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Building my first comp, 800$ budget.

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ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 16:02:26
November 10 2011 00:39 GMT
#1
What is your budget?

800$

What is your resolution?

Either 1280x1024 or 1680x1050

What are you using it for?

Gaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?

No where in the near future...

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP. I would like to order the parts by the end of the week.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No

Do you need an Operating System?

Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Nope.

Where are you buying your parts from?

NCIX.com

Any help would be greatly appreciated

EDIT:
Current build:
Cost: $695 (Before tax, shipping & rebates)
Core i5 2500 @ $215
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&vpn=BX80623I52500K&manufacture=Intel
pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/BX80623I52500K/Intel/

GIGABYTE GA-Z68M-D2H @ $97
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63074
pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128523

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544
pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503

Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $150
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=58225&promoid=1282

XFX Core Edition 450 @ $53 ($33 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC3542 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1282

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $59 + $10 shipping = $69
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/B004TLIEHC/
^Why cant I buy from NCIX and pricematch amazon?

Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM @ $26
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=45244&vpn=IHAS124-04&manufacture=Liteon
OR
Samsung SH-S243D @ $16
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45667&promoid=1282 (promo ends soon)

What should I change? and is a 450W power supply enough?
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 10 2011 00:40 GMT
#2
Why did you make your own topic . You clearly had just been in the Computer Resource Build Thread... I know some people like to, I just think it's unnecessary.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 10 2011 00:48 GMT
#3
Wait for new sale tonight.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 00:59:49
November 10 2011 00:58 GMT
#4
On November 10 2011 09:48 skyR wrote:
Wait for new sale tonight.

Are you a wizard? damn clairvoyant. Watching linus every day doesn't even tell me that much.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 10 2011 04:10 GMT
#5
Totals to $771 before mail in rebate:

Core i5 2400 @ $190 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD5176 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57964

Gigabyte H67M-D2 @ $85
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59419

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544

Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $150 ($130 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=58225&promoid=1282

XFX Core Edition 450 @ $53 ($33 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC3542 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1282

Crucial M4 64gb @ $113 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11230DR4284 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60444

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $59 + $10 shipping = $69
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/B004TLIEHC/

DVD Burner @ $16
http://ncix.com/products/i?sku=45667&promoid=1282
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 10 2011 22:06 GMT
#6
That hard drive is brutal.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 10 2011 22:21 GMT
#7
SSD imo a waste to get assuming you can get the HDD at that price. For the 113$ I'd rather upgrade to a 560 Ti or something similiar. IMO getting SSD is only correct for a 1000$+ budget.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 22:36:53
November 10 2011 22:34 GMT
#8
Don't get a 64GB SSD. Go for the 128GB. I know it might feel like you can make that work, but it really is a very small amount of space. I bought and 64GB and it just isn't big enough. Bought a 128GB Crucial M4 last night actually.


On November 11 2011 07:21 Shikyo wrote:
SSD imo a waste to get assuming you can get the HDD at that price. For the 113$ I'd rather upgrade to a 560 Ti or something similiar. IMO getting SSD is only correct for a 1000$+ budget.


I *totally* disagree. An SSD makes such a gigantic difference that I can't imagine recommending anyone making a new computer get anything else. Its just so worth it x_x
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 10 2011 22:41 GMT
#9
On November 11 2011 07:34 Mohdoo wrote:
Don't get a 64GB SSD. Go for the 128GB. I know it might feel like you can make that work, but it really is a very small amount of space. I bought and 64GB and it just isn't big enough. Bought a 128GB Crucial M4 last night actually.


Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 07:21 Shikyo wrote:
SSD imo a waste to get assuming you can get the HDD at that price. For the 113$ I'd rather upgrade to a 560 Ti or something similiar. IMO getting SSD is only correct for a 1000$+ budget.


I *totally* disagree. An SSD makes such a gigantic difference that I can't imagine recommending anyone making a new computer get anything else. Its just so worth it x_x

Starting a program faster is more "worth it" over having 40% more fps?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
discodancer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States280 Posts
November 11 2011 05:04 GMT
#10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.765925&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL111011&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL111011-_-EMC-111011-Index-_-Combo-_-Combo765925-L0E

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.765928&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL111011&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL111011-_-EMC-111011-Index-_-Combo-_-Combo765928-L0D

Need a GPU that's it? I don't know, tell me why these are bad?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 11 2011 17:36 GMT
#11
On November 11 2011 14:04 discodancer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.765925&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL111011&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL111011-_-EMC-111011-Index-_-Combo-_-Combo765925-L0E

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.765928&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL111011&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL111011-_-EMC-111011-Index-_-Combo-_-Combo765928-L0D

Need a GPU that's it? I don't know, tell me why these are bad?


Those are bad because OP is from Canada and Newegg.com doesn't ship to Canada?

$510 combo is bad because there are less expensive and higher quality units than the Coolermaster.

