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On October 02 2013 03:37 [S9] taeZaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 01:03 llIH wrote:On September 27 2013 03:48 [S9] taeZaKi wrote:Hi, I'm on a budget for $300 USD or less. Is DXRacer worth the money? As a college student working on programming I'm at my desk all day, and my hard, flat wooden chair just gives me pain. I prefer something that has a tall area for the back (like DXRacer). I do like the reclining feature of it. I don't mind either flashy or conservative. Always open for recommendations. Thanks. EDIT: Wish this was purchasable from the US: http://www.dxracer.net/art65_dxracer-chair-oh-f08-nb.html Why are certain chairs region locked?  Also how's the IKEA Markus? Why do you like a tall back? The DXRacer has horrible adjustments. Sure the padding is good. But I would never waste my money on a chair like that. Just use a little more money and save on other stuff and get a chair that you will not need to replace every 1-2 years. In my opinion of course. Thanks for replying. Basically I just like having something to lay most of my back on. My bed is a room away from my desk, so I would like to have the luxury of just sitting back. That said, it is not a priority. Just if I could choose, I'd get a tall back one.
Ok I understand.
Then you have a dilemma, from how I see it. skyR knows much more on this than me. But I feel for ergonomics - a low back would make more sense to support your spine. Since if you have a tall back, without a lumbar support design - you will rest your upper back on the chair top area - and slouch with your lower back area. When you get more tired from sitting straight, you will slouch more, your pelvis will tilt more - even more slouching. (Don't get me wrong I am not trying to talk crap about your idea!  ) I am just trying to tell you what will help your back the most.
I have been studying like a madman for several years now. And I developed back pain because of exactly what I described. I started lifting heavier weights. Emphasizing Deadlift and squats! (Im 185cm/73Kg deadlift 5x5 80Kg) That with combination of getting an ergonomic chair with depth adjustment and lumbar support. --- With lumbar support the chair will keep your lower back in the "correct" position. Your upper back with rest vertically on your spine, like balancing on a stick, instead of bending forward making your posterior neck muscles (sub-occipital muscles) having constant tension to hold your head up like a crane.
Hope this helped a little. And I would love to hear skyR's opinion on this. I have a lot of respect for him because of his unbiased and scientific work on this thread.
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It's exactly how you put it. High backs are beneficial for reclining but there still needs to be proper lumbar support. High back chairs like the Markus and DXRacer simply don't have the adjustments or proper lumbar support so you'll typically end up slouching.
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skyR
I feel the lumbar support design of the Ergohuman chairs look kind of weak. There is something off when I look at it. The design does not look very promising, if you think from an engineer's point of view (If that is possible...)
The chairs you recommended personally were the Steelcase leap and some other one I cant recall.
How do you personally feel the lumbar supports works for you. And does it in some way regulate? Can it feel too stiff or too soft(this soft one is what I fear the ergohuman might feel like)?
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Unlike a lot of chairs, you can adjust how stiff or soft the lower back is on the Leap. I don't have an issue with it.
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Hello, I'm currently on a chair hunt... And so logically first place to come for me is here...
Although the advice here blows my mind... My current chair feels great, but by the standards here it'd be utter crap. The reason why I am wanting to upgrade my chair is because (as you can see below) the stitching on the top left part of the chair started to rip, and no longer offers proper back support. I'm certain I paid no more than 50-100 dollars though, although it was a while back (People said you don't want to buy something cheap and have to replace it in a year or two... lol? This thing was cheap and lasted 8 years +). My chair goes up and down, and it also reclines about 30 degrees down.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2qT8lJl.jpg)
Okay, maybe I'm being harsh, and a 500-1000 chair is really something amazing, but it seems absolutely ridiculous. The other thing is oh, adjustable this, adjustable that... Isn't that a waste of money too? I don't ever see myself having to adjust anything in a chair... Once I try it, and it fits me well, I likely wont change those setting for the remaining lifetime of a chair. With all that considered, and my clear scepticality of expensive chairs... I hope someone would be willing to help me.
