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ihchulk
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany60 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 18:56:34
February 04 2014 18:41 GMT
#8701
On February 05 2014 03:14 skyR wrote:
Yes you'd be able to do that for a 270x. U2312HM doesn't support daisy chaining so you will need to buy a MST hub. Alternatively if you are using a modern Intel system, you can run three displays off the R9 270x and two displays off the IGP.


Yeah i was thinking about IGP too, but just bought a Xeon without IGP a month ago. But to get a clear answer, i can't just buy a card with all the fitting connectors (2x DVI, 2x miniDP, 1x HDMI) and use them?

I'm just asking because the older generation cards (like the 560ti i have right now) have 3 connector but only support two displays at a time.

EDIT

Okay so i've read up on Eyefinity stuff and found out that i CAN use 2x DVI and 2x miniDP. The remaining HDMI output i would have to use an adapter for.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 18:58:05
February 04 2014 18:56 GMT
#8702
Yes you should be able to do that.

Not sure what you read but why would you need an adapter for HDMI? It's either going to work or it won't work. The new cards can support three displays natively via DVI DVI and HDMI.
ihchulk
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany60 Posts
February 04 2014 19:07 GMT
#8703
Adapter as in MST hub as you already mentioned. Read that on the AMD Eyefinity page:

"The first two monitors can connect to the graphics card with any display output on your product: HDMI, VGA, DVI or DisplayPort.

The third (or greater) display must be connected to the graphics card via DisplayPort."

Guess i'll have to research on some maufacturers websites to find out about custom design cards.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 04 2014 19:28 GMT
#8704
Yes that page would be outdated. The new R9 200 series cards and GTX 700 series cards all are capable of three displays via HDMI DVI DVI.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
February 06 2014 04:42 GMT
#8705
On January 29 2014 17:59 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 05:05 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On January 29 2014 04:35 Cyro wrote:
On January 28 2014 15:42 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Not entirely sure it is simple, but I will ask here anyway. My computer randomly shuts off and restarts. No warning, no crash log, no event in the reliability monitor, no obvious sign of doing something to shut it off. It seems to mostly happen overnight when I am not using it or when the computer is idle (can't remember it happening while playing a game). I can confirm it isnt a windows update or anything though because it just happened when I was writing something and I had paused to think of what to type next.

Is there any way to figure out what is happening?


You see nothing in event viewer?

Just checked again, I had only checked the reliability monitor which apparently doesn't update all the time. It now shows a "Windows was not properly shut down" error.

Looking at the event viewer I see "Crash dump initialization failed!" for something called volmgr as the shutdown happened (or shortly after it happened).

I also apparently get this error every 8 minutes "Unable to collect System Pagefile performance data. The first four bytes (DWORD) of the Data section contains the status code." from PerfOS

So, the good news is that you apparently do have a BSOD, instead of the PC crashing without any explanation, but there's something going on with your page file. The Windows kernel can't create a record of the BSOD without the page file. Here's how to first create the page file, and second how to make sure the BSOD gets recorded:

Page file settings: http://i.imgur.com/KIryBrY.png (at the top you select the drive it's on, you can manually create something very small, at least 16MB, or let the system take care of it which will be an 8GB file or something)

Do this to get a record to investigate the BSOD: http://i.imgur.com/pZn2nHd.png

Those settings look very similar on Windows 7 and 8.

After you get a BSOD, a program to investigate is called "BlueScreenView": http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html

BlueScreenView will highlight the kernel modules that were active when the BSOD happened. Those can be drivers if you are lucky. Type the file names into a web search to get a hint on what it's about.


Thanks for that. I forgot I disabled pagefile at recommendations by people due to SSD for my OS.

