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On July 10 2013 05:23 S3ph wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey, guys, I have a following on my mind. I want to buy 2 x IPS monitors, but Im stuck on two from different manufacturers. First is LG Electronics Flatron IPS235P http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/23Zoll--58-42cm--LG-Electronics-Flatron-IPS235P-schwarz-1920x1080-1xHDMI-1-3-1xVGA-1xDVI_785086.htmlSecond is Dell UltraSharp U2312HM http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/23Zoll--58-42cm--Dell-UltraSharp-U2312HM-schwarz-1920x1080-1xVGA-1xDVI-1xDP_768321.htmlI personally would buy Dell, but... ...Im going to buy a Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/3072MB-Gigabyte-Radeon-HD-7950-WindForce-3X-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_786855.htmlThis GFX has DVI, HDMI and 2 mini DisplayPorts. LG has HDMI and DVI (what is VGA? :D ), is LCD-Monitor and S-IPS Panel. Dell has 1 DisplayPort instead of HDMI (like WTH Dell?! -.- I need HDMI, not 4 x USB!!!), is LED-Monitor and E-IPS Panel. It means I have to search for an adapter (and I have noooo idea about active or passive or anything else) from mini DP to DP to use dual monitors. Or I just buy 2 x LG and plug it in DVI+HDMI. I need your thoughts and ideas, guys. What should I take? Dell is praised, but has no HDMI. So I have to do extra work and spend extra € on an adapter. LG is cheaper, but still an IPS panel and has HDMI and a real PlugNPlay. Please help. 
An HDMI to DVI adapter is less expensive than a DP to DVI adapter. But why don't you just connect the monitor to the IGP rather than the 7950? Or a better idea would be just to get a GTX 760 which performs similar to a 7950 for less and most cards have two DVI outputs. And similarly, you can get a 7950 with two DVI. But if it were me, I'd just use the IGP, assuming you have a H or Z board.
And just so you know, most (all) monitors don't provide the HDMI cable. In some cases, they even give you a shitty VGA cable.
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***Sorry for the offtop***
Well, Ive made my mind according to this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137554¤tpage=1552
CPU: i5-4670k --> 205,66 € boxed with stock cooler
GFX: Gigabyte 7950 --> 267,26 €
MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H --> 135,20 €
PSU: Super Flower Golden Green PRO SF-450P14XE --> 65,23 €
HSF: Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A CPU cooler --> 36,05 €
RAM: G.Skill DIMM 8 GB DDR3-2400 Kit CL11-11-11-31 --> 71,90 € (alternate.de)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl (with 1 extra fan. 2 intake 1 outtake fans) --> 87,57 €
Xtra fan: Fractal Design Silent Series R2 140 mm --> 11,20 €
SSD: Samsung 840 pro 128 GB --> 114,14 €
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB SATA 3 --> 53,02 €
Soft: Windows 7 Home Edition OEM --> around 80,- €
Peripherials:
Monitors: 2 x LG Electronics Flatron IPS235P --> 169,00 € each
Keyboard: CM Storm Quickfire TK Cherry MX-Brown -->79,90 €
Mouse: Roccat Savu --> 44,99 €
Mousepad: SteelSeries QcK+ --> 13,18 €
Thank you, SkyR. Ive made my mind. It will be 2 x LGs. And a HDMI to DVI adapter. But I cant find it. I must be blind.
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Hey guys, my mom decided that she wants to get a new monitor to replace her current one she got ~8 years ago. Now I'm not the go-to person for monitors so I was wondering if you guys can help. Her budget is $150-250, and prefers the quality and clarity of the macbook screens. So I'm guessing something like a Dell Ultrasharp? (Sorry, that's the only decent monitor I have experience with.) Screen size doesn't matter. But here's the catch: It can only be Samsung or LG (talk about korean bias lol).
