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JTVPing - Find your best TwitchTV server

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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-14 22:52:50
April 04 2012 00:01 GMT
#1
JTVPing was a program used to ping all Twitch servers and find the fastest server.

Use the new TwitchTest tool instead, as TwitchTest will also do a test stream and monitor your bitrate and connection stability. JTVPing will no longer function due to Twitch API changes.

+ Show Spoiler [Old Information] +
JTVPing will ping all the available Twitch TV ingest servers and show you the average ping and jitter. Generally you will find that streaming to the server with the lowest ping will give you the best results (higher bandwidth and more stable stream), although you should experiment with several servers to find out which is best for you.

Update (Jan 2014): Now uses the new Twitch API rather than the old undocumented XML ingest list (the latter no longer appears to be maintained).

As of September 2016, JTVPing is completely non-functional due to Twitch API changes. Use TwitchTest instead.

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Download (requires .NET 3.5, if you can run XSplit you already have this):
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/JTVPing.zip

+ Show Spoiler [How to set your ingest server in OBS] +
Settings / Broadcast Settings / Server.

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+ Show Spoiler [How to set your ingest server in XSplit] +
Broadcast / Edit Channels / Edit / Location.

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AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
Dalton-sc
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada2 Posts
April 04 2012 00:06 GMT
#2
nice, thank you
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 04 2012 00:06 GMT
#3
Secondaries better than primaries :D
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 23:08:56
April 04 2012 00:10 GMT
#4
Nice app dude, works great!

R1CH is the king of ping
"See you space cowboy"
AnDa1120
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada472 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 01:10:07
April 04 2012 01:09 GMT
#5
How do you change the location? ;o
But thanks R1CH for the sick app!
http://www.twitch.tv/area51_anda | @ahandyhoang | areaAnDa.751 | Terran | NaDa ♥
DooMNoThx
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria185 Posts
April 04 2012 07:54 GMT
#6
In R1CH we trust <3
Only those who can see the invisible ... can do the impossible ... NoThx's TV : http://www.twitch.tv/doomnothx
Flaiker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany235 Posts
April 04 2012 08:20 GMT
#7
Nice, theres now a server in Germany
Altough it says 0ms connection atm :/
...
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
April 04 2012 10:55 GMT
#8
If the number stays black it means the program was unable to connect to that server.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
April 04 2012 11:09 GMT
#9
How do we choose which server to stream to?
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Evire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Norway198 Posts
April 04 2012 11:14 GMT
#10
Thank you for making this

On April 04 2012 20:09 Th1rdEye wrote:
How do we choose which server to stream to?


Go to: Tools - General settings - Channels click on your stream and click edit. Then change the location
mistax
Profile Joined March 2011
United States415 Posts
April 04 2012 16:30 GMT
#11
=( im getting high jitter this is no good.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
April 04 2012 16:36 GMT
#12
Thanks R1CH, useful as always.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
April 04 2012 16:45 GMT
#13
On April 04 2012 09:06 EtherealDeath wrote:
Secondaries better than primaries :D

Not true. I get 9ms for the Ashburn Primary, and 23ms for the Ashburn Secondary.
ZwuckeL
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany563 Posts
April 05 2012 07:23 GMT
#14
Is there a way to directly copy the ip address of the servers from the program? Would be a neat addition.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
April 05 2012 08:10 GMT
#15
That's so handy! Thanks a lot!
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zeroISM
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan161 Posts
April 05 2012 12:23 GMT
#16
R1CH always impresses me with his programming skills D:
Thank you so much for this!!
♘
JethroTV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States206 Posts
April 16 2012 11:31 GMT
#17
Just stumbled upon this. Very nice, I always appreciate your efforts.
@JethroTV
gimppy
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada2 Posts
April 28 2012 00:37 GMT
#18
awesome tool thanks ^_^
nforce
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria116 Posts
April 28 2012 00:38 GMT
#19
Long live R1CH!
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
April 28 2012 02:56 GMT
#20
So, on which one should I base it?
Last, avg. or jitter?
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Zurachi
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada289 Posts
April 29 2012 04:15 GMT
#21
Thanks a bunch R1CH! Just tried this out, definitely helps anyone trying to optimize their streaming.
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Tenetri
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada7 Posts
April 30 2012 17:19 GMT
#22
Thanks R1CH! Worked great. The server that I'm now going to use is quite a bit better than the one I was using before I found your program. TY
I have a soup request here
Redback93
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia187 Posts
April 30 2012 17:39 GMT
#23
Sweet Program R1CH! I always find that it defaults to US, and I am unsure of where to place it.
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
April 30 2012 18:28 GMT
#24
On April 28 2012 11:56 carloselcoco wrote:
So, on which one should I base it?
Last, avg. or jitter?

