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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 09:04:29
March 13 2013 09:03 GMT
#1321
Yes, setting a really low buffer on variable bitrate is really bad.

If you cant do 500/500 or 500/400 then there's not much point trying to stream most gaming i think
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 13 2013 09:50 GMT
#1322
my obs keeps crashing 10~15 minutes into the game and i get fps lag
i'm using r1ch's bw plugin, fullscreen bw

a crash, i dunno how to do timestamps but it happens at about 11:45 http://www.twitch.tv/szpt/b/376658842
sound keeps going for a bit but video freezes
+ Show Spoiler [2013-03-10-0401-11.log] +
Open Broadcaster Software v0.473b (test build 6) - 32bit (´・ω・`)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz
CPU Speed: 1596MHz
Physical Memory: 4020MB Total, 2021MB Free
stepping id: 5, model 14, family 6, type 0, extmodel 0, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1366, 768}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6570M/5700 Series
Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1063923712
Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1839478784
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 640x480
Output resolution: 640x480
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using Window Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
x264: profile High, level 3.0
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 25
width: 640, height: 480
preset: veryfast
CBR: no
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1000
buffer size: 1000
quality: 7
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-3c.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 5495, number of frames that lagged: 3441 (62.62%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:37 Avg QP:22.13 size: 72114
x264: frame P:2231 Avg QP:26.00 size: 12256
x264: frame B:3186 Avg QP:31.43 size: 1183
x264: consecutive B-frames: 16.6% 13.0% 10.6% 59.8%
x264: mb I I16..4: 16.8% 10.7% 72.6%
x264: mb P I16..4: 3.6% 4.5% 6.4% P16..4: 12.2% 3.1% 3.0% 0.0% 0.0% skip:67.2%
x264: mb B I16..4: 0.5% 0.1% 0.2% B16..8: 2.8% 1.0% 0.5% direct: 1.1% skip3.7% L0:47.6% L1:44.0% BI: 8.3%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:27.9% inter:23.2%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 86.2% 48.2% 31.3% inter: 6.3% 5.3% 2.7%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 34% 13% 46% 8%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 5% 17% 39% 4% 7% 3% 8% 4% 13%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 10% 16% 21% 8% 9% 7% 12% 6% 12%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 64% 19% 14% 4%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.5% UV:0.5%
x264: kb/s:472.69
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 90.195 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 99.6%] [unaccounted: 0.387%]
| scene->Preprocess - [97.8%] [avg time: 88.193 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [1.83%] [avg time: 1.653 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 0.938%] [unaccounted: 0.895%]
| | CopyResource - [0.103%] [avg time: 0.093 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0344%] [avg time: 0.031 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [0.768%] [avg time: 0.693 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.0322%] [avg time: 0.029 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================

Memory Leaks Were Detected.

+ Show Spoiler [2013-03-10-0347-38.log] +
Open Broadcaster Software v0.473b (test build 6) - 32bit (´・ω・`)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz
CPU Speed: 1596MHz
Physical Memory: 4020MB Total, 1996MB Free
stepping id: 5, model 14, family 6, type 0, extmodel 0, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1366, 768}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6570M/5700 Series
Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1063923712
Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1839478784
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 640x480
Output resolution: 640x480
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using Window Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
x264: profile High, level 3.0
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 25
width: 640, height: 480
preset: veryfast
CBR: no
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1000
buffer size: 1000
quality: 7
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-3c.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536

+ Show Spoiler [2013-03-10-0018-19.log] +
Open Broadcaster Software v0.473b (test build 6) - 32bit (´・ω・`)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz
CPU Speed: 1596MHz
Physical Memory: 4020MB Total, 1766MB Free
stepping id: 5, model 14, family 6, type 0, extmodel 0, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1366, 768}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6570M/5700 Series
Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1063923712
Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1839478784
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 640x480
Output resolution: 640x480
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using Window Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
x264: profile High, level 3.0
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 25
width: 640, height: 480
preset: veryfast
CBR: no
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1000
buffer size: 1000
quality: 7
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-3c.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536

