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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 24 2014 16:33 GMT
#1441
I actually can't think of a 120hz monitor on sale anymore! How time flies, I'll fix that thanks.

I noted the 85hz strobing because AFAIK the ROG Swift's minimum strobe rate is 85hz. It kind of goes without saying that if you want the ROG Swift, you better have the system for it and you probably want to be able to achieve 85hz at the very least if you want to use ULMB.

My impression is that when the strobe rate doesn't particularly match the frame rate, you end up with that abhorrent duplicate image artifacts and microstuttering which defeats the purpose of strobing. I haven't tried similar, but unmatched, strobe and frame rates before so I dunno. Its been a while, last time I tried this was with through Lightboost.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
July 25 2014 01:41 GMT
#1442
All of the ULMB monitors min strobe rate is 85 afaik

120hz strobing is a minor annoyance to some and a major problem to others, you're lucky if it doesn't affect you at all. I can't imagine 85 will work very well - and even if it does, dropping from 144hz to 120 feels a little weird. 144 to 100 is very easily blind testable. Going from 144hz gsync to 85hz strobing probably feels terrible, losing 41% of your refresh rate (like 60hz to ~35hz.. nobody would ever do that, and it's exactly the same for higher refresh rates!)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 25 2014 20:27 GMT
#1443
What exactly is strobe and why is it relevant?
maru lover forever
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 25 2014 20:35 GMT
#1444
On July 26 2014 05:27 Incognoto wrote:
What exactly is strobe and why is it relevant?

It's turning on and off the backlight so you don't actually see anything from the monitor the majority of the time (and hopefully due to the way your visual system works, it won't look like it's flickering. see: CRTs).

The idea is for the display to be visible only during some limited slice of each refresh cycle.

Read articles here:
http://www.blurbusters.com

Maybe this first:
http://www.blurbusters.com/faq/oled-motion-blur
n00pe
Profile Joined December 2012
Czech Republic2 Posts
July 26 2014 13:41 GMT
#1445
I can't decide between Asus VG248QE / Benq XL2411Z / BenQ XL2420Z / iiyama GB2488HSU-B1. What do you guys think?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 27 2014 10:01 GMT
#1446
Out of those, Benq XL2411Z is the best 144hz monitor on the market.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
July 28 2014 03:36 GMT
#1447
http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=891&start=150
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 31 2014 21:34 GMT
#1448
Seller of this monitor lists a bunch of compatible and incompatible graphics cards. However, I run a HD 4870 which is on neither the compatible nor the incompatible list. It has two dual link DVI ports and is capable of max resolution of 2560x1600 so it satisfies the requirement in that aspect, but so do many of the purportedly incompatible graphics cards. Is there way to tell if the HD 4870 is compatible with this monitor short of buying it? Green-sum forces buyers to pay return shipping.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
July 31 2014 23:20 GMT
#1449
You might be able to find someone on www.overclock.net who can help you, but i don't think it will be
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
August 01 2014 03:33 GMT
#1450
Well, I just set up an HD4870 to run two Dell U2713HMs so the dual link dvi ports on it work for that high of a resolution. Not sure about that monitor though.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 01 2014 21:23 GMT
#1451
Eh, posted this in the wrong place so i'll quote it here, just wanted to make sure it wasnt shit before i ordered it.

On August 02 2014 06:16 Capped wrote:
EDIT: Oops you guys have a dedicated monitor thread :| will post there

Looking to buy a cheap monitor that does everything i need it to. (Basically, good response time, decent size, 1920x1080, anything else is a bonus.)

I found this.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/monitors-and-projectors/pc-monitors/philips-227e4lhab-full-hd-21-5-led-monitor-21853516-pdt.html

Its pretty good right?

For me its the perfect price range / size etc. Even has HDMI!

Can you guys see anything wrong with it / something better?

Useless wet fish.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 01 2014 22:16 GMT
#1452
Not much differentiate the low-end monitors. If you are looking for low-end, there is a good chance that you will be satisfied with whatever you pick.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
August 02 2014 11:47 GMT
#1453
just FYI also, response time means something completely different to input latency (that seems to be an extremely common misconception, and i see wrong stuff posted by dozens of people when stuff like that comes up on reddit for example)

When i was looking at the cheaper UK monitors with firebolt, a lot of them seemed to use the same panels(?) and stuff like the stands were almost universally shit or at least unadjustable
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-03 04:28:47
August 03 2014 04:27 GMT
#1454
nvm
☺
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
August 03 2014 04:48 GMT
#1455
Is anyone opposed to the PB287Q 4K monitor at $699? I believe that's the best monitor at the price
There is no one like you in the universe.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 03 2014 04:55 GMT
#1456
TN panel and terrible Windows scaling.
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
August 03 2014 08:09 GMT
#1457
I have a 27" Apple Thunderbolt Display, 2560 x 1440. In addition to plugging a Macbook into it, which currently works perfectly, I'd also like to be able to plug a windows gaming computer into it, which I've heard does not work unless you make sure all your hardware is compatible. I'm going to be buying a new gaming computer this fall/Christmas, and (if it's possible), I'd like to know what I need to do to make it work with the Apple display.

+ Show Spoiler +
I did a little bit of research and from what I found no one was able to get a windows computer to work with the thunderbolt display except one enterprising individual who used a thunderbolt-enabled mobo and (I don't really get this part) virtualized his graphics card so he could send its output through the thunderbolt cable. Is that the only way? Or am I totally wrong?


Thanks!
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
August 03 2014 08:46 GMT
#1458
On August 03 2014 13:55 skyR wrote:
TN panel and terrible Windows scaling.


Would you get any 4k monitor that's under 1k?
There is no one like you in the universe.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 03 2014 09:34 GMT
#1459
If I was lacking desk space and coding / excel was my primary concern then yes I'd consider a 4k TN display. Otherwise, no. 2x 1440p IPS or 3x 1080p are much better setups imo.
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
August 03 2014 11:23 GMT
#1460
Anyone here using a P2414H@80Hz? Is the trade-off in not 120+Hz worth it to grab a quick and good looking IPS (note: the Dell has a very low input lag for an IPS). Can't decide between this one and a BenQ XL2411Z. Playing mostly Dota 2, SC2, BF4 on a 4770k, GTX780 - noted that reaching 144 FPS constantly isn't that easy in BF4 ^^

Currently still using my old 226bw (TN 60Hz) - so IPS would be an improvement colorwise and also 80Hz would be awesome (and i can reach that easily).
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