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-22EA63T-P-led-monitor
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-22EA53T-P-led-monitor
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-24EC53V-P-led-monitor
After a couple of hours of research, it boiled down to these three since I felt like opting for a lower end ISP would be better than a higher end TN, especially since all my mom does is read news articles all day. They can all be had for about $200 each where I live (even the 24"), but what exactly are the differences? The EA64 seems to have double the contrast ratio, but I've read from various sites that the contrast ratio is bogus. And it also has anti-glare as opposed to hard coating, which is what the other two have. Should I just go for the 24"?
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Hey guys.
I'm trying to decide between these monitors:
- LG IPS237L
- Dell u2312hm
- Asus mx239h
I'm kind of put off by the fact the Dell has no HDMI and i'd have to get an adapter, but it is recommended a lot of people so it probably must be a good monitor. What about the 24" and 27" versions of these monitors? I'm hesitant to buy a really big monitor, but i don't know if it would be TOO big because i can't really visualize how a 24/27" monitor would look on my desk. If you guys think the bigger sizes are really recommended then tell me, else i've just found these 23" alternatives on the internet because they do have HDMI. However if you guys tell me the Dell is really better then i'd just take that because i really want a good quality monitor sub 280 euros. Any other suggestions are more than welcome !
Thanks in advance!
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On July 13 2013 21:34 billy5000 wrote:Hey guys, my mom decided that she wants to get a new monitor to replace her current one she got ~8 years ago. Now I'm not the go-to person for monitors so I was wondering if you guys can help. Her budget is $150-250, and prefers the quality and clarity of the macbook screens. So I'm guessing something like a Dell Ultrasharp? (Sorry, that's the only decent monitor I have experience with.) Screen size doesn't matter. But here's the catch: It can only be Samsung or LG (talk about korean bias lol). http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-22EA63T-P-led-monitorhttp://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-22EA53T-P-led-monitorhttp://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-24EC53V-P-led-monitorAfter a couple of hours of research, it boiled down to these three since I felt like opting for a lower end ISP would be better than a higher end TN, especially since all my mom does is read news articles all day. They can all be had for about $200 each where I live (even the 24"), but what exactly are the differences? The EA64 seems to have double the contrast ratio, but I've read from various sites that the contrast ratio is bogus. And it also has anti-glare as opposed to hard coating, which is what the other two have. Should I just go for the 24"?
They're all the same. Contrast ratio is pointless since you know its IPS. The hard coat suggests that those monitors are using older panels with thicker antiglare coatings; the one with just an "anti-glare" coating should be using the newer AH-IPS panels. So it'll have better image quality in just about every way theoretically...I have no idea if it does or doesn't have the same anti-glare coating as the rest.
On July 17 2013 05:53 Risljaninasim wrote:Hey guys. I'm trying to decide between these monitors: - LG IPS237L- Dell u2312hm- Asus mx239hI'm kind of put off by the fact the Dell has no HDMI and i'd have to get an adapter, but it is recommended a lot of people so it probably must be a good monitor. What about the 24" and 27" versions of these monitors? I'm hesitant to buy a really big monitor, but i don't know if it would be TOO big because i can't really visualize how a 24/27" monitor would look on my desk. If you guys think the bigger sizes are really recommended then tell me, else i've just found these 23" alternatives on the internet because they do have HDMI. However if you guys tell me the Dell is really better then i'd just take that because i really want a good quality monitor sub 280 euros. Any other suggestions are more than welcome ! Thanks in advance!
The LG IPS237L and Asus MX239h have lighter matte antiglare coatings than the Dell U2312HM unless Dell has changed their panels they are using. So I'd personally choose those monitors over the Dell. As for quality, all of these lower end IPS panels are all basically the same. LG IPS237L doesn't have great motion performance but its acceptable I guess. It has the benefit of being much cheaper than the alternatives.
If you are willing to spring 230 Euros on a monitor, look at the Asus VG23AH if you don't wear glasses. Its the best 23" IPS option on the market in more ways than one (its in the OP).
As for 23" vs. 27", its your choice and personal preference. I wish I could tell you which is better but remember that you should at least be an arms length away from the monitor.
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Why are eizo monitors unaffordable in NA and why has NEC monitors somehow gone out of business!!!
