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Has anyone had any success in setting up a heart rate monitor to display during streaming of gameplay? I'm sure some of you have but I have yet to discover a successful solution or hardware set up. So far I have purchased nothing and was looking to inquire as to what may be needed for such a thing to happen.
I would like the heart rate to display as any Overlay would. I currently stream Starcraft 2: Heart of the Swarm on both PC and Mac through XSplit and Adobe Flash Live Media Encoder.
Any advice would be very welcomed.
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meh, its kinda cool in a way. I know i'm a very nervous person when I play so in engagements or in any "big match" situation my heart rate would probably be over 9000.
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You should practice your reading comprehension before you make a TL post.
He didn't ask for a link to hardware. He asked if anyone had success streaming pulse as an overlay during a stream while gaming.
Your opinion doesn't really matter either. I've seen pulse being displayed before, primarily during live poker matches, but I've seen it used elsewhere also.
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Sentient42, we've never met but thank you for saying what you have in my defense. You are spot on.
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On June 14 2013 07:55 Sentient42 wrote:
He didn't ask for a link to hardware. He asked if anyone had success streaming pulse as an overlay during a stream while gaming.
On June 14 2013 06:47 wtfchuck wrote:
Has anyone had any success in setting up a heart rate monitor to display during streaming of gameplay? I'm sure some of you have but I have yet to discover a successful solution or hardware set up. So far I have purchased nothing and was looking to inquire as to what may be needed for such a thing to happen.
You should practice your reading comprehension before you make a TL post.
He literally asks for hardware suggestions in the bolded part. :|
Plus, the overlay part seems like the easiest part by far-- I imagine the problem is finding hardware that allows you to create an overlay in the first place. You can't just use any regular heart monitor because you would need it to display realtime data on your computer (unless you just want to point a webcam at a heart rate monitor).
For the overlay, you would need to use a screen region (if you have a second monitor, Window Capture with Aero enabled might work with a single monitor) to display it on top of your stream. The overlay would be pretty easy to setup, but like I said, you need to find a heart rate monitor that would have a PC interface. So yeah, I'd say this is about hardware.
Also, I think Peqqz's opinion does matter (to some degree, at least). Ultimately, anything that makes your stream different or unique is going to be a good thing in the big picture. But it's just going to show what everyone already knew: your heart rate goes up when you're in intense situations. Whenever the heart rate monitor would be interesting (early game cheese, big battles, etc), there would be some action on screen that would probably draw your attention more than the heart rate monitor itself.
Viewers would get more interaction from you TELLING them how you feel (microphone) and SEEING how stressed you are (webcam) than a heart rate monitor IMO.
Best of luck though. Keep this thread updated with your findings if you go through with it.
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wtfchuck, you are welcome.
and z0rz, the link he provided was an android sports tracking system that doesn't do anything that was asked for. He probably did a quick google search and pasted the first result without even checking into it.
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On June 14 2013 09:10 z0rz wrote:
Best of luck though. Keep this thread updated with your findings if you go through with it.
Yeah would be interesting to see how it turns out.
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I just wanted to leave my opinion that a heart rate monitor on a stream would be an awesome addition. If you didn't do commentary along with it then it would not be as great obviously but it adds another layer to the viewing experience. Hope it works out for you.
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Best idea I could come up with is a heart rate strap that comes with iOS compatible software (3rd party as well, will do some digging for the most convenient UI).
I then install an iPhone mirroring application on my PC followed by making a custom overlay so that it blocks out useless information that I can't figure out how to crop out of the iPhone window pane in XSplit.
That combined with the "Nessie" microphone that blue has just came out with should greatly improve the quality of my stream and hopefully more enjoyable for everyone.
Thank you all for your support. Let me know if anyone has any better ideas. 
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It looks like the Zypher brand of heart rate monitors may be the best choice since they have released an API allowing coders to develop software. Specifically the Zypher HxM bt.