I have gotten 2 blue screens so far:
020514-9172-01.dmp 2/5/2014 10:30:47 PM DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL 0x000000d1 fffff800`03cc3000 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000001 fffff880`0750cbb1 monitor.sys monitor.sys+27a8bb1 x64 ntoskrnl.exe+75bc0 C:\Windows\Minidump\020514-9172-01.dmp 4 15 7601 289,640 2/5/2014 10:33:56 PM

and

020314-8720-01.dmp 2/3/2014 9:18:04 PM KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED 0x0000001e ffffffff`c0000005 fffff800`0270df60 00000000`00000000 ffffffff`ffffffff rdbss.sys rdbss.sys+97fd001 x64 ntoskrnl.exe+75bc0 C:\Windows\Minidump\020314-8720-01.dmp 4 15 7601 289,640 2/3/2014 9:20:11 PM

So DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL monitor.sys
and
KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED rdbss.sys
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 19:30:13
February 06 2014 19:27 GMT
#8706
@TheRabidDeer:

In the lower pane of BlueScreenView's program window, see if it highlights some more file names beside those "monitor.sys" and "rdbss.sys". It might give you a hint about some driver (or its hardware) behaving badly.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
February 06 2014 20:40 GMT
#8707
Can anyone tell me if there is anything unusual about these traceroutes and pathpings?

+ Show Spoiler +
  1    50 ms    99 ms    99 ms  speedtouch.lan [192.168.1.254] 
2 32 ms 24 ms 26 ms s53758001.adsl.online.nl [83.117.128.1]
3 28 ms 24 ms 25 ms V59.har1e-Gv-Hwk.nl.euro.net [194.134.18.97]
4 36 ms 24 ms 23 ms 194.134.18.98
5 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms ae3.cr1-asd8.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.215]
6 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms ae0.cr1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.218]
7 * 24 ms * ae0.br1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.217]
8 111 ms 209 ms 211 ms te2-7.ccr01.ams05.atlas.cogentco.com [149.11.80.57]
9 33 ms 24 ms 24 ms te0-7-0-4.ccr21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.81]
10 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms be2261.ccr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.30]
11 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms be2044.mag21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.74.134]
12 31 ms 30 ms 31 ms ffm-b12-link.telia.net [213.248.92.141]
13 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.135.8]
14 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms ffm-b10-link.telia.net [213.155.134.135]

+ Show Spoiler +
  1    28 ms    99 ms   100 ms  speedtouch.lan [192.168.1.254] 
2 50 ms 45 ms 79 ms s53758001.adsl.online.nl [83.117.128.1]
3 34 ms 28 ms 24 ms V59.har1e-Gv-Hwk.nl.euro.net [194.134.18.97]
4 23 ms 24 ms 23 ms 194.134.18.98
5 61 ms 52 ms 25 ms ae3.cr1-asd8.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.215]
6 34 ms 30 ms 25 ms ae0.cr1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.218]
7 24 ms 22 ms 28 ms ae0.br1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.217]
8 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms te2-7.ccr01.ams05.atlas.cogentco.com [149.11.80.57]
9 25 ms 25 ms 49 ms te0-7-0-4.ccr21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.81]
10 33 ms 31 ms 32 ms be2261.ccr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.30]
11 42 ms 32 ms 31 ms be2044.mag21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.74.134]
12 102 ms 44 ms 44 ms telia.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.14.90]
13 31 ms 42 ms 31 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.135.8]
14 34 ms 32 ms 48 ms ffm-b10-link.telia.net [213.155.134.135]