R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
May 01 2012 00:02 GMT
#25
What do you think?
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
May 01 2012 01:11 GMT
#26
on the three
banelings
TheWahbinator
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
May 01 2012 04:21 GMT
#27
At startup:
---------------------------

---------------------------
Failed to download or parse the Twitch TV server list. Check your internet connection.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------


Oddly enough it doesn't affect anything and works like normal.
boc
Profile Joined January 2012
United States3 Posts
May 01 2012 04:30 GMT
#28
Nice R1CH, making it read from a central list too so you avoid updating internal lists.
Bijan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States286 Posts
May 01 2012 06:39 GMT
#29
I love you R1CH. I want to take you out to a nice restaurant, wine and dine you, take you home and make an unwanted advance. It's OK if you push me away because I've still got this program to remember you by.
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
May 01 2012 06:48 GMT
#30
ty R1CH and gunrun, he just post it on twitch news!
-KarakStarcraft-
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
May 01 2012 07:35 GMT
#31
On May 01 2012 09:02 R1CH wrote:
What do you think?


Actually despite working on streaming for a bit, I too have no idea like the others that asked. Is it a lower jitter worth trading it off for a lower average ping?
Noispaxen
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland150 Posts
May 01 2012 07:36 GMT
#32
This is great, but I have a question then... What does "Default" mean in X-split?
I always had it set to default, despite streaming from 2different countries in Europe, and recently in Taiwan. Thought it picks the one with the lowest ping by itself, isn't it so?
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khanan
Profile Joined July 2011
47 Posts
May 01 2012 07:42 GMT
#33
Eh, no source?
There is no right, or wrong; only fun, and boring.
EntropyFails
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
81 Posts
May 01 2012 08:45 GMT
#34
Yeah, I think we would like the source as well at TwitchTV for setting up new test ingest servers and the like!

We have a bunch of python scripts and couple of test programs that we can run, but this is a much nicer interface.

Or as a feature addition, it can search the directory for server_list.txt which is a list of servers to add to the results that the xsplit api call returns. That's what I'd do if I had the source.

Either way, yet another great tool from TL!

Go R1CH!
WTFZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States704 Posts
May 01 2012 09:07 GMT
#35
Awesome, thanks buddy.
Might makes right.
nforce
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria116 Posts
May 01 2012 10:29 GMT
#36
On May 01 2012 13:21 TheWahbinator wrote:
At startup:
Show nested quote +
---------------------------

---------------------------
Failed to download or parse the Twitch TV server list. Check your internet connection.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------


Oddly enough it doesn't affect anything and works like normal.

Same. But it works, that's important.
nightsh
Profile Joined August 2011
France135 Posts
May 01 2012 13:11 GMT
#37
Stupid question, but oh well : from the viewer perspective, is the server the streamer is streaming to the server you must watch from ? Or is there a way to force viewing through another server ?

I ask this because as a european viewer, i still have a ton of problems of lag with Twitch depending on the streams i watch.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
May 01 2012 13:23 GMT
#38
I thought it was obvious, but here is what the numbers mean:

Last: the last ping to the server
Avg: the average ping to the server
Jitter: the stddev of the ping to the server


You want a low average ping with low jitter. The numbers are color coded to help you figure out what is high or low.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
May 01 2012 13:24 GMT
#39
On May 01 2012 19:29 nforce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 13:21 TheWahbinator wrote:
At startup:
---------------------------

---------------------------
Failed to download or parse the Twitch TV server list. Check your internet connection.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------


Oddly enough it doesn't affect anything and works like normal.

Same. But it works, that's important.

I'll look into this, maybe twitch added something to the list that is giving the program trouble.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
May 01 2012 13:25 GMT
#40
On May 01 2012 22:11 nightsh wrote:
Stupid question, but oh well : from the viewer perspective, is the server the streamer is streaming to the server you must watch from ? Or is there a way to force viewing through another server ?

I ask this because as a european viewer, i still have a ton of problems of lag with Twitch depending on the streams i watch.

No effect, once twitch receives the stream it's sent around their network to multiple servers.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
MacroZerg
Profile Joined July 2011
Greece40 Posts
May 01 2012 14:35 GMT
#41
RICH u fuckin.....genius
For Teh Swarm !
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
May 01 2012 14:44 GMT
#42
Updated version fixes the "Failed to download or parse the Twitch TV server list. Check your internet connection" problem.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
May 01 2012 15:46 GMT
#43
On May 01 2012 22:25 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:11 nightsh wrote:
Stupid question, but oh well : from the viewer perspective, is the server the streamer is streaming to the server you must watch from ? Or is there a way to force viewing through another server ?

