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Hello,
As I am sure many of you did, I just got a few computer parts for Christmas. Awesome right? Yes and no, the problem is that after installing my new hardware (AMD FX-8350 and 16 gigs of new DDR3 1333 RAM) my GPU seams to be overheating very quickly, about 1-5 minutes. This has happened both times that I have tried to turn the computer on and the second time I wasn't even running any programs other then those that start-up with windows. What might the problem be? I have re-checked all the connection for the Graphics card and they seam to be in place but I am very weary of trying it again as the last card I had was ruined due to overheating (this was in the summer and with a different MOBO so I can't really see any connection.) I have also cleaned out all the dust and I plan on trying with my old ram and CPU tomorrow to see if one of the new pieces is the problem. To give you some context I will list the other components of my system, along with what I have replaced.
-GTX 460 Nvidea graphics card
-4 gigs of kingston ddr3 ram
-AMD 4100-FX CPU
-a 500W Power Supply
-msi 760GM-P21
-I have this in a large case with 5 fans so I don't think that is the problem
I am also looking to go and buy a SSD tomorrow at the boxing day sale as I got a few memory express gift cards so if there are any ideas as to what the problem is before I head out that would be awesome, otherwise I hope that I can get this figured out in time to cast on Friday.
Thank you for any help you can give not matter how silly it might seam (I don't really know much about computers even though I am getting much better in this regard,) I have also been looking through computer hardware support sites but have not seen anything about this specific problem so I decided to post.
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by any chance did you bump your gpu during the swap of components? My guess is the card was bumped and the heatsink became loose.. I would check the screws to see if its on properly, also leave your side panel off to see if it still overheats. Have you tried taking the shroud/heatsink off and replacing the thermal paste on the gpu?
Edit: Check to make sure the GPU fan is spinning properly as well.
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Wouldn't it be the windows evaluation tool that runs his test? happened to me too, i freaked out at fans going crazy, but it was just windows benchmarking for his silly performance indice 
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First: Check fan (i also did this mistake once lol)
Second: Check heatsink
Third: Repaste your gpu with some nice thermal paste
And last, you can buy a new videocard
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What type of PSU is it? You say 500w but you do not clarify the brand as I know that when a PSU starts to degrade or just doesn't have enough power to handle the video card in general, it will just rev up the fans and shut off.
EDIT: After reading a bit more and seeing that you upgraded to a 8 core FX chip, I will just straight up say that its a power issue. You need a better PSU.
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Thermal paste, had same shit.
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Ok so I tried with the case open to see if it would still heat up, I made sure that the GPU is in place and I also checked to make sure all the fans are going (they are) and the card was still heating up. It took about 5 min from turning it on but it got quite hot, too hot to touch. The PSU is Silver Stone, not really sure if that is very good or not but I have never heard of it other than when the guy sold it too me, it has worked really well however so I don't really think that it is the problem (I could be completely wrong thought, as I said I am kind of comp stupid .) How would I go about checking if the thermal paste is off?
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No, dont bother messing with the GPU. It was fine before the CPU upgrade right? What is the exact model number of your PSU? Also, let me know how many Amps you have on your 12v Rail (Rails).
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Ok so the model number on the PSU is SST-ST50F-ES. Not really sure which one is the 12v rail but the one that connects the the GPU has 2 larger outputs and one smaller one, the cord that is for the fans has 3 pieces to it in a row, and the one for hhd and cd drive has 3 as well.
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How do you know it's overheating?
Are you running realtemp? If so, what temperatures was it reaching.
Did you get a BSOD?
If so, what code?
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I felt it and it burnt my hand a little bit, the picture will also go black and there is this loud buzzing noise that comes over the speakers if there was any sound playing when the crash happened. As far as I know this is the symptoms for overheating GPU but if I am wrong I wouldn't be surprised.
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The combination of your CPU and GPU under load (at stock speeds) consume about 24-25 Amps. Fans are usually underestimated on power consumption as well. It says you have 34a on the 12v rail but honestly, but the PSU is honestly the only thing I can think of that would all of a sudden be an issue. I do know one thing though, if something is getting unstable power, it will get hot. I learned that with my 5850.
It could be your gpu though. Download GPU-Z and HWMonitor. You can use those to check your temps.
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I actually got a PSU for Christmas as well but it is a 400W unit so I didn't bother trying it because, well, 500 is a bigger number than 400 lol. I will try it out and see if it fixes anything. It is a Dynex with a model nuber DX-400WPS. The cost of the new PSU was a little over 100 and the silverstone was about 50 so I assume it must be better in some way.
edit: yeah never mind the card needs at least 450W power supply so I was cutting it close enough as it was, can't really go below the min powersupply
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On December 26 2012 20:31 MuATaran wrote:
I actually got a PSU for Christmas as well but it is a 400W unit so I didn't bother trying it because, well, 500 is a bigger number than 400 lol. I will try it out and see if it fixes anything. It is a Dynex with a model nuber DX-400WPS. The cost of the new PSU was a little over 100 and the silverstone was about 50 so I assume it must be better in some way.
edit: yeah never mind the card needs at least 450W power supply so I was cutting it close enough as it was, can't really go below the min powersupply
woah what? You paid 100 for that PSU? you should return that PSU and rob whoever sold it to you. lol. The silverstone, to put it lightly, shits on that dynex psu.
BUT, there is something you can try. look at this. connect the dynex psu to the video card and then try to run a game or stress test and see if it shuts off. If it still shuts down while being powered by the second PSU, then you know that it has nothing to do with the SilverStone, its probably something wrong with your video card (probably just needs new thermal paste).
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^It doesnt actually need anywhere near that much wattage, just says that on the specs.
The problem is largely in that most PSU's are cheaply built for whatever specs they list, and if the weakest link fails then your system wont run.
Also, 80c is not really abnormal for a lot of GPU's, so you cant really quote overheating without monitoring the temperature and fan speed
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Soooo I think I did something very stupid, I may have had the PSU put in upside down when I put it back in so the fan was just blowing the hot air onto a piece of metal rather than out of the PSU itself. I downloaded GPU temp and it seams to be staying around 50-55 degrees Celsius when I am watching a youtube video and from what I have read this is acceptable. I just wanted to thank you guys for your help and wow do I feel stupid for what was actually wrong with it.
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On December 26 2012 21:56 MuATaran wrote:
Soooo I think I did something very stupid, I may have had the PSU put in upside down when I put it back in so the fan was just blowing the hot air onto a piece of metal rather than out of the PSU itself. I downloaded GPU temp and it seams to be staying around 50-55 degrees Celsius when I am watching a youtube video and from what I have read this is acceptable. I just wanted to thank you guys for your help and wow do I feel stupid for what was actually wrong with it.
lol, well hey, it happens to the best of us. At least you don't have to spend any moneyz on it.
PS: skyR IS THE FUCKING MAN
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^Cmon he didnt even post in this thread (:
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