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z0rz
United States350 Posts
http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2012/07/fractal-design-define-r4-review/define_r4-14b.jpg I had some small annoyances installing an NH-D14 (one of the bigger CPU heatsinks out there) on a micro-ATX mobo in a shitty case, but it really wasn't that bad. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On January 27 2014 14:06 blade55555 wrote: Well looks like a huge pain in the ass to install and I don't want to take my motherboard out of the case. The Define R4 has a cutout behind the CPU so you don't need to remove the motherboard to install the backplate. Most installations are much easier than Intel's retarded pushpin installation. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 27 2014 14:21 z0rz wrote: What made you think you need to remove your motherboard? I'm not sure if it's a standard (probably is), but any good case will have a window cut out to access the backside of the motherboard to install a backplate (hint: your case is really good). Just take off the back cover on your case and you'll see it. http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2012/07/fractal-design-define-r4-review/define_r4-14b.jpg I had some small annoyances installing an NH-D14 (one of the bigger CPU heatsinks out there) on a micro-ATX mobo in a shitty case, but it really wasn't that bad. You know I did forget my case had that. Well what do you guys recommend that wouldn't be too expensive and easiest to install? Thanks again :D. Guess I should put that isn't past 40$, would really prefer to spend 20-30 if possible. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Guess I should put that isn't past 40$, would really prefer to spend 20-30 if possible. If you care for $10-20 so much, you shouldn't be running z87  Likewise, if you care for temps so much, voltage is far more important than cooling. Many 4770k's run as much as 1.2 or even 1.25v at 3.7ghz auto, when i am capable of stabilizing it below 1v with a pretty damn average cpu (which cuts temps by like 25-40 degrees compared to those voltages) Also, 85 under load bf4? Not as hot as encoding - i'm curious how it's that bad. Would love to see x264 benchmark 5.0.1 against a temperature monitor and something for measuring vcore (hwinfo, cpu-z 1.64.0) as well as case airflow info etc | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
On January 27 2014 13:56 blade55555 wrote: Ok guys so I want to upgrade my cooling on my current motherboard as my CPU gets way to hot (85 degrees when playing BF4). I know this isn't uncommon for the stock cooling on this CPU and just want to get it replaced. Yes I made 100% sure fan is going and all the pins are in. Idles fine (35), but once I play bf4 it just sky rockets. So my process is i7 4770k (I got this for 115$, I don't really care for overclocking no reason to right now) Motherboard is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157372 Case is: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HD3EFA/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I just want a cooler that is easy to install (no back plate). Thanks in advance! I just want to be able to use my CPU without it hitting 85 under full load. A stock cooler should easily be enough to play BF4 without it skyrocketing to 85 degrees. You're not overclocking...so maybe there's a problem that an aftermarket cooler might not be able to solve. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On January 27 2014 13:43 Cyro wrote: ^ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261 way better psu even the 650m is the same price as tx750m Cases.. you have to be quite picky with small cases, even if everything fits, you only have 2x 80mm fan on that.. Basically a closed environment with less than a strong 120mm fan as your entire airflow You think 450W is enough for that build? | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
On January 27 2014 15:20 Doodsmack wrote: You think 450W is enough for that build? Yes it's more than enough... | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On January 27 2014 15:20 Doodsmack wrote: You think 450W is enough for that build? If you're drawing more than 450w in a closed case with less airflow than one decent 120mm fan, you have far bigger problems (as power pretty much directly translates to heat output) GPU power consumption is not that crazy high, i hit google - guru3d and got ~209w figure for gpu at a reasonable max load (which seemed somewhat accurate though i don't know 5000/6000 series very well) and you have nothing else pulling anywhere near enough power on top of that to challenge a good psu Really though, take care of case and which you buy, how you use etc if you're putting anything more than very low powered components in it. They're important. My full-sized atx case gets very warm with only a "meh" 120mm front intake and 170mm top, with only ~300w combined in it (770+haswell quad core) A lot of these "steam box" type cases seem very nice - but they're specifically designed for exactly that. Some of them have airflow in crucial places, or somewhere lined up for a blower-style GPU cooler to intake cold air from for example. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
