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gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 22:45:51
August 27 2015 22:45 GMT
#4421
On August 25 2015 13:20 Cyro wrote:
303 clicks are a medium stiffness IMO, but they have a very consistent force and travel distance (which is quite low)


Have you used a g9x before and, in that case, how stiff is it in comparison?
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FHC Nex
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria44 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-31 09:49:38
August 28 2015 09:42 GMT
#4422
1. Grip style
Mostly Fingertip or a mix between Fingertip/Claw, im not entirely sure. I have relatively long fingers and using small mice (like from Razer) make for a weird combination.

2. Sensitivity
1700-1900

3. Budget
Not fixed but lets start with *up to 70*

4. Additional buttons
Not necessary, I come from a Naga and I often used to click a button on the side by mistake. A couple more of them is fine but not more than 8-9 (total for the whole mouse)

5. Games
SC2, HOTS, EU4/CK2/HoI (Paradox grand strategy games), the occasional shooter, Diablo 2 and 3

7. Other relevant information
Absolutely no Razer hardware. Mostly because of their bad software (I have a Blackwidow and Synapse changes my Windows!?!?!?!? layout from US english to UK english).
Massive bonus points for on-board memory. It shouldnt store whole profiles, just the settings for the polling rate and CPI. I dont like depending on software and if I can avoid it I would be very happy.

I also want something with better switches than my current naga (Omron, rated for 10 Mil clicks). If its Omron (probably), at the very least I want 20M. Everything less is pure bs. My (classic) Naga switch under the left button got worn off just 2 years after purchasing it ( normal to moderate use at most). It makes micro doubleclicks. Im very disappointed by Razor's poor choice (Logitech and co have the same problem on some of their products).

Size: The Naga was fine, I got used to it. Slightly larger would be ideal. Im not sure if I want an ergonomic or ambidex. mouse.
"It seems that whenever a Terran wins its because "Terran OP" not because the player played well. "Terran OP" has been around since beta and its became an excuse for losses"
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 28 2015 13:22 GMT
#4423
On August 28 2015 07:45 gillon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 13:20 Cyro wrote:
303 clicks are a medium stiffness IMO, but they have a very consistent force and travel distance (which is quite low)


Have you used a g9x before and, in that case, how stiff is it in comparison?

I used the g9 (not g9x but I think stiffness between those two should be the same) and g303 is maybe a little less stiff, about the same. The buttons definitely feel better.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
August 28 2015 15:24 GMT
#4424
On August 28 2015 07:45 gillon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 13:20 Cyro wrote:
303 clicks are a medium stiffness IMO, but they have a very consistent force and travel distance (which is quite low)


Have you used a g9x before and, in that case, how stiff is it in comparison?


I have not used g9x because of inconsistent sensor
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20009 Posts
September 01 2015 15:51 GMT
#4425
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OHJY7C2/ref=ox_sc_imb_mini_detail?tag=slickdeals09-20&ascsubtag=d74115810fb94eecb6a6487b8362ae86&ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sdsrc=staff

G302 for 30$ today.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 02 2015 13:52 GMT
#4426
On August 27 2015 01:04 Zorgon wrote:
They are cool with replacing hardware, but man are they slow to reply to RMA tickets.




my german logitech guy gave me some referral number within 1 phone call that acknowleged a defect, which i could send to amazon and amazon instantly send me a new mouse for free and then after i received it, i could send the defective one back.

Best support ever.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-03 14:54:47
September 03 2015 14:50 GMT
#4427
That sounds good but at the moment, the new mouse is probably mildly defective too

G302 for 30$ today.


g303 for $40 at moment (same price as 302)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Coypirus
Profile Joined February 2015
119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-03 18:39:38
September 03 2015 18:37 GMT
#4428
1. What's your grip style?
Palm/Claw
2. What's your sensitivity?
Medium
3. What's your maximum budget?
25$
4. Do you want additional buttons?
Doesn't Matter
5. What games do you play?
Starcraft II
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
????
7. Other relevant information:
I've been looking at the sentei aphelion because I wanted a mouse that was black and didn't stand out too much.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
September 04 2015 13:10 GMT
#4429
Razer Re-released the diamondhead which was huge among mouse geeks many years ago.

I haven't looked much into it, but it appears to have a absurd laser sensor which is more than a bit dissapointing
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
September 04 2015 13:35 GMT
#4430
your mistake was hoping that razer would care about the performance of their hardware before gamer marketing BS
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20009 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 16:48:39
September 04 2015 16:47 GMT
#4431
On September 04 2015 22:35 Cyro wrote:
your mistake was hoping that razer would care about the performance of their hardware before gamer marketing BS


My salmosa I got for 20$ fucking ages ago is still going strong and a great mouse. Naturally they discontinued it.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
September 04 2015 21:39 GMT
#4432
On September 04 2015 22:35 Cyro wrote:
your mistake was hoping that razer would care about the performance of their hardware before gamer marketing BS


BUT IT HAS 16 000 DPI!!! It's over 9000 and stuff. Isn't the sensor decent though? I thought it would be the same than in their most recent mouse which name I forgot, and was supposed to have no accel.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-04 23:12:36
September 04 2015 23:08 GMT
#4433
[image loading]

if it didn't come from razer's official site it would look like somebody trying to make a joke.

