantom 410 (RM 325) / Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (RM 370) | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Kyenc
United Kingdom4 Posts
Would it be wiser to swap to a smaller heatsink like the Noctua NH-D14 or using the Arc Midi R2 given that the price difference is very minimal. | ||
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skyR
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TIIFB37.png) Looking at that picture, I'm worried about the memory sticks. I think the Archon is fatter and there's no room to move the fan up at all in the case. EDIT: I looked up the numbers and it's not really fatter than the TS140. | ||
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