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Eizo monitors are mostly unaffordable because most (I want to say all) are still made in Japan, most are using higher end parts and most are for the professional market. As far as I know, NEC Display is still around. They might not have direct operations in Canada anymore but they still exist and they still make good monitors.
Eizo and NEC aren't really known for consumer grade hardware. Eizo is a bit pricey for what you get but NEC's professional monitors are basically unmatched in the colour market in terms of monitor features and accompanying software. Of course you're paying for this.
The problem with Eizo and NEC is that they sell monitors that aren't really needed. Most people, even professionals, are happy enough with "good enough" hardware. If you ask me whether a Dell Ultrasharp or NEC is better, I'd say NEC without hesitation. If you asked me which I would buy, I would probably go with the Dell because its like 1/2 the price.
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On July 17 2013 10:30 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2013 05:53 Risljaninasim wrote:Hey guys. I'm trying to decide between these monitors: - LG IPS237L- Dell u2312hm- Asus mx239hI'm kind of put off by the fact the Dell has no HDMI and i'd have to get an adapter, but it is recommended a lot of people so it probably must be a good monitor. What about the 24" and 27" versions of these monitors? I'm hesitant to buy a really big monitor, but i don't know if it would be TOO big because i can't really visualize how a 24/27" monitor would look on my desk. If you guys think the bigger sizes are really recommended then tell me, else i've just found these 23" alternatives on the internet because they do have HDMI. However if you guys tell me the Dell is really better then i'd just take that because i really want a good quality monitor sub 280 euros. Any other suggestions are more than welcome ! Thanks in advance! The LG IPS237L and Asus MX239h have lighter matte antiglare coatings than the Dell U2312HM unless Dell has changed their panels they are using. So I'd personally choose those monitors over the Dell. As for quality, all of these lower end IPS panels are all basically the same. LG IPS237L doesn't have great motion performance but its acceptable I guess. It has the benefit of being much cheaper than the alternatives. If you are willing to spring 230 Euros on a monitor, look at the Asus VG23AH if you don't wear glasses. Its the best 23" IPS option on the market in more ways than one (its in the OP). As for 23" vs. 27", its your choice and personal preference. I wish I could tell you which is better but remember that you should at least be an arms length away from the monitor.
Thank you very much, you've answered all my questions.
I've looked at the Asus VG23AH on your recommendation, it looks nice but i do wear glasses and i've found mixed reviews (either amazing or not at all). I certainly saw what you meant by "best 23" IPS option on the market in more ways than one". I would take your word for it but I wouldn't like to take the risk, but who knows maybe i'll reconsider my decision if the negative reviews are false.
Do you maybe have another recommendation or do you think the Asus mx239h or LG IPS237L is good and i should just go with one of those? Any help is really appreciated since i haven't had this much trouble deciding since i put together my last PC, sigh...
Thanks.
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The negative reviews are definitely real. The problem is that (I think) polarized or transition eyeglasses screw with the passive 3D filter and that causes some people to see grey horizontal lines along the screen. If you can't see those lines, it is the best 23" 60hz monitor on the market because it has literally everything, even (fairly dodgy) 3D capabilities.
The Asus mx239h and LG IPS237L are fine though.
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I'm looking to add a new additional monitor to my setup. I currently have this (22", 1680x1050, 10000:1, 2ms), and I've been very happy with it for the past five years.
The one that caught my eye was the Asus VN247H and to be honest, I'm somewhat of an Asus fanboy because I think that they make good, quality products. The monitor comes with a 3 year warranty and goes for 175 € in Sweden.
This post caught my eye
On July 04 2013 06:04 skyR wrote:
U2412M is simply the most rounded 24" display in Canada. If you want something better than you're going to have to make sacrifices in price or another aspect of the display. and it seems like a fantastic monitor, so for reference I'd like to add that that monitor goes for 240€. Also, it seems that it comes with a 3 year and an on-the-spot switch warranty plan. Not really sure what that means, but the Asus one doesn't have it.
So my question now is: Which monitor would be the best choice? The only game I play on my monitor is SC2, other games and movies goes on my TV. I read a lot and I do programming.