+ Show Spoiler +
  0  PC.lan [192.168.1.64] 
1 speedtouch.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 s53758001.adsl.online.nl [83.117.128.1]
3 V59.har1e-Gv-Hwk.nl.euro.net [194.134.18.97]
4 194.134.18.98
5 ae3.cr1-asd8.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.215]
6 ae0.cr1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.218]
7 ae0.br1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.217]
8 te2-7.ccr01.ams05.atlas.cogentco.com [149.11.80.57]
9 te0-7-0-4.ccr21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.81]
10 be2261.ccr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.30]
11 be2044.mag21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.74.134]
12 ffm-b12-link.telia.net [213.248.92.141]
13 ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.135.8]
14 ffm-b10-link.telia.net [80.91.251.248]
15 * * *
Statistieken worden nu gedurende een periode van 350 seconden berekend...
Van bron - hier Dit knooppunt / deze verbinding
Hop RTT Verl./verzonden Verloren/verz. Adres
0 PC.lan [192.168.1.64]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% speedtouch.lan [192.168.1.254]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 29ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% s53758001.adsl.online.nl [83.117.128.1]
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 38ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% V59.har1e-Gv-Hwk.nl.euro.net [194.134.18.97]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 194.134.18.98
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% ae3.cr1-asd8.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.215]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% ae0.cr1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.218]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 27ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ae0.br1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.217]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 41ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% te2-7.ccr01.ams05.atlas.cogentco.com [149.11.80.57]
0/ 100 = 0% |
9 26ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% te0-7-0-4.ccr21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.81]
0/ 100 = 0% |
10 32ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% be2261.ccr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.30]
0/ 100 = 0% |
11 34ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% be2044.mag21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.74.134]
0/ 100 = 0% |
12 37ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ffm-b12-link.telia.net [213.248.92.141]
0/ 100 = 0% |
13 40ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.135.8]
0/ 100 = 0% |
14 38ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ffm-b10-link.telia.net [80.91.251.248]

+ Show Spoiler +
  0  PC.lan [192.168.1.64] 
1 speedtouch.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 s53758001.adsl.online.nl [83.117.128.1]
3 V59.har1e-Gv-Hwk.nl.euro.net [194.134.18.97]
4 194.134.18.98
5 ae3.cr1-asd8.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.215]
6 ae0.cr1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.218]
7 * ae0.br1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.217]
8 te2-7.ccr01.ams05.atlas.cogentco.com [149.11.80.57]
9 te0-7-0-4.ccr21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.81]
10 be2261.ccr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.30]
11 be2044.mag21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.74.134]
12 telia.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.14.90]
13 ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.135.8]
14 ffm-b10-link.telia.net [80.91.247.185]
15 * * *
Statistieken worden nu gedurende een periode van 350 seconden berekend...
Van bron - hier Dit knooppunt / deze verbinding
Hop RTT Verl./verzonden Verloren/verz. Adres
0 PC.lan [192.168.1.64]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% speedtouch.lan [192.168.1.254]
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 28ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% s53758001.adsl.online.nl [83.117.128.1]
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 32ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% V59.har1e-Gv-Hwk.nl.euro.net [194.134.18.97]
2/ 100 = 2% |
4 27ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% 194.134.18.98
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 --- 100/ 100 =100% 98/ 100 = 98% ae3.cr1-asd8.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.215]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 --- 100/ 100 =100% 98/ 100 = 98% ae0.cr1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.218]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 28ms 4/ 100 = 4% 2/ 100 = 2% ae0.br1-asd6.nl.euro.net [194.134.161.217]
0/ 100 = 0% |
8 42ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% te2-7.ccr01.ams05.atlas.cogentco.com [149.11.80.57]
0/ 100 = 0% |
9 28ms 3/ 100 = 3% 1/ 100 = 1% te0-7-0-4.ccr21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.81]
0/ 100 = 0% |
10 35ms 4/ 100 = 4% 2/ 100 = 2% be2261.ccr21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.30]
0/ 100 = 0% |
11 35ms 2/ 100 = 2% 0/ 100 = 0% be2044.mag21.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.74.134]
1/ 100 = 1% |
12 40ms 7/ 100 = 7% 4/ 100 = 4% telia.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.14.90]
0/ 100 = 0% |
13 42ms 6/ 100 = 6% 3/ 100 = 3% ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.135.8]
0/ 100 = 0% |
14 39ms 3/ 100 = 3% 0/ 100 = 0% ffm-b10-link.telia.net [80.91.247.185]


I've been having problems with my internet for months. My latency in WoW keeps fluctuating. One second my abilities react instantly and the next they take 200 ms. Furthermore, sometimes my entire internet just halts - for some strange reason Skype keeps working fine, including voice, but the rest of my internet becomes extremely sluggish. Web pages loading so slowly that my browser reports closing tags missing (like </div>, etc), loading partly or not loading at all. WoW stops working except for the chat which still works fine (usually). This halting can last anywhere from a few minutes to half an hour and sometimes happens at exactly the same time as the day before. Resetting the router does not work, neither does changing router.

