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IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
November 18 2012 04:22 GMT
#1801
I've been using a razer salmosa for a long time now and I think the left click has finally worn out. I need a new mouse but don't know what to get. I want something that resembles the razer salmosa in size and shape. DPI is not important since I use 800. Any suggestions?
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
kill619
Profile Joined December 2011
United States212 Posts
November 19 2012 13:05 GMT
#1802
On November 18 2012 13:22 IMHope wrote:
I've been using a razer salmosa for a long time now and I think the left click has finally worn out. I need a new mouse but don't know what to get. I want something that resembles the razer salmosa in size and shape. DPI is not important since I use 800. Any suggestions?



If I'm not mistaken, the abyssus is suppose to be simlar in size and shape to salmosa. Small-ish, lightweight, ambidextrous, and pretty good sensor all for 30-40 USD is defiantly worth considering. Any thing you read regarding the jitter problems with it are referring to an older firmware, if you get one today you should end up with the newer one that works just fine(afaik). If it's an abyssus that comes with LoL runes it's defiantly a new firmware version of the mouse.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 06:09:25
November 23 2012 05:54 GMT
#1803
After years of waiting for a good mouse we finally have a new deathadder without slippery plastic sides, that has rubber grips this time
[image loading]
They only cover a small area for some reason (why?) but im still curious as to if this will make using the mouse actuly not as painful as before, because the sensor on the 3.5g is too good to pass up on 1800dpi setting.

I would really like to try one of these if the sensor is up to par (not "fixed"), but i cant seem to find any reviews saying anything other than "hurr durr 6400dpi is fast", does anybody have any practical performance information right now?

Something like this would be sweet:



Im really excited for this, but when i saw the small size of the rubber grips im dissapointed, and worried they will fuck something up with the sensor, as reviewers typically tend to be average guys who have no idea about anything at all related to mouse technology other than "i can grip it comfortably" and "it works well in COD" and the fine details of sensor performance gets very little coverage.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TwilightRain
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany351 Posts
November 23 2012 19:19 GMT
#1804
Just saw this on esreality: http://www.gmb.nl/egmb/default.aspx?op=products&op2=item&id=5456
Seems really similar to mice like Logitech G1,G100 G3. Does anybody know anything about this mouse?
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
November 23 2012 19:29 GMT
#1805
On November 19 2012 22:05 kill619 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 13:22 IMHope wrote:
I've been using a razer salmosa for a long time now and I think the left click has finally worn out. I need a new mouse but don't know what to get. I want something that resembles the razer salmosa in size and shape. DPI is not important since I use 800. Any suggestions?



If I'm not mistaken, the abyssus is suppose to be simlar in size and shape to salmosa. Small-ish, lightweight, ambidextrous, and pretty good sensor all for 30-40 USD is defiantly worth considering. Any thing you read regarding the jitter problems with it are referring to an older firmware, if you get one today you should end up with the newer one that works just fine(afaik). If it's an abyssus that comes with LoL runes it's defiantly a new firmware version of the mouse.

Seconded. In fact isn't the abyssus sensor/DA sensor the best ones in the market?
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
nad3r
Profile Joined March 2011
Iran8 Posts
November 24 2012 03:00 GMT
#1806
post on OCN about the new razer krait... looks pretty sick

http://www.overclock.net/t/1330151/new-razer-krait

[image loading]

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spscannon
Profile Joined November 2011
146 Posts
November 24 2012 05:30 GMT
#1807
Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my mouse. I think I use a palm? grip. And I game pretty heavily in both fps and dota2.
Are there any good mouses currently on sale for black friday/cyber monday for the range of 30-40 dollars that will last around 2 years? I was thinking about the g500, but I've been reading that it seems to have a shelf life of around a year. The abyssus doesn't seem to fit my grip style so not sure about that one either. Any recommendations?

Thanks for any help you guys can give me
spscannon
Profile Joined November 2011
146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 05:32:56
November 24 2012 05:30 GMT
#1808
accidental repost, sorry. Anyway to delete this?
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
November 24 2012 06:31 GMT
#1809
On November 24 2012 12:00 nad3r wrote:
post on OCN about the new razer krait... looks pretty sick

http://www.overclock.net/t/1330151/new-razer-krait

[image loading]

[image loading]




This one looks great, thanks for the info.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#1810
On November 24 2012 14:30 spscannon wrote:
Hi, I'm looking to upgrade my mouse. I think I use a palm? grip. And I game pretty heavily in both fps and dota2.
Are there any good mouses currently on sale for black friday/cyber monday for the range of 30-40 dollars that will last around 2 years? I was thinking about the g500, but I've been reading that it seems to have a shelf life of around a year. The abyssus doesn't seem to fit my grip style so not sure about that one either. Any recommendations?