I ask this because as a european viewer, i still have a ton of problems of lag with Twitch depending on the streams i watch.

No effect, once twitch receives the stream it's sent around their network to multiple servers.

Are you watching from the same server if you watch from for example ru.twitch.tv or nl.twitch.tv?
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
May 01 2012 15:53 GMT
#44
This is a pretty cool program, well done!
@Munck
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
May 01 2012 16:16 GMT
#45
On May 02 2012 00:46 Paladia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:25 R1CH wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:11 nightsh wrote:
Stupid question, but oh well : from the viewer perspective, is the server the streamer is streaming to the server you must watch from ? Or is there a way to force viewing through another server ?

I ask this because as a european viewer, i still have a ton of problems of lag with Twitch depending on the streams i watch.

No effect, once twitch receives the stream it's sent around their network to multiple servers.

Are you watching from the same server if you watch from for example ru.twitch.tv or nl.twitch.tv?

Yeah that makes no difference, it's just for the language of the site.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
Gropah
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands58 Posts
May 01 2012 16:49 GMT
#46
Nice tool Great help for streaming.

Thanks for making streaming a bit better :D
SirRobin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States269 Posts
May 01 2012 18:25 GMT
#47
Wow this is awesome. I just changed my location and I can stream with better quality now. 25ms from VA. I was using NY with 100ms :O
https://twitter.com/SirRobinSC2
Bijan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States286 Posts
May 01 2012 19:54 GMT
#48
On May 02 2012 03:25 SirRobin wrote:
Wow this is awesome. I just changed my location and I can stream with better quality now. 25ms from VA. I was using NY with 100ms :O


I had the same issue! And I'm in Jersey, only 1.5 hours from the city. I've seen other people have similar issues with the servers closer to them having a higher ping.

Does anyone know why this is? Does it have to do with traffic to that server?
di3alot
Profile Joined December 2011
172 Posts
May 01 2012 20:23 GMT
#49
On May 01 2012 22:23 R1CH wrote:
I thought it was obvious, but here is what the numbers mean:

Last: the last ping to the server
Avg: the average ping to the server
Jitter: the stddev of the ping to the server


You want a low average ping with low jitter. The numbers are color coded to help you figure out what is high or low.



hmm hmm hmm

and what if one server has
30 avg but 3jitter
and another 40 avg and 0,5 jitter ?
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
May 01 2012 23:46 GMT
#50
Test the bandwidth and see which is better. Probably identical at those levels.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
MSgtGunny
Profile Joined April 2012
United States10 Posts
May 18 2012 21:01 GMT
#51
Just wanted to let you know when this program can't connect to a server (blocked IP via firewall for instance) it shows 0ms green, instead of red or a can't connect.
mstarbuck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada14 Posts
May 27 2012 15:55 GMT
#52
soo awesome!!! thank you!! using it now! gonna help me so much when trying to connect to a server!
^.^
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
August 01 2012 03:12 GMT
#53
I'm releasing the source code for this under the GPL license.

Download (C# / Windows Forms):
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/JTVPingsrc.zip

Possible future ideas:
  • Bandwidth test using an RTMP stream to each server to test maximum sustainable bandwidth.

  • Proxy local RTMP connections to the server with the lowest latency (routes often change so one server might not always be the best)

  • Option to auto-tune relevant Windows settings for high BDP connections (TCP send window, compound TCP, delayed ack frequency, etc)
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
August 03 2012 01:05 GMT
#54
I'm looking into adding bandwidth testing, if anyone wnats to coordinate with me hit me up with a pm or message me on skype, my username is drazak168.
lawsonnz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland129 Posts
August 31 2012 19:08 GMT
#55
You are now loved by XSplit with this idea!

https://www.xsplit.com/issues.php
"Justin/TwitchTV & Own3d ingest location ping tester dropdown
Try to dropdown the Location list.
Implementation is very much inspired by R1CH. He came up with the idea for this functionality and we could not help but to include this as a native part of XSplit."
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 31 2012 19:19 GMT
#56
thank you for this.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 31 2012 19:24 GMT
#57
Which is more important? avg. ping or jitter? I have double jitter on VA Secondary, but half the ms on avg ping compared to primary.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
TOC.SERV
Profile Joined March 2013
1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 13:35:06
March 23 2013 09:33 GMT
#58
JTV - Ingest Ranker

This tool will make the choice for you.

There are several options for scan preferences + the ability to copy results to clipboard by selection (if enabled).

Since I cannot use images..

Results
Getting data
Three runs same settings one after the other
Copied to clipoard

This tool will automatically select the three best servers and test only them to provide an accurate result in less time.