+ Show Spoiler [2013-03-09-2246-32.log] +
Open Broadcaster Software v0.473b (test build 6) - 32bit (´・ω・`)
-------------------------------
CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz
CPU Speed: 1596MHz
Physical Memory: 4020MB Total, 1966MB Free
stepping id: 5, model 14, family 6, type 0, extmodel 0, extfamily 0, HTT 1, logical cores 8, total cores 4
monitor 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1366, 768}
Windows Version: 6.1 Build 7601 S
Aero is Disabled
------------------------------------------
Adapter 1
Video Adapter: AMD Radeon HD 6570M/5700 Series
Video Adapter Dedicated Video Memory: 1063923712
Video Adapter Shared System Memory: 1839478784
=====Stream Start=====================================================================
Multithreaded optimizations: On
Base resolution: 640x480
Output resolution: 640x480
------------------------------------------
Loading up D3D10...
Playback device Default
------------------------------------------
Using desktop audio input: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Using auxilary audio input: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
------------------------------------------
Audio Encoding: AAC
bitrate: 128
Using Window Capture
x264: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
x264: profile High, level 3.0
------------------------------------------
Video Encoding: x264
fps: 25
width: 640, height: 480
preset: veryfast
CBR: no
CFR: no
max bitrate: 1000
buffer size: 1000
quality: 7
------------------------------------------
Using RTMP service: Twitch / Justin.tv
Server selection: rtmp://live-3c.justin.tv/app
SO_SNDBUF was at 8192
SO_SNDBUF is now 65536
Total frames rendered: 9304, number of frames that lagged: 4396 (47.25%) (it's okay for some frames to lag)
RTMPPublisher::SocketLoop: Aborting due to bStopping
Number of times waited to send: 0, Waited for a total of 0 bytes
Number of b-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Number of p-frames dropped: 0 (0%), Total 0 (0%)
x264: frame I:51 Avg QP:21.86 size: 67242
x264: frame P:2899 Avg QP:25.39 size: 6466
x264: frame B:6312 Avg QP:30.74 size: 475
x264: consecutive B-frames: 6.1% 7.3% 5.4% 81.2%
x264: mb I I16..4: 33.1% 5.3% 61.6%
x264: mb P I16..4: 2.2% 1.9% 3.1% P16..4: 7.4% 1.6% 1.7% 0.0% 0.0% skip:82.1%
x264: mb B I16..4: 0.1% 0.0% 0.1% B16..8: 1.1% 0.3% 0.2% direct: 0.4% skip7.7% L0:42.8% L1:49.0% BI: 8.2%
x264: 8x8 transform intra:21.7% inter:23.3%
x264: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 77.5% 51.1% 36.3% inter: 2.6% 2.3% 1.2%
x264: i16 v,h,dc,p: 46% 20% 29% 5%
x264: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 7% 17% 38% 4% 8% 4% 8% 4% 12%
x264: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 13% 18% 20% 7% 8% 6% 11% 6% 11%
x264: i8c dc,h,v,p: 60% 22% 14% 4%
x264: Weighted P-Frames: Y:0.6% UV:0.4%
x264: kb/s:251.81
=====Stream End=======================================================================

Profiler results:

==============================================================
frame - [100%] [avg time: 66.206 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 99.4%] [unaccounted: 0.559%]
| scene->Preprocess - [96.9%] [avg time: 64.182 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1]
| video encoding and uploading - [2.5%] [avg time: 1.654 ms] [avg calls per frame: 1] [children: 1.25%] [unaccounted: 1.25%]
| | CopyResource - [0.116%] [avg time: 0.077 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | conversion to 4:2:0 - [0.0574%] [avg time: 0.038 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | call to encoder - [1.04%] [avg time: 0.688 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
| | sending stuff out - [0.0378%] [avg time: 0.025 ms] [avg calls per frame: 0]
==============================================================

Memory Leaks Were Detected.
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 23:08:49
March 13 2013 22:49 GMT
#1323
I can't get OBS to broadcast the music from my music player programs, and it seems to only plays sounds from Starcraft 2. My game sound and mic work perfectly. Any idea how to fix this?

My control panel settings:
Playback: Speakers / ASUS Xonar DX Audio Device - Default Device
Recording: Microphone / Webcam C260 - Default Device

OBS Audio settings:
Desktop Audio Device: Speakers (ASUS Xonar DX Audio Device)
Microphone/Auxiliary Audio Device: Microphone (Webcam C260)

Using game capture.

I had it working with these settings, but OBS stopped broadcasting my other desktop sounds after restarting my computer with the same settings left on. I've tried using default settings in OBS with no success as well.

yeaitooted
Profile Joined May 2010
United States51 Posts
March 13 2013 23:38 GMT
#1324
Whats the difference between game capture and game source? Any performance difference?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
March 14 2013 08:30 GMT
#1325
You mean Xsplit gamesource? Im not aware of anything called game source in OBS (and it would probably be avoided to avoid confusion)

Xsplit gamesource is vastly different in terms of performance and how it scales to anything in OBS. I think its worse by some margin at high resolution and FPS (like 1920x1080) but better at lower ones, it's also much more limited as to what it can capture etc.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 08:36:22
March 14 2013 08:33 GMT
#1326
Hi i just want to stream but I don't know if my computer can afford it.

Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
2,7 GHz
2,99 Go
ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
1680x1050

Here is the test of my Internet speed : www.speedtest.net/result/2572756046.png

I tried to stream with 600/600 buffer and 30 FPS but it was horrible for viewers.