Thanks for any help you guys can give me


I would strongly reccomend the Razer Deathadder (3.5g, or if you feel adventurous, 2013 version, but no guarantees on its sensor being as amazing as 3.5g)

Its good for pretty much any grip (particularly palm) and has best sensor on the market
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 09:50:36
November 26 2012 09:43 GMT
#1811
On November 24 2012 04:29 lisward wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 22:05 kill619 wrote:
On November 18 2012 13:22 IMHope wrote:
I've been using a razer salmosa for a long time now and I think the left click has finally worn out. I need a new mouse but don't know what to get. I want something that resembles the razer salmosa in size and shape. DPI is not important since I use 800. Any suggestions?



If I'm not mistaken, the abyssus is suppose to be simlar in size and shape to salmosa. Small-ish, lightweight, ambidextrous, and pretty good sensor all for 30-40 USD is defiantly worth considering. Any thing you read regarding the jitter problems with it are referring to an older firmware, if you get one today you should end up with the newer one that works just fine(afaik). If it's an abyssus that comes with LoL runes it's defiantly a new firmware version of the mouse.

Seconded. In fact isn't the abyssus sensor/DA sensor the best ones in the market?

This looks like a really great mouse but I don't think you can use it at 800 dpi. Does anyone know if its possible to use at 800 or close to it?
450 is too slow and 1800 is too fast.
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 26 2012 18:19 GMT
#1812
With the deathadder 3.5g you can either set 900dpi, or because the sensor performs much better at 1800, you can set it to the 1800 step and use the on-the-fly sensitivity to set it to anything you want between 180-1800 in steps of 90
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
zoglug
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United Kingdom56 Posts
November 28 2012 11:41 GMT
#1813
Hi everyone,

I have had some great advice here in the past regarding monitors & keyboards, so thought i would try with a mouse too. I currently have a Razer Naga which i purchased back in 09 or 10, but it is on its last legs. It has done quite a bit of travelling and probably hasnt been treated in the way an expensive mouse should be. So i am in the market for something new. I have tried to give as much info as possible.

- I use a palm/claw type grip, in that i rest my palm on the mouse, but my middle and index finger are arched up for the buttons.
- I like mice which are ergonomic, as i use an ambidextrous one at work, and it just doesnt feel comfortable in my hand.
- It'll be used for a lot of gaming, primarily SC2, but also some DOTA 2, BF3, L4D2 etc, the typical games most gamers like to play. I have managed to drag myself away from MMO's so i dont need a ton of buttons on the mouse, however, 2 thumb buttons would be nice for internet browsing.
- I tend to use my Naga at 1,800 dpi, so i am sure most mice will cover this.
- Having just bought my first mechanical keyboard (impulse buy, not really needed), my budget has been slashed somewhat. If i get any change out of £50 id be very grateful indeed!
- Im not a brand snob! All brands of mouse will be considered.
- Finally, must be wired. I can not be bothered with the expense or hassle of changing batteries all the time.

Id be very grateful for any advice you knowledable chaps can share!

Cheers

Zog
You cant see where you are going......if you constantly look at where you have been
Clontarf
Profile Joined June 2010
8 Posts
November 28 2012 13:28 GMT
#1814
I've been using the same Logitech G9 mouse for the past 4-5 years and if it breaks I'll replace it with a new one. It's got the two thumb buttons, adjustable dpi so you can match the 1800, wired and I've seen them on sale for 50ish USD (I paid 100 when I got it and would have no issue paying that again). It comes with two grips and I think the larger one could work for you.
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
November 28 2012 13:32 GMT
#1815
On November 28 2012 20:41 zoglug wrote:
Hi everyone,

I have had some great advice here in the past regarding monitors & keyboards, so thought i would try with a mouse too. I currently have a Razer Naga which i purchased back in 09 or 10, but it is on its last legs. It has done quite a bit of travelling and probably hasnt been treated in the way an expensive mouse should be. So i am in the market for something new. I have tried to give as much info as possible.