The tool can also test all available servers and will always create the list from best to worst using the value of average ping + jitter

For example 2 servers with a ping of 50ms the one with less jitter would be set as the better server or results like 48ms ping and 2 jitter would be better than 45ms with 6 jitter.

Download

-Enjoy
Tarson
Profile Joined July 2003
Poland130 Posts
April 09 2013 14:59 GMT
#59
is this 100% accurate ? i wanna get new isp provider and wanna make sure i will be able to stream without any problems pls answer someone, huge thanks !
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 18:44:36
April 09 2013 18:44 GMT
#60
Hi,
Yes, the tool(s) are accurate in the way they operate. They will tell you the optimum server to stream to, based on average round trip response times. But they don't tell you the available throughput between you and the server, and this is typically what limits your streaming capabilities (when referring to network). As an indicator for throughput you can use sites like speedtest.net to get a ballpark estimate of your throughput.
Free to do whatever I want!
skinnyrl
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands125 Posts
August 03 2013 09:12 GMT
#61
Is this also possible in a way for just streaming a video on twitch.tv. It seems like 1080p is lagging while i have 40mbit connection and can download with 4mb sec. I guess it has something to do with the route it takes to reach twitc.tv. Anyone has any solution?
Would be greatly appreciated.

Tim
''Every advantage has it's disadvantage'' Johan Cruyf
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20301 Posts
August 03 2013 17:11 GMT
#62
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=420569

Twitch is kinda broken in general though, few people get good performance consistently
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Hay1tsme
Profile Joined November 2013
United States1 Post
November 26 2013 19:11 GMT
#63
When I go to extract the file, it says a password is needed. Does anybody have it, or am I crazy?
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 26 2013 21:14 GMT
#64
You're crazy. No password here.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Hinrek
Profile Joined April 2013
Switzerland6 Posts
December 14 2013 13:07 GMT
#65
I don't know what the hell is going on with my internets, but when I use the program I everytimes get really high pings on all servers. I live in switzerland, EU, so Frankfurt should be the nearest server...can someone help me? This is, I think, as well the issue I have with streaming and dropping frames, so can someone help me?
[image loading]
If someone is curious what I mean with dropping frames during streaming, when I'm streaming with my 2k upload I'm dropping frames even when I'm just one like 1500 kbps or less...

Regards Hinrek
I didn't like to write gg, so I started winning!™
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20301 Posts
December 15 2013 00:00 GMT
#66
www.pingtest.net

www.speedtest.net
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Hinrek
Profile Joined April 2013
Switzerland6 Posts
December 15 2013 06:57 GMT
#67
Pingtest: [image loading]
Speedtest:[image loading]
I didn't like to write gg, so I started winning!™
Bluejava
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden135 Posts
January 12 2014 18:28 GMT
#68
This should be updated with the Stockholm servers
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 19 2014 13:16 GMT
#69
does this mean twitch has servers in prague now? wat
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
January 19 2014 14:23 GMT
#70
On January 13 2014 03:28 IvorYchef wrote:
This should be updated with the Stockholm servers


Stockholm servers???
maru G5L pls
Abbott
Profile Joined March 2014
8 Posts
April 16 2014 17:30 GMT
#71
+1 thanks bro
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
June 01 2014 15:55 GMT
#72
This is a great app. Thank you very much!
joelin
Profile Joined November 2014
United States1 Post
November 16 2014 02:25 GMT
#73
I use a mac and I would like to know if there is a way i can use this app
MisterCalygos
Profile Joined February 2015
2 Posts
February 12 2015 08:40 GMT
#74
Hello there,
I downloaded the programm and it looks awesome. Streamers like myself got knowledge what server to take. Only one question for me as beginning streamer. How do I switch servers? How can I see on what server I am? I hope for a fast reply. Thanks
MisterCalygos
Profile Joined February 2015
2 Posts
February 12 2015 08:41 GMT
#75
Hello there,
I downloaded the programm and it looks awesome. Streamers like myself got knowledge what server to take. Only one question for me as beginning streamer. How do I switch servers? How can I see on what server I am? I hope for a fast reply. Thanks
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 12 2015 10:02 GMT
#76
TIL that there is a Twitch server in Prague within 1 ms of myself. Is that only for upload (streamers)? Because I still get surprisingly bad Twitch reception from time to time ...
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kingsob
Profile Joined December 2015
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December 14 2015 20:33 GMT
#77
Is this tool open source? I would love to modify it to test different Kamcord servers.
pahsa239
Profile Joined May 2016
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May 08 2016 06:27 GMT
#78
sad
Knazkhan
Profile Joined August 2016
1 Post
August 16 2016 17:17 GMT
#79
how dowload this programm
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