This is severely impacting my ability to enjoy games that rely on a constant, low latency. I'm going to call my ISP soon but if anyone of you can see something in the above tests that I should definitely report to my ISP I would be glad to know.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
February 07 2014 03:55 GMT
#8708
On February 07 2014 04:27 Ropid wrote:
@TheRabidDeer:

In the lower pane of BlueScreenView's program window, see if it highlights some more file names beside those "monitor.sys" and "rdbss.sys". It might give you a hint about some driver (or its hardware) behaving badly.

The one that is in common with both is ntoskrnl.exe
ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+c0738 fffff800`02666000 fffff800`02c4b000 0x005e5000 0x521ea035 8/28/2013 7:13:25 PM Microsoft® Windows® Operating System NT Kernel & System 6.1.7601.18247 (win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532) Microsoft Corporation C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe

For the one on the 3rd there is a 3rd one NDProxy.sys
BarneyNapalm
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark370 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 05:26:44
February 07 2014 05:24 GMT
#8709
Hey guys. I have a problem with browsing teamliquid.
Whenever I open teamliquid in any browser my internet browser just freezes (both firefox and chrome.) Usually firefox gives a message about a script that doesn't work. I can't remember the exact name, but it is somthing with top banner, ad and the number 32. I am on my phone right now, but I can recreate it if necessary

It is ONLY on teamliquid btw. Thanks in advance.

Edit. What I mean with only on teamliquid is that I only have issues browsing teamliquid, any other website works fine
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 08:14:43
February 07 2014 08:14 GMT
#8710
I get green or black screen when i watch bisu's stream.
Some days it works tho.

I tried today to watch bisu, didnt work.
I tried mongs stream, it worked.

I tried yesterday to watch SSL tournament stream, it didnt work. Green/black screen.

I have tried different solutions to this i found on google, doesnt fix it.
So i clicked by accident on bisudaggers stream(he were streaming the tournament SSL tournament), and it worked.

So solutions i have tried is
graphic driver updated
reinstall the flash player(newest version etc)
uncheck the box in adobe flash player(dont remember what the name is).

..Hmm all i can think of. Oh ye something in internet explorer..

yada yada yada
Anyone know what is wrong/how to fix?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
February 07 2014 12:42 GMT
#8711
Yes. You can't watch snipealot streams at source quality. Reduce it to hi/medium/low and you will be able to see Bisu!!! It happens to everyone. Enjoy!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 15:32:50
February 07 2014 15:23 GMT
#8712
Does a SSD help GPU (or CPU?) temperature a lot? With HDD I had ~38°C at Sc2 menue and it increased to ~65°C at Sc2 Lategame. Right now with my SSD, maximum is ~42°C. (AMD X6 T1055 & GeForce GTX460 1GB).
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 07 2014 15:58 GMT
#8713
SSDs have nothing to do with temperature of the GPU or CPU. I guess it takes up less space and blocks less air but that's sort of negligible...
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 18:12:16
February 07 2014 18:11 GMT
#8714
On February 07 2014 12:55 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 04:27 Ropid wrote:
@TheRabidDeer:

In the lower pane of BlueScreenView's program window, see if it highlights some more file names beside those "monitor.sys" and "rdbss.sys". It might give you a hint about some driver (or its hardware) behaving badly.

The one that is in common with both is ntoskrnl.exe
ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+c0738 fffff800`02666000 fffff800`02c4b000 0x005e5000 0x521ea035 8/28/2013 7:13:25 PM Microsoft® Windows® Operating System NT Kernel & System 6.1.7601.18247 (win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532) Microsoft Corporation C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe

For the one on the 3rd there is a 3rd one NDProxy.sys

All those files mentioned seem to be Windows files. Perhaps something got corrupted after a crash in the past? Windows 7 and 8 both have a feature to check and fix corrupted Windows files. To access that, you open a command prompt window as Administrator and use this command:

sfc /scannow

If that does not find anything, it might be hardware or its drivers not working right. I don't know how to diagnose that best. Maybe you remember doing something that might be the cause? Did you play with BIOS settings or graphics driver settings for example?