Here is an open source project that deals with creating programs that will interface with various bluetooth hardware including heart rate monitors, may be something to keep an eye on.
https://code.google.com/p/zephyropen/
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That's actually pretty cool! "Our technique can run in real time to show phenomena occurring at temporal frequencies selected by the user" so it can probably be used in livestreaming, although it'd probably be a huge pain in the ass haha. (And hardware IS required because you at least need a webcam :p)
On June 17 2013 22:57 Sentient42 wrote:It looks like the Zypher brand of heart rate monitors may be the best choice since they have released an API allowing coders to develop software. Specifically the Zypher HxM bt. Here is an open source project that deals with creating programs that will interface with various bluetooth hardware including heart rate monitors, may be something to keep an eye on. https://code.google.com/p/zephyropen/
You should go back and read the link you rejected earlier in this thread. That "reading comprehension" comment was probably a bad idea. Props for including a link to the open source program though.
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You should go back and read the link you rejected earlier in this thread. That "reading comprehension" comment was probably a bad idea. Props for including a link to the open source program though.
I still reject that link on the basis that he offered no solution or experience with what the OP was asking for. If the question was "I'm looking for a heartbeat monitor that works on iPhone" then it would have been a proper response, but it wasn't. He could have linked anything, there are multiple models available from several companies that do much of the same thing. There are even three different ones on the page he linked. By blind chance the one I found most suitable for what the OP later said he would attempt to do was on the same page. It doesn't matter. That doesn't change that fact that the original response was essentially useless. I suppose you can't understand that. Maybe you need to brush up on your reasoning skills.
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You're assuming it was blind chance. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Maybe he used the exact same search terms as you and found the exact same product as you. Doesn't seem too unlikely if you ask me. You probably just didn't like his negative post and assumed the worst of him.
I was just tickled by the irony of you lambasting someone for their "poor reading comprehension" when they actually provided a suggestion that WAS requested, the fact that you arrived at the same conclusion as said person (with an additional link), and the fact that you misspelled Zephyr multiple times. It's just funny on so many levels.
As I said, OP did ask for hardware suggestions, got one, then got the same one later. That's not poor reading comprehension on Peqqz's part, that's just a suggestion that could have been more helpful with more explanation/information (which you provided). At no point did OP say "if you give me a suggestion, please explain yourself." If he did, you'd have a solid argument. Maybe you need to brush up on what reading comprehension actually is.
But this a tech forum and not a comedy or English forum, so it is what it is. Like I said, props for providing the open source program because that will probably be helpful for OP. I gave you the credit (and discredit) you deserved.
I like weepingAngel's idea with the realtime pulse effect, though. Not only would you get to see the person's facial expressions/reactions AND their pulse in the same part of the overlay, but you would be at the forefront of using this technology. That's pretty cool. Potential downsides: you would probably need a pretty high res webcam with good lighting, and the color pulsing might get a bit annoying after a while.
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Listen up troll, nowhere did the OP ask for a hardware link. You may want to try reading the OP's post again, try to read and understand what he was saying and not focus on the single word 'hardware'. And yes, this requires a basic amount of reading comprehension to accomplish, something you are also apparently lacking.
If that question was rephrased to any sort of college English or technical exam, that answer would be an absolute failure.
I offered a solution without caring about the fact it was on a page that was linked earlier, because it was helpful If you find that funny, then so be it, I don't care.
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Easy with the name-calling. There's no need for that. And nobody is trolling you.
I'm going to try one last time. If you're seriously basing this all on the fact that he didn't word-for-word say "give me a hardware link," you can just stop now. I've already quoted it once but I'll do it again because, you know, reading comprehension. I'll bold the important parts again.
Has anyone had any success in setting up a heart rate monitor to display during streaming of gameplay? I'm sure some of you have but I have yet to discover a successful solution or hardware set up. So far I have purchased nothing and was looking to inquire as to what may be needed for such a thing to happen.
I would like the heart rate to display as any Overlay would. I currently stream Starcraft 2: Heart of the Swarm on both PC and Mac through XSplit and Adobe Flash Live Media Encoder.