$710 bundle is bad because it's a 2700k paired with a D2H. A D2H is highly unlikely capable of 5GHz+ and if you aren't going for 5GHz+ than why pay a $40 premium over the 2600k? You're also paying at least a $25 premium on memory for a one or maybe two FPS gain when this could be put toawards a better graphics card...

Not to mention the HDD is overpriced in both combos.

And both of those bundles aren't deals either since equivalent or better components can be had for the same total. The bundle discount is only helping with the poor selection and overpriced components to make it seem not as bad.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 12 2011 00:54 GMT
#12
Newegg bundle deals are retarded. They had a potentially promising looking Shell Shocker this morning with like a $60 discount, until you realize that they're pricing the 500GB spinspoint 7200RPM HDD originally at $115... doesn't look so hot then.
ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
November 13 2011 22:58 GMT
#13
do you all suggest skyR's build?

Thanks btw
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 13 2011 23:14 GMT
#14
DVD burner is out of stock and hard drive price rose (didn't check the price matches, which may be worse now because you waited). skyR almost always finds the best deals and puts together parts that make sense for the intended usage and price point. Aside from changes in the past few days, yeah, that's what you want.
Childplay
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada263 Posts
November 13 2011 23:14 GMT
#15
id say go with skyR's build, he knows what hes doing. Also, try to just get an ssd for storage if you use less than 120gbs (like me =D), cus HDDs are expensive as hell right now after the flood
ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 23:29:28
November 13 2011 23:28 GMT
#16
Crucial M4 64gb @ $113 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11230DR4284 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60444

^
What is this used for? There was a HDD posted already of 500gb?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 13 2011 23:45 GMT
#17
The Crucial M4 is an SSD. Functionally, you use it like any other storage drive, except that it's a lot faster.

(Hint: install the operating system and commonly-used programs on that, such that they can load a lot faster, and create temp files / write stuff / do background things a lot faster as well)

If you would rather just use the hard drive for everything, you can leave out the SSD.
ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
November 13 2011 23:58 GMT
#18
Yeah I rather use the HDD for everything and use that 120$ for other parts
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 14 2011 00:02 GMT
#19
There's not much you can spend the $120 on when you aren't overclocking and not playing at 1080p.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 14 2011 01:01 GMT
#20
you can buy a 1080p monitor for $120 or change the graphics card to GTX 560 Ti as it's still going to improve your experience in 1680x1050 and going to help for the future as well.

Or you can just save the money, a valid choice as well.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 02:17:02
November 14 2011 02:12 GMT
#21
Cost before taxes, mail and rebates & shipping: 700$

Core i5 2500 @ $220
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&vpn=BX80623I52500K&manufacture=Intel
pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD1527&vpn=BX80623I52500K&manufacture=INTEL

Gigabyte H67M-D2 @ $85
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59419

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544
pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503

Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $140
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=58225&promoid=1282
pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD8375&vpn=GV-R685OC-1GD&manufacture=GIGABYTE

XFX Core Edition 450 @ $53 ($33 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC3542 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1282

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $59 + $10 shipping = $69
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/B004TLIEHC/
^Why cant I buy from NCIX and pricematch amazon?

Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM @ $26
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=45244&vpn=IHAS124-04&manufacture=Liteon
(Dvd burner Skyr suggested says page not found, is that one alright?)

Any suggestions? Any upgrades that would make a huge difference in performance that would justify going over my budget ?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 14 2011 02:22 GMT
#22
Why are you getting 2500k if you aren't overclocking? Why are you getting such an overpriced mobo? Why aren't you getting the i5 2400 instead for much cheaper?

Why would you pricematch a cheaper 6850 with a costier one? Confused.

What I'd do: Buy a hyper 212+ or something similiar and change the mobo to a cheap P67, you're already paying a lot for a mobo and P67 is going to have all those features anyway.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 14 2011 03:20 GMT
#23
The DVD burner: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45667&promoid=1282

You can't pricematch the HDD becauase the place you're buying from isn't a Canadian retailer.

If you're getting a 2500k, you want to pricematch to $215: http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/BX80623I52500K/Intel/

Mail in rebate is not included in your check out total so you need to pricematch the price before mail in rebate.

The H67M-D2 is actually not overpriced. It's one of the least expensive ones in Canada. But if you're getting a 2500k, you should get a P67 or Z68 motherboard instead so that you can overclock it, a Gigabyte Z68M-D2H can be pricematched to $97 using http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128523 : http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63074
ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 16:01:57
November 16 2011 15:59 GMT
#24
Cost: $695 (Before tax, shipping & rebates)
Core i5 2500 @ $215
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&vpn=BX80623I52500K&manufacture=Intel
pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232639/BX80623I52500K/Intel/

GIGABYTE GA-Z68M-D2H @ $97
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63074
pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128523

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544
pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503

Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $150
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=58225&promoid=1282

XFX Core Edition 450 @ $53 ($33 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC3542 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1282

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $59 + $10 shipping = $69
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/B004TLIEHC/
^Why cant I buy from NCIX and pricematch amazon?

Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM @ $26
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=45244&vpn=IHAS124-04&manufacture=Liteon
OR
Samsung SH-S243D @ $16
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45667&promoid=1282 (promo ends soon)

Added the changes, but how do I know if 450W is enough? Anything else?
Thanks guys
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 16 2011 16:03 GMT
#25
CPU about 160w max heavily overclocked to like 5ghz, 6850 about 120w max, rest of the stuff maybe 20-30w, and this is in max stress.

League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 22:57:31
November 16 2011 22:54 GMT
#26
i've been told to change the psu to silverstone/corsair/seasonic PSU 650/750w & not to skimp on a bad psu
thoughts?


also, isnt this a better choice for ram:
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=57869&vpn=KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1282
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 16 2011 22:56 GMT
#27
Did you read my post? Try doing so
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 22:58:57
November 16 2011 22:57 GMT
#28
XFX Core Edition is manufactured by Seasonic and it's the exact same design as the Corsair TXv2. If you consider XFX bad than all the Seasonic manufactured Silverstones and Corsairs are also terrible.

If you want to waste money on an unnecessary power supply than you're welcome to.


Mushkins run at 1333MHz 1.5v

HyperX runs at 1600MHz at 1.65v

If you want guaranteed 1600MHz for 1 FPS than you're welcome to but Mushkins will easily run 1600MHz at 1.65v and can probably do at 1.5v as well.
ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
November 16 2011 23:03 GMT
#29
On November 17 2011 07:57 skyR wrote:
XFX Core Edition is manufactured by Seasonic and it's the exact same design as the Corsair TXv2. If you consider XFX bad than all the Seasonic manufactured Silverstones and Corsairs are also terrible.

If you want to waste money on an unnecessary power supply than you're welcome to.


Mushkins run at 1333MHz 1.5v

HyperX runs at 1600MHz at 1.65v

If you want guaranteed 1600MHz for 1 FPS than you're welcome to but Mushkins will easily run 1600MHz at 1.65v and can probably do at 1.5v as well.


Well since I have no idea how to overclock my RAM then I might aswell get the HyperX
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 16 2011 23:10 GMT
#30
If you have no idea how to overclock than why are you getting a 2500k? -.-
TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
November 16 2011 23:24 GMT
#31
Just my 2 cents, If you arent planning on overclocking, Why would you buy a 3rd party heatsink that most likely voids all your warranties? You could spend that 55$ on a better GPU or HD etc..
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 23:30:51
November 16 2011 23:29 GMT
#32
On November 17 2011 08:03 ridic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:57 skyR wrote:
XFX Core Edition is manufactured by Seasonic and it's the exact same design as the Corsair TXv2. If you consider XFX bad than all the Seasonic manufactured Silverstones and Corsairs are also terrible.

If you want to waste money on an unnecessary power supply than you're welcome to.


Mushkins run at 1333MHz 1.5v

HyperX runs at 1600MHz at 1.65v

If you want guaranteed 1600MHz for 1 FPS than you're welcome to but Mushkins will easily run 1600MHz at 1.65v and can probably do at 1.5v as well.


Well since I have no idea how to overclock my RAM then I might aswell get the HyperX

Realize it runs at 1333 by default?
On November 17 2011 08:24 TheGiftedApe wrote:
Just my 2 cents, If you arent planning on overclocking, Why would you buy a 3rd party heatsink that most likely voids all your warranties? You could spend that 55$ on a better GPU or HD etc..

what the.. no it doesn't. Though I agree it's silly to buy an alternative heatsink if you aren't overclocking unless it's a quiet solution designed for stock.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ranir
Profile Joined June 2011
413 Posts
November 17 2011 00:03 GMT
#33
http://www.geforce.com/Optimize/OPS/Starcraft-2-GeForce-GTX-460-OPS I know it's not the same card as you want but its comparable to the gtx 460. As you can see, with your resolution, you will play at 70 fps average on the highest settings which is more than needed ( 60 fps is the max an eye can feel a difference). But in 4v4 you will def not get that fps but for the card you are good. Might want to get a better PSU, 450 W seems a bit low. The CPU is perfect same with the ram and you found an amazing price for the hard drive. So if you want to add a little bit more money, go for an upgrade on your mobo or gpu. Good luck.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 17 2011 00:19 GMT
#34
how is 450W low when his system uses maybe 280W under extreme load? Please tell me
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ridic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 01:56:42
November 17 2011 01:55 GMT
#35
On November 17 2011 08:10 skyR wrote:
If you have no idea how to overclock than why are you getting a 2500k? -.-


I know how to overclock my cpu, I can read up on overclocking gpu/ram I guess, but I'm just to lazy to.. I will eventually.

Anyway, so the build is good, nothing to be changed? And I've been looking for a case around the same price that is nicer, but how do I judge whether how good a case is?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 17 2011 02:00 GMT
#36
Better case than Haf 912 at 55$? Good luck with that.

You could try BitFenix Shinobi or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112318 I guess
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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