Thanks.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 09:13:17
March 14 2013 08:43 GMT
#1327
Try 840x525 (1:2 downscale) at 20-30fps with x264 preset set to medium or slow
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
March 14 2013 11:15 GMT
#1328
Thanks for the advice.
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
March 14 2013 21:40 GMT
#1329
On March 14 2013 17:43 Cyro wrote:
Try 840x525 (1:2 downscale) at 20-30fps with x264 preset set to medium or slow

I hope you aren't responsible for all the problems on the OBS support forum we have to deal with caused by people changing their preset .
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
March 14 2013 21:50 GMT
#1330
Maybe if they misinterpret me =P

I have done more yelling at people for doing it than i have reccomending it, plus quite a bit of stress testing with cpu logging. If i can run through stress tests in sc2 without exceeding 90% on any core aside from occasionally the main game thread @3.8ghz for 960x540, 60fps at medium, im pretty sure he can handle 840x525, 20-30fps at medium if not slow @2.67 (both nehalem)

Not sure if thats a joking smily or pissed/judging o.0
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
March 14 2013 21:55 GMT
#1331
I just really dislike anyone giving advice to change the preset without knowing the full circumstances. It's incredibly easy to ruin your stream with it, and the benefits are extremely minimal.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 22:04:40
March 14 2013 22:00 GMT
#1332
His circumstances are very similar to mine and i experimented a lot and spent a very large amount of time learning what i could, i dont think you could go wrong with medium @30fps at that resolution, maybe slow @20. The efficiency gains between Veryfast and Medium/Slow are large, as much as 30% higher at times.

I wouldnt touch it for playing around with a higher resolution stream (maybe 720, 30fps - 720, 60fps/1080, 30fps with a CPU like a 3770k@5ghz or a 3930k perhaps) but we're talking less than 20% of the resolution of "1080p" at only 20, 30fps. Tripling CPU load is not exactly fatal, it may not be sandy/ivy bridge or overclocked, but its still a desktop i7. I know the Nehalem i7's and ivy bridge pretty well.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 11:56:41
March 16 2013 11:51 GMT
#1333
anyone else having a high pitched tone when they are using their microphone?

i only have it when i enable my microphone but it just hurts my ears so much, any fix for this?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26136 Posts
March 23 2013 04:24 GMT
#1334
Apologies if this has been answered already. The quality is great for me thus far, but I do have this annoying black box around the edges of what it is capping, and I've been tweaking the aspect ratios but it won't solve the issue.

Is there a 'fit to screen' option or something that I've been dumb and missed?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
March 23 2013 04:41 GMT
#1335
Are you sure it wont?

What input/output resolutions are you using?

Twitch player is 16 : 9 i believe so it will have black bars unless you fullscreen if you don't use that aspect ratio.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 04:54:47
March 23 2013 04:54 GMT
#1336
would anyone know why even though my upload is consistently 4.3mbs+ up (on multiple servers, ive tested), yet I can't stream on a bitrate any higher than 2000/2000?

5ghz i7-3770k, 2400mhz 4gb mushkins, z77x-ud5h, x25-m g2 80gb, gtx 460 768mb

I've also been messing with the presets, for whatever reason given my bitrate issue, i can just stream on medium right? That'll make up for my low bitrate?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-23 05:03:39
March 23 2013 05:02 GMT
#1337
You miss crucial information (1366x768, 60fps) but as i already said medium would probably be ok on 5ghz 3770k for streaming sc2 at that resolution, fps

Preset cant make up for lower bitrate very well, even if you have like 25% higher efficiency in encoding, 2k 1366x768fps wont look nearly as good as 4k, even medium vs veryfast - and 2k medium vs 4k medium again you have the same bitrate gap but nothing to bridge it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
mrgoochio
Profile Joined April 2009
United States557 Posts
March 23 2013 05:23 GMT
#1338
Is there a way to set up a webcam in multiple scenes? When I add my cam in my game scene and the same cam in my other scene used for desktop / loading etc. for games 1 scene will always turn out with a red cam screen.
chengysogood
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26136 Posts
March 23 2013 05:40 GMT
#1339
On March 23 2013 13:41 Cyro wrote:
Are you sure it wont?

What input/output resolutions are you using?

Twitch player is 16 : 9 i believe so it will have black bars unless you fullscreen if you don't use that aspect ratio.

I don't have the upload rate to stream to Twitch, I'm just saving the vids to disk and uploading the occasional one to Youtube. I'm also in terrible shape as a player so I don't see the point in streaming a lot :p

I play SC2 on a different resolution to my monitor, and I've capped both with my monitor's standard aspect ratio, and the one I used for SC2. The latter actually looked a lot worse.

I can get on my other PC to check these things if you want more specific details? Apart from the black border around everything, I'm actually super happy with OBS thus far.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
March 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#1340
Well, what resolution are you playing the game in and what resolution are your file outputs? You can check them with right click - properties

If they are the same resolution or aspect ratio im not sure how black bars would manage to get added
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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