Any advice would be very welcomed.
He says he hasn't found any hardware yet, hasn't purchased anything, and wants advice. In this case, a link (which is a hardware suggestion) is actually quite relevant because now OP has a starting point, seeing as he said he has "yet to find a successful solution OR HARDWARE SETUP." Again, it wasn't the BEST way to give advice as it could have contained a little more information and a link to software (as you did), but he was obviously on the right path. It was must be a good product, as even you have endorsed it.
Attack Peqqz's laziness or unwillingness to help, not his reading comprehension-- everything he provided was 100% relevant to the OP. It just wasn't as helpful as it could have been.
And yes, I'm aware that this is about more than JUST hardware-- if you read my first post you can see that I gave input on the overlay query. And I gave my suggestion about the overall viability of such a gimmick, which is advice, which is what was requested. "ANY advice would be very welcomed."
But hey, if that's the game you want to play, he didn't word-for-word ask for a link to the software you provided. Tisk tisk.
PM me if you want to continue this discussion. I'm getting a kick out of it, but my posts are getting pretty long-winded and we're both way off topic with this.
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To stay on topic: I can point out that DreamHack once used a heart rate monitor in one of their tournaments and it was widely regarded as being too gimmicky and it hasn't been used since. And if you think about it, heart rate monitors make MORE sense in a tournament setting than a personal stream; the players are under a heck of a lot more pressure at a tournament.
Also, Lone Star Clash 2 used Mirametrix eye tracking software to analyze eye movement. It was cool to see the technology, but again, it just confirmed what we already knew-- pro players move their eyes a lot, spend a lot of time looking at the minimap and resources, etc. But it was used as a post-game analysis tool and/or time-filler rather than realtime feedback, so it wasn't really distracting from the gameplay. Plus there was at least a LITTLE variance in eye movement patterns vs. heart rate per player-- some players almost never made direct eye contact with the minimap (they looked at the top right corner a lot).
It looks like this project could cost you several hundred dollars. If you don't already have a high quality webcam and microphone, I'd strongly urge you to invest in that before something like a heart rate monitor (unless you plan to use it outside of your stream, for training or health purposes).
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You are trolling whether you realize it or not.
You fail to understand that Peqqz's link was a random (he even used the word EXAMPLE) link to a sports tracking system designed for iPhone usage. It was not a successful solution or a hardware setup to stream a pulse in game. He simply google searched and posted a result which included multiple models, which anyone can do, so it was essentially useless.
I simply was thwarting negative behavior on the forums, if everyone posted as he did these threads would be useless. If you want to defend someone's actions who they themselves do not rightfully care enough to do so, dissect the argument and argue over semantics and get a kick out of it, I suggest you spend your energy on something more productive. I'd recommend getting on some philosophy forums as those can be really entertaining, this is just a waste of time and will be forgotten tomorrow.
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On June 19 2013 22:25 Sentient42 wrote:
You are trolling whether you realize it or not.
You fail to understand that Peqqz's link was a random (he even used the word EXAMPLE) link to a sports tracking system designed for iPhone usage. It was not a successful solution or a hardware setup to stream a pulse in game. He simply google searched and posted a result which included multiple models, which anyone can do, so it was essentially useless.
I simply was thwarting negative behavior on the forums, if everyone posted as he did these threads would be useless. If you want to defend someone's actions who they themselves do not rightfully care enough to do so, dissect the argument and argue over semantics and get a kick out of it, I suggest you spend your energy on something more productive. I'd recommend getting on some philosophy forums as those can be really entertaining, this is just a waste of time and will be forgotten tomorrow.
This is it.
Dont be so offensive, guys. Calm down and help this poor guy who needs your wisdom.
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It might be too late, but...
We created a service for streamers to use a heart rate monitor on stream. Our Heart Rate Widget for streaming is easy to use, you will get an URL to use in BrowserSource. Details about heart rate widget
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