- I use a palm/claw type grip, in that i rest my palm on the mouse, but my middle and index finger are arched up for the buttons.
- I like mice which are ergonomic, as i use an ambidextrous one at work, and it just doesnt feel comfortable in my hand.
- It'll be used for a lot of gaming, primarily SC2, but also some DOTA 2, BF3, L4D2 etc, the typical games most gamers like to play. I have managed to drag myself away from MMO's so i dont need a ton of buttons on the mouse, however, 2 thumb buttons would be nice for internet browsing.
- I tend to use my Naga at 1,800 dpi, so i am sure most mice will cover this.
- Having just bought my first mechanical keyboard (impulse buy, not really needed), my budget has been slashed somewhat. If i get any change out of £50 id be very grateful indeed!
- Im not a brand snob! All brands of mouse will be considered.
- Finally, must be wired. I can not be bothered with the expense or hassle of changing batteries all the time.

Id be very grateful for any advice you knowledable chaps can share!

Cheers

Zog



Razer Deathadder 3.5G
Logitech G400 or G500
Steelseries Ikari optical

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Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
November 28 2012 15:11 GMT
#1816
I bought a new Razer Naga Hex and I installed the Synapse software, however after it does some updates and tells me to restart the computer, it shows up in the taskbar but trying to open it does nothing. Simply, nothing happens, I can't change anything with my mouse. Does anyone know how to fix this?
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
November 28 2012 17:52 GMT
#1817
Hi there ~

I was using a Steelseries Sensei, until I've had some weird cursor problem (couldn't aim properly anymore, felt like I can't do straight lines anymore always diagonal.) Just bought a new sensei, still has the same problem so I'm gonna return it for refund.

Now I have to figure what to use, I thought maybe the Abyssus since it has a similar shape (I use claw-grip really hardcore).
I never got the chance to hold one but it felt right, and I don't wanna go back to deathadder I find it hard to click quickly on it for some reason. I use the SS 9HD mousepad (hard mat)

Anyone has any thoughts on this it would be very appreciated as I need to practice asap, and I can't for now.

Thank you ~
Intensity
Profile Joined February 2011
53 Posts
November 28 2012 23:37 GMT
#1818
Switched from Mamba 2012 to Deathadder 2013 : Few questions -

My previous setup was the razer mamba 2012 paired with the razer megasoma mouse mat. I always felt like I never had enough control with that setup. I could move around quickly but not accurately. I just got the new 2013 deathadder in the mail along with a goliathus speed edition. The research I did showed that the control edition is too slow for sc2. I still feel like I don't have that accuracy I want. I just feel like the cursor almost slips a bit. At the beginning of a game I like to bind all of the base locations to the F keys. When I click a base on the minimap I feel like I'm having trouble getting over the center perfectly. I feel like it "slips" a bit. Do you all have "enable mouse sensitivity" enabled in game? I have 6/11 with unchecked pointer precision in windows with 1600 dpi / 0 acceleration in razer settings. Should the ingame sensitivity even be checked? I read that people keep it at 51-54% to maintain 1:1. I can't tell if checking it helps or hurts. The razer software has surface calibration. It has a preset option for the goliathus. If I'm not lifting the mouse does that even matter? Any other advice would be great.

Also, what should polling rate be? I got the goliathus for the deathadder because I read that soft pads are better for optical and hard are better for laser. Is that true? Theoretically, which combination should be better for starcraft 2 (assuming that both mice fit comfortably in my hand). The mamba 2012 + megasoma or the deathadder 2013 with goliathus? I wrote the above snippet earlier today and posted it on reddit (to no avail) and since then I've been playing more and getting used to it. I feel like, thus far, the deathadder is more accurate than the mamba. It could just be the new mouse pad, though. I haven't tried the mamba with the goliathus yet. All and all, the deathadder and the mamba are great mice. I just feel like I have trouble getting the mouse to click in the right spot. As aforementioned, it just "slips" sometimes. When trying to pat a probe to all the bases I should be able to set the rally points really quickly. If, however, I do it quickly I'll end up sending the probe to the back of the base where there isn't even map (I shift click the bases on the minimap). I have the razer bungee to eliminate cord drag, if that helps. Again, any advice would be great.
zoglug
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United Kingdom56 Posts
November 29 2012 09:37 GMT
#1819
On November 28 2012 22:32 ArtyK wrote:

Razer Deathadder 3.5G
Logitech G400 or G500
Steelseries Ikari optical

GL


Thanks for the advice! Ive managed to find the Steelseries Ikari Optical for £15, so i have decided to get that. Allows me to pick up a new mouse mat too, which i think im going to go for the Steelseries QCK Fnatic.
You cant see where you are going......if you constantly look at where you have been
Deleted User 166296
Profile Joined April 2011
35 Posts
November 30 2012 03:51 GMT
#1820
Can't decide between an Abyssus and a MiCo. Any suggestions?
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