Sensor might be ok. AFAIK there are still not laser sensors with as low speed-related tracking variance as the better optical ones, but i have no experience/knowledge with this one in particular i think

edit: Looks like PTE sensor.. so pick your poison i guess. Or just get a 3310/3366 mouse
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
September 05 2015 10:12 GMT
#4434
I'd never buy a razer mouse again, I was just asking out of curiosity if someone asks me someday. Their software is just too crappy now, I'll stick to zowie or logitech.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States871 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 02:30:49
September 08 2015 02:27 GMT
#4435
I've been using a Logitech G9x for a little over 5 years now and it's been without a doubt the best mouse I've ever owned. Unfortunately, the scroll wheel just died and it seems as though I can't find a new one for anything less than $300 (ironically, I bought it to replace my old Logitech G5 because of a scroll wheel issue too). I really wish I knew why Logitech discontinued it since it seems like it's been hugely popular and positively received by almost everyone.

Looking at Logitech's website, it seems like the G502 is the spiritual successor to the G9x (specifically with the adjustable weights). However, in the last 10 pages or so of this thread, everyone's been talking about the G303 and the G502 has gotten almost no mention. Is there anyone here that's tried them both and could offer some insights between the two?
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
WellCrap
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden122 Posts
September 08 2015 17:20 GMT
#4436
On September 08 2015 11:27 Kitai wrote:
I've been using a Logitech G9x for a little over 5 years now and it's been without a doubt the best mouse I've ever owned. Unfortunately, the scroll wheel just died and it seems as though I can't find a new one for anything less than $300 (ironically, I bought it to replace my old Logitech G5 because of a scroll wheel issue too). I really wish I knew why Logitech discontinued it since it seems like it's been hugely popular and positively received by almost everyone.

Looking at Logitech's website, it seems like the G502 is the spiritual successor to the G9x (specifically with the adjustable weights). However, in the last 10 pages or so of this thread, everyone's been talking about the G303 and the G502 has gotten almost no mention. Is there anyone here that's tried them both and could offer some insights between the two?

Biggest difference is size and weight. The 302/303 is more simmilar in that regard. Personally it seems like the 502 is too big and heavy to be a proper replacement.

If you're willing to open up the mouse there's someone who sells spare scrollwheels on ebay that fit. Ordered one myself when it seemed like mine was about to breakdown.
G9x-MiCo
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 00:23:25
September 09 2015 00:21 GMT
#4437
I really wish I knew why Logitech discontinued it since it seems like it's been hugely popular and positively received by almost everyone


They released new mice of similar sizes with better sensors (in ways that actually matter)

Looking at Logitech's website, it seems like the G502 is the spiritual successor to the G9x (specifically with the adjustable weights). However, in the last 10 pages or so of this thread, everyone's been talking about the G303 and the G502 has gotten almost no mention. Is there anyone here that's tried them both and could offer some insights between the two?


I've got a g402 (pretty much same shell as 502) and a 303.

The 402/502 forces palm grip and doesn't really let you do much else. The 303 on the other hand is pretty much the opposite as the shape isn't easily palmable, yet it's ideal for claw grips and workable for fingertip.

I would consider g9x a fingertip/claw mouse (not palm) though i never used one
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States871 Posts
September 09 2015 04:01 GMT
#4438
Thanks for the response. I hadn't realized how large the G502 is. Definitely seems the 303 is more in-line with the g9x in that regard (not to mention the simpler button set up)
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 09 2015 07:28 GMT
#4439
Is anyone else here still a fan of the IME 3.0? I bought one from ebay brand new for ~$35 here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Optical-IntelliMouse-Explorer-3-0-9000FPS-25G-54IPS-Optical-Mouse-/281692150940?hash=item4196291c9c

Been using it for several months and its still great. It only has 400 dpi but that's all you need for CSGO. It's cheaper than pretty much all the other gaming mice these days and doesn't have any of the useless buttons that just get in the way or make the mouse look ugly (I'm looking at you, Logitech). It also has a nice clean design instead of this gamer LED nonsense that makes you (or at least me) embarrassed to use the mouse in public. Frankly, the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the mice companies are completely out of touch with what gamers (or at least what I) want. If I'm paying $40+ for a fucking mouse, I don't want 30 buttons or 4000 dpi. I just want a rock-solid mouse with the build quality to last for many years.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
September 09 2015 11:21 GMT
#4440
The new edition is actually 450 dpi. I still have mine and I tried to play with it, but the 125hz kinda sucks and makes continuous movements very jittery for me (I.E. while peeking corners). It's good enough to play with, but I'd rather get a rival for a few more dollars if I wanted a big palm mouse again, if only for the polling rate. But yeah, manufacturers going back to simpler designs and focusing on having a high performance product rather than a fancy 50k dpi rgb lit mouse would be cool.
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