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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
November 19 2011 15:21 GMT
#1
Hi guys, I currently have a Phenom II x6 Black OC'ed to 4.0GHz. Sometimes I get CPU bottlenecked when trying to stream at 1080p through XSplit, so I was thinking about upgrading.

From all the research I've done, practically every 1080p streamer uses an i7, but I'm not willing to spend $300+new mobo. Do you guys think http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996 would work, or is there anyone here who streams 1080p with an AMD CPU who can give me some tips?
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Manex
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia156 Posts
November 19 2011 15:31 GMT
#2
First off, the product you selected is not an upgrade compared to the x6, and if its only a bit bottlenecked, you could try using a better cooler and OC'ing a bit harder.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 15:45:56
November 19 2011 15:44 GMT
#3
Solution: Go Intel. You have no real solution besides that sorry...its why every streamer uses an i7. That low end 2 module Bulldozer you were looking at will perform worse than your Phenom II and your processor is pretty much overclocked to the max.

If you want to spend a little more on the high end 4 module Bulldozer, you will, at worst, get lower performance than your Phenom II and at best, barely match the stock i7 2600.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
November 19 2011 18:33 GMT
#4
how do you know it's a cpu bottleneck?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
November 19 2011 18:40 GMT
#5
On November 20 2011 03:33 mahnini wrote:
how do you know it's a cpu bottleneck?



On the slower Xsplit presets (way heavier compression than standard) I can max my i7 @4ghz and lag stream even without sc2 running (and 2 cores dedicated to it)
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FlyingLigerz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 19:00:17
November 19 2011 18:59 GMT
#6
the thing about it is that you have the best cpu for that socket type. the phenoms use AMD3 socket while the newer bulldozers use AMD3+ socket types. so no matter what, you need a new mobo. even so, i dont think that cpu is better then the one you are using for streaming. streaming is an extremely high threading activity, so the 6 cores would be helpful.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 19 2011 19:26 GMT
#7
you can try affinity settings

http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-set-processor-affinity-to-an-application-in-windows/

set SC2 to the first two cores, xsplit to the remaining cores
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DarkEnergy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 19:58:52
November 19 2011 19:52 GMT
#8
I am currently trying to do the same as you.
I have the same processor but have trouble to get a stable oc running on 3.99 GHz now.
(Care so share your OC with me ? PM Please )
Streaming at 1600x1200 on 7-8 quality preset works fine here.
Tough i have a high upload i am using 5 Mb/s for the stream.

here a vod on the quality
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strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
November 19 2011 19:56 GMT
#9
I have the same problem. I got the AMD Phenom X6 T1100. I cant stream either, my comp FPS drops down to like ~30-40 on low settings. Lol
yourwhiteshadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States442 Posts
November 19 2011 20:18 GMT
#10
if you live near a microcenter you can get an i5-2500k + mobo for $220 and 8 gb of ram these days is dirt cheap ($20 AR). seriously, there isn't much more you can do.
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HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
November 19 2011 20:26 GMT
#11
Some 1080p streams are run using a dual-computer setup where one computer handles SC2 and the other the streaming part. I know this is the case for some of djWheat's shows, and I believe this is the case for the recent TSL3 too ("Orb" mentions it here). DreamHack also uses capture cards (link).

*If* you have a decent spare computer it's "only" ~180$ for something like these http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 19 2011 20:28 GMT
#12
On November 20 2011 05:18 yourwhiteshadow wrote:
if you live near a microcenter you can get an i5-2500k + mobo for $220 and 8 gb of ram these days is dirt cheap ($20 AR). seriously, there isn't much more you can do.


Where are you finding 8GB of RAM for $20? Maybe you'll find that once or twice a year, tops. On sale, like black friday, or some promo.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 19 2011 20:28 GMT
#13
2500k wouldn't help with streaming.

Phenom II x6 at 4ghz is pretty good, apart from that you can upgrade to 2600k or 2700k, bulldozer won't do anything. If you think even that won't be enough you're free to go for 3930K but that costs alot.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 19 2011 20:29 GMT
#14
On November 20 2011 05:28 Shikyo wrote:
2500k wouldn't help with streaming.

Phenom II x6 at 4ghz is pretty good, apart from that you can upgrade to 2600k or 2700k, bulldozer won't do anything. If you think even that won't be enough you're free to go for 3930K but that costs alot.


A 2500k is nearly as good as a 2600k for streaming, is it not? I believe a 2500k would definitely help streaming when OC'd.
h0oTiS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States101 Posts
November 19 2011 20:34 GMT
#15
i highly doubt your getting a cpu bottleneck, have you checked task manager to see if all cores are maxed?, unless your recording the video locally as well as xslplit,more information would really help like what video card you have or what internet connection you have because of how demanding 1080p is
The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 19 2011 20:40 GMT
#16
On November 20 2011 00:21 Cel.erity wrote:
Hi guys, I currently have a Phenom II x6 Black OC'ed to 4.0GHz. Sometimes I get CPU bottlenecked when trying to stream at 1080p through XSplit, so I was thinking about upgrading.

From all the research I've done, practically every 1080p streamer uses an i7, but I'm not willing to spend $300+new mobo. Do you guys think http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996 would work, or is there anyone here who streams 1080p with an AMD CPU who can give me some tips?


There is no possible way you're getting a CPU bottleneck. I use a 3.5GHz Phenom II X6 to stream 1080p and I have zero issues at all. Last I checked I don't even break 70% CPU with Battlefield 3 going.

Your bottleneck/issue is somewhere else.
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alokin
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada269 Posts
November 19 2011 20:44 GMT
#17
hey there,

I have a AMD phenom x4 clocked to 4.20 GHz and a upload speed of 5mb/s and I am able to stream 1080p StarCraft II and League of Legends. X-Split settings are

bitrates at 2900kb/s
fps is at 15
resolution obviously 1920x1080

I really think the reason is people try to stream at too high of a FPS on AMD CPU's and they just can't pull it off for a 1080p stream..

Here's a sample of my stream:
alokinTV
twitch.tv/alokin1 come join me!
h0oTiS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States101 Posts
November 19 2011 20:47 GMT
#18
On November 20 2011 05:44 alokin wrote:
hey there,

I have a AMD phenom x4 clocked to 4.20 GHz and a upload speed of 5mb/s and I am able to stream 1080p StarCraft II and League of Legends. X-Split settings are

bitrates at 2900kb/s
fps is at 15
resolution obviously 1920x1080

I really think the reason is people try to stream at too high of a FPS on AMD CPU's and they just can't pull it off for a 1080p stream..

Here's a sample of my stream:
alokinTV

your not streaming at 15 fps thats not even watchable
The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference
alokin
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada269 Posts
November 19 2011 20:49 GMT
#19
On November 20 2011 05:47 h0oTiS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 05:44 alokin wrote:
hey there,

I have a AMD phenom x4 clocked to 4.20 GHz and a upload speed of 5mb/s and I am able to stream 1080p StarCraft II and League of Legends. X-Split settings are

bitrates at 2900kb/s
fps is at 15
resolution obviously 1920x1080

I really think the reason is people try to stream at too high of a FPS on AMD CPU's and they just can't pull it off for a 1080p stream..

Here's a sample of my stream:
alokinTV

your not streaming at 15 fps thats not even watchable

No I'm only lying for fun.
twitch.tv/alokin1 come join me!
StuartLove
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany267 Posts
November 19 2011 21:01 GMT
#20
i5 2500k is the best way to go.
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