Something you might want to look into is the "driver verifier" method that's built into Windows. You can find guides for that online. Using it is pretty involved. If there really are problems, you will experience a lot of BSODs. You might also not even be able to boot into Windows while the driver verifier stuff is enabled, so you can get somewhat trapped with a broken Windows. You really need to read a guide if you want to use the Windows driver verifier to diagnose your problems.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
February 07 2014 18:17 GMT
#8715
On February 07 2014 21:42 BisuDagger wrote:
Yes. You can't watch snipealot streams at source quality. Reduce it to hi/medium/low and you will be able to see Bisu!!! It happens to everyone. Enjoy!


Thanks for answer.
Will try it when he streams next time
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 18:53:00
February 07 2014 18:49 GMT
#8716
On February 07 2014 14:24 BarneyNapalm wrote:
Hey guys. I have a problem with browsing teamliquid.
Whenever I open teamliquid in any browser my internet browser just freezes (both firefox and chrome.) Usually firefox gives a message about a script that doesn't work. I can't remember the exact name, but it is somthing with top banner, ad and the number 32. I am on my phone right now, but I can recreate it if necessary

It is ONLY on teamliquid btw. Thanks in advance.

Edit. What I mean with only on teamliquid is that I only have issues browsing teamliquid, any other website works fine

Same problem here. Started happening about 8 hours ago, since then TL.net has froze 3x (always on the main page) in Chrome.

The entire program is completely responsive except to commands to close either chrome entirely or commands to do anything on/with the broken TL.net tab. I have been generally just going about my business in the other tabs. However, the only way to fix the issue by terminating Chrome's task in the task manager.

I suspect a bad ad is at work or possibly a bad ad interaction. I use AdBlock for Chrome, but TL.net is whitelisted, so I always see ads on the front page. However, in all three cases where it has froze, the top (banner) ad has been blank (the rest of the page loads fine, but no elements are clickable).

I browse over 1000 websites daily (full-time student/work, both entirely online, so basically I live online), and this is the only site and instance I have ever encountered this specific error (page is structurally intact, all of the content is present, and it has basic functionality - i.e. scrolling, moving the tab, etc - but you can't interact with page elements).

I'm running with the developer console open now, so hopefully when it occurs again I will be able to catch the culprit in the act and report back.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
February 07 2014 18:51 GMT
#8717
On February 08 2014 03:11 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 12:55 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:27 Ropid wrote:
@TheRabidDeer:

In the lower pane of BlueScreenView's program window, see if it highlights some more file names beside those "monitor.sys" and "rdbss.sys". It might give you a hint about some driver (or its hardware) behaving badly.

The one that is in common with both is ntoskrnl.exe
ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+c0738 fffff800`02666000 fffff800`02c4b000 0x005e5000 0x521ea035 8/28/2013 7:13:25 PM Microsoft® Windows® Operating System NT Kernel & System 6.1.7601.18247 (win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532) Microsoft Corporation C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe

For the one on the 3rd there is a 3rd one NDProxy.sys

All those files mentioned seem to be Windows files. Perhaps something got corrupted after a crash in the past? Windows 7 and 8 both have a feature to check and fix corrupted Windows files. To access that, you open a command prompt window as Administrator and use this command:

sfc /scannow

If that does not find anything, it might be hardware or its drivers not working right. I don't know how to diagnose that best. Maybe you remember doing something that might be the cause? Did you play with BIOS settings or graphics driver settings for example?

Something you might want to look into is the "driver verifier" method that's built into Windows. You can find guides for that online. Using it is pretty involved. If there really are problems, you will experience a lot of BSODs. You might also not even be able to boot into Windows while the driver verifier stuff is enabled, so you can get somewhat trapped with a broken Windows. You really need to read a guide if you want to use the Windows driver verifier to diagnose your problems.