My budget... Well I suppose $600, but I would appreciate some honest to god advice, and that if $600 is not necessary, I would really not like to spend that much unless improvements are that significant. I do not have issues buying used off of kijiji, or buying refurbished. I am a 190lb~ and 176cm(bit below 5'10), quite fit. I probably spend 2-5 hours a day on my computer, so a good chair for whether it's work/school/gaming related is what I'm looking for.
Some of the most expensive chairs I've seen on kijiji, they are all $100-$200 dollars, and most seem pretty acceptable to me:
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-furniture-chairs-recliners-Fully-adjustable-ergonomic-office-chair-W0QQAdIdZ530207966
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-furniture-chairs-recliners-Office-chair-W0QQAdIdZ530673686
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-furniture-chairs-recliners-Brand-New-Office-Chair-W0QQAdIdZ530637838
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-furniture-chairs-recliners-Ultra-soft-leather-office-chairs-W0QQAdIdZ528927734
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-furniture-chairs-recliners-Beautiful-New-Leather-Office-Chair-W0QQAdIdZ528593871
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The common complaint with cheap chairs is that the seat cushion is too thin and wears out too quickly. People don't like sitting on an uncomfortable hard surface, that's why they're replaced. And while on the topic of seats, that seat doesn't seem comfortable.
Individuals have varying body shapes and preferences, it's why a chair needs intuitive adjustments. Take your chair for example with no adjustments at all besides height. Someone who is taller than you would not have thigh support and someone shorter would cut off circulation to their legs. The back is basically worthless since the lumbar support isn't adjustable so if you're not the perfect height than you're screwed. Your reason for wanting a new chair is sort of silly since the back either provides support or it doesn't. If the fabric is falling off than just reupholster it and it'll be good as new. The armrests are also useless as it provides no support for someone who is thinner than you and encourages bad posture for someone who is not your height. We can go on and on.
I'm pretty sure that's an Office Star chair so you could just buy another one for $100 if you're perfectly happy with it.
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Thanks for the responses.
After some thinking, I'm seriously considering the Leap or Ergohuman. Might as well just get out of the chair and walk to my room to my bed anyway if I wanted to lay down. Which do you prefer of the two?
Getting a bit desperate too. My back feels like it gets worse and worse the more I sit in this monster: http://i.imgur.com/fseBaeD.jpg
You can probably imagine the pain I'm in, haha.
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Steelcase is having their 15% annual sale so the Leap right now is ~$760. Shipping is free both ways in the US so if you don't like it than you can just return it at no cost. Ergohuman on the other hand is not so nice.
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The leap sounds and looks like the smartest buy.
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skyR. Is there any chair that you feel is competing with the Leap or do you think it is the one chair?
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There's probably lots of chairs that compete with the Leap but availability for them is a big problem. Ergohuman is probably just as good as the Leap if you don't care about warranty or if the shipping doesn't cost you half the chair.
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I just dont like the design of the lumbar support of the Ergohuman. It looks very thin and I can almost not immagine how you are supposed to sit in a correct position in it. I noticed that from the reviews too.
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In the videos. The people sitting in the Ergohuman chairs - always end up in an angle. Almost like leaning backwards. Pelvis tilted in every picture.
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Is it possible to remove the arm rests or at least depress them enough my elbows will not touch them? Aimed especially for gaming sessions.
(Ok it appreas as if I am spamming. Just look at the dates to make sure you don't ban me. As I am not spamming or trying to mess up the thread.)
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I don't think they are easily removeable but you can get them without armrests.
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Thinking about buying a herman miller aeron or a steelcase leap. Since my crappy staples chair is falling apart (cant even adjust height anymore and the leather is just slowly disintegrating)
There is a place near by me that repairs Aerons and sells em refurbished for $500.
Is it worth it to just grab it new?
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Worth is subjective. If you're not sure whether you like the chair, want warranty, want the ability to return, and not deal with upholstering or replacing than buy new.
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skyR what is your opinion on Aeron vs Leap?
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Aeron seat depth isn't adjustable, don't like that the arms are attached to the back, don't like mesh, and it's like $200 more expensive than the Leap.
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