 Edit: what are the best ways to promote a bit (casual. I have a daughter and am a working man with a normal job)? Edit #2: With a connection providing roughly a download of 9mbit and an upload rate of roughly 1000kb, what settings should I use for OBS? | ||
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
Promote yourself on social media (you can have Twitch auto-post to Twitter whenever you start streaming), post something on r/Starcraft (Reddit), post a thread on Team Liquid (and keep it updated), put a link to your stream wherever appropriate (forum signatures, your social media accounts, etc). Basic stuff. It's hard to hang on to your viewers, especially when you're new. It's easier to keep viewership if you do something unique/interesting, give commentary, interact with the chat, etc, and you'll get more repeat viewers if you stream at a regular schedule. People seem to really like webcams too, probably gives the viewer a more personal connection to the streamer. Pick the server closest to you and run an extended upload test (select custom size, try33MB if you can) here: http://testmy.net/upload Post your results and we'll give you a better idea of what settings to use. Also, posting your PC specs would help with settings recommendations. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On January 27 2014 16:05 Cyro wrote: If you're drawing more than 450w in a closed case with less airflow than one decent 120mm fan, you have far bigger problems (as power pretty much directly translates to heat output) GPU power consumption is not that crazy high, i hit google - guru3d and got ~209w figure for gpu at a reasonable max load (which seemed somewhat accurate though i don't know 5000/6000 series very well) and you have nothing else pulling anywhere near enough power on top of that to challenge a good psu Really though, take care of case and which you buy, how you use etc if you're putting anything more than very low powered components in it. They're important. My full-sized atx case gets very warm with only a "meh" 120mm front intake and 170mm top, with only ~300w combined in it (770+haswell quad core) A lot of these "steam box" type cases seem very nice - but they're specifically designed for exactly that. Some of them have airflow in crucial places, or somewhere lined up for a blower-style GPU cooler to intake cold air from for example. I found this case, which has the audio component-resembling look I want, and has 3 120mm fans with side vents that are supposed to work in cooperation with CPU cooler. I'm just not sure if it can fit a HDD when a large GPU is present. There is one picture that actually looks like it has 2 GPUs installed, but it looks like the HDD cage is removed and I just don't see where the HDD goes. http://jonsbo.com/en/products_1_6.html Also would have to order this thing from china somehow. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On January 28 2014 02:29 Doodsmack wrote: I found this case, which has the audio component-resembling look I want, and has 3 120mm fans with side vents that are supposed to work in cooperation with CPU cooler. I'm just not sure if it can fit a HDD when a large GPU is present. There is one picture that actually looks like it has 2 GPUs installed, but it looks like the HDD cage is removed and I just don't see where the HDD goes. http://jonsbo.com/en/products_1_6.html Also would have to order this thing from china somehow. Looks expensive | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
I found their European shop, hopefully shipping from Europe is cheaper than china. Looks like I'll be using some google translate this evening to try to find this thing in stock... http://www.cooltek.de/en/custom/index/sCustom/51 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163195 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163196 Silverstone does two bottom (near the front) 120mm intakes and a side 120mm intake. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On January 28 2014 03:49 Myrmidon wrote: I guess there's not a whole of ways to make a chassis like that, but the layout looks like some of Silverstone's Grandia series, like 07 and 08. Maybe they're (edit: meaning Jonsbo) the OEM, or maybe there just aren't that many options. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163195 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163196 Silverstone does two bottom (near the front) 120mm intakes and a side 120mm intake. $150-160 shipped yup expensive | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
Is there any way to figure out what is happening? | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On January 28 2014 03:11 Doodsmack wrote: I found their European shop, hopefully shipping from Europe is cheaper than china. Looks like I'll be using some google translate this evening to try to find this thing in stock... http://www.cooltek.de/en/custom/index/sCustom/51 I believe Newegg recently started carrying a few of their products (under the Rosewill brand - Rosewill Legacy) Might be worth waiting to see if they add the model you're after soon... + Show Spoiler + I live in Finland and was looking at some of the cooltek cases available here while also checking newegg while vacationing in the states. Pretty sure I didn't see the cases on newegg until Dec. | ||
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