I ran the scan and it found nothing wrong. I haven't played with bios settings or graphics stuff in ages. I have been having hardware issues (2 HDD's died at the same time) and speedfan takes ages to start for some reason as of late (havent timed it but probably 30 seconds or more), which could be an indicator of a motherboard issue?

Will otherwise look into the driver verifying thing

Thanks for the help so far.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 19:04:47
February 07 2014 19:03 GMT
#8718
On February 08 2014 03:51 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 03:11 Ropid wrote:
On February 07 2014 12:55 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On February 07 2014 04:27 Ropid wrote:
@TheRabidDeer:

In the lower pane of BlueScreenView's program window, see if it highlights some more file names beside those "monitor.sys" and "rdbss.sys". It might give you a hint about some driver (or its hardware) behaving badly.

The one that is in common with both is ntoskrnl.exe
ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+c0738 fffff800`02666000 fffff800`02c4b000 0x005e5000 0x521ea035 8/28/2013 7:13:25 PM Microsoft® Windows® Operating System NT Kernel & System 6.1.7601.18247 (win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532) Microsoft Corporation C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe

For the one on the 3rd there is a 3rd one NDProxy.sys

All those files mentioned seem to be Windows files. Perhaps something got corrupted after a crash in the past? Windows 7 and 8 both have a feature to check and fix corrupted Windows files. To access that, you open a command prompt window as Administrator and use this command:

sfc /scannow

If that does not find anything, it might be hardware or its drivers not working right. I don't know how to diagnose that best. Maybe you remember doing something that might be the cause? Did you play with BIOS settings or graphics driver settings for example?

Something you might want to look into is the "driver verifier" method that's built into Windows. You can find guides for that online. Using it is pretty involved. If there really are problems, you will experience a lot of BSODs. You might also not even be able to boot into Windows while the driver verifier stuff is enabled, so you can get somewhat trapped with a broken Windows. You really need to read a guide if you want to use the Windows driver verifier to diagnose your problems.

I ran the scan and it found nothing wrong. I haven't played with bios settings or graphics stuff in ages. I have been having hardware issues (2 HDD's died at the same time) and speedfan takes ages to start for some reason as of late (havent timed it but probably 30 seconds or more), which could be an indicator of a motherboard issue?

Will otherwise look into the driver verifying thing

Thanks for the help so far.

+1 on the Driver Verifier method.

Windows basically throws out errors from drivers and other system-critical files if at all possible. A BSOD is what occurs when Windows can't handle what happened - if a driver does something weird and Windows does not understand how to recover from the error.

Driver Verifier is nice because it will cause a BSOD immediately even on a recoverable error. This is desirable because it is much more likely to catch the real culprit behind the BSOD - the one that began the chain of fatal errors rather than the thing that ended it.

Be warned somewhat though, like he suggested - just make 100% sure you know how to boot into Safe Mode with Networking so that you can remove the driver verifier parameters if anything goes wrong. For example, if you have an unsigned driver from an unknown source, running with driver verifier enabled can cause your computer to immediately BSOD when you boot into Windows normally. I had this happen to me with the driver for "Virtual Audio Cable", an old sound-duplication application/driver.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 19:06:58
February 07 2014 19:06 GMT
#8719
@TheRabidDeer:

I see the same delay for SpeedFan at Windows start-up. If I start SpeedFan while Windows is already running for a while, it starts a lot faster. I suspect while you are already able to do things on the desktop, some sort of Windows services that SpeedFan needs are still being launched in the background for a minute or two.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
February 08 2014 03:32 GMT
#8720
On February 08 2014 00:23 Dingodile wrote:
Does a SSD help GPU (or CPU?) temperature a lot? With HDD I had ~38°C at Sc2 menue and it increased to ~65°C at Sc2 Lategame. Right now with my SSD, maximum is ~42°C. (AMD X6 T1055 & GeForce GTX460 1GB).


I'd like to see a screenshot of your GPU temp maxing at 42 degrees in late game SC2.
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
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