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VN247H is just a thin-bezel 1080p TN panel with a poor stand. The U2412M being IPS, 1920x1200, and having a fully adjustable stand would be better in most cases.
If you ever needed to exchange the monitor then Dell will send you a new one before you have to send your defective one back to them (they will also provide a prepaid shipping label). ASUS also offers this kind of service on their higher-end models.
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Hi, Im planning on buying a new monitor and was wondering if someone could help me out a bit. I play wide range of games, mostly RTS, but nothing competitively and my computer has hard time reaching 120fps even with low settings in modern games. I also do some programming and lightweight image/video editing. 22-24" would probably be something I want.
My friend recommended me BenQ 24" XL2411T that would cost me 300€ in local store, its pretty much my max budget but Im not sure if its too much since the 120hz would probably be a waste for me.
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Hey everyone, Im thinking of getting a monitor to replace my samsung 2233rz. Id like to get a 120hz+, 1080p, 22" or larger, low response time monitor to replace it. I was looking at:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313
Is it good? Anyone know how good the colours are or what kind of coating it uses? And can anyone recommend a similar/better monitor in its price range? Thanks ahead of time!
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Yes, its pretty much the best 120hz monitor on the market right now. For that price, I don't think there's really a better one.
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On July 24 2013 18:27 Womwomwom wrote:
Yes, its pretty much the best 120hz monitor on the market right now. For that price, I don't think there's really a better one.
why is this better than the benq xl2420t? just about the same price range.
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I'm thinking about purchasing a korean ips monitor for myself, but my main concern is its longevity. I know it's probably too soon to ask, but has anyone or anyone that knows someone who's had one running 247 for over a year or two??
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On July 24 2013 20:10 sLideSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 18:27 Womwomwom wrote:
Yes, its pretty much the best 120hz monitor on the market right now. For that price, I don't think there's really a better one. why is this better than the benq xl2420t? just about the same price range.
The Asus doesn't have reverse ghosting like the Benq 120hz monitors do. Its kind of splitting hairs at this point but if they're about the same price range, there's no reason to choose the Benq over the Asus because the Asus is basically a better implementation of the exact same panel.
On July 24 2013 20:57 billy5000 wrote:
I'm thinking about purchasing a korean ips monitor for myself, but my main concern is its longevity. I know it's probably too soon to ask, but has anyone or anyone that knows someone who's had one running 247 for over a year or two??
Hard to say. People seem to be darn happy about the QNIX QX2710 however. One of my mates got one and I have to say that the value is there and it hasn't blown up after a couple months.
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Ok well, I was gonna get it, but I forgot my computer has an extremely old gpu and wasn't sure if it supported dual link dvi. I've been looking everywhere to see if it does (manual, support website, newegg, etc), but all they say is that it supports DVI. That's it. My gpu. I tried contacting them, but it seems like I need a warranty, which passed the 2 year mark for the product. Is there a way I can find out if it supports dual link dvi?
It does support resolutions up to 1600, so I'm guessing maybe it is indeed a dual link dvi? Am I correct to infer this?
One more thing: At the bottom of the ebay listing, it recommends a DVI-D port, but my gpu is DVI-I. Will it still work in this case?
Note: I don't play games on this computer.
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The pinout is for dual-link DVI-I (does digital or analog, unlike DVI-D, which is just digital). Should be fine. If it claims support for 2560x1600, it can handle dual-link signals.
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I've had a NEC multisynch 19" 4:3 lcd for well over 7-8 years and its still working perfectly while my 3 yo HP 24" 16:10 lcd is having issues, and was never as good to begin with (light bleeding, brightness issues, etc.). I'd buy a new 24-27" NEC monitor without hesitation if I could find a retailer. Alas I can only find them used or refurbished on e-bay and the likes.
The price you pay, often translates into quality and durability. My previous NEC 19" CRT, altough it cost me a fortune at that time (500$) lasted for upwards of 12 years!
I like the Dell IPS panel but they are pricey when out of sale, I dont know however if they sell with a glossy coating.
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