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wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 23:49:16
January 14 2014 23:46 GMT
#2961
On January 15 2014 07:51 NNLBboy wrote:
Hey guys like many posters I am thinking of purchasing a new mouse, due.. to my old mouse having a crack. My old mouse is a Sensei.

NEW mouse = WIRED*
Claw/Palm

Price is whatever, I have already been researching certain mouses around the fourm, such as Kova and while I do like the appeal of RAT, some say its not the most comfortable piece of equipment out there. I am open to any kind of suggestions, please and thank you!


Logitech G100S or Zowie MiCO. They're both simple and relatively cheap like the Sensei. Both are wired of course. You might have a tough time palming the MiCO though as it's almost exclusively a claw grip mice unless you have tiny hands.

ocn

can't remember what was said exactly but it seemed legit, and there was talk before of the limited carbon fiber edition costing a premium


I had really hoped the carbon fiber one was going to be maxed at $80. I mean, other than the coating, it doesn't have any special features. The adjustable palm rest is nice but unless the mouse is shared between 5 guys, I can't see anyone constantly taking a screwdriver to it...

The weight system and the extra buttons are nice but they're nothing new.
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
NNLBboy
Profile Joined August 2013
United States67 Posts
January 15 2014 01:56 GMT
#2962
[QUOTE]On January 15 2014 08:46 wptlzkwjd wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 15 2014 07:51 NNLBboy wrote:
Hey guys like many posters I am thinking of purchasing a new mouse, due.. to my old mouse having a crack. My old mouse is a Sensei.

NEW mouse = WIRED*
Claw/Palm

Price is whatever, I have already been researching certain mouses around the fourm, such as Kova and while I do like the appeal of RAT, some say its not the most comfortable piece of equipment out there. I am open to any kind of suggestions, please and thank you![/QUOTE]

Logitech G100S or Zowie MiCO. They're both simple and relatively cheap like the Sensei. Both are wired of course. You might have a tough time palming the MiCO though as it's almost exclusively a claw grip mice unless you have tiny hands.


Hmm I like the Logitech but not the Zowie perhaps its how it looks LOL. I did some more research and saw the Razor Taipain which looks nice :D, but I am still once again waiting and open to more suggestions, thank you.
EGJD - NEVER DIE
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 15 2014 02:47 GMT
#2963
The Razer Taipan is nice but it's not worth the $70-80. For a quarter of that price you can get a G100S.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 16 2014 07:30 GMT
#2964
after fighting the whole week with my sensei, i decided i just get a G100S.


The shape of the sensei just doesnt seem to fit me. Sometimes i find a good spot to hold it, but after 1 game the sides are so slippery, that my fingers slip into a differnt position.
And the side buttons are always in my way -.-
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 15:46:46
January 16 2014 15:46 GMT
#2965
Hmm... this thread seems to center around quite few brands... I just found these two from gigabytd and tesoro, and both have gotten great reviews and seem like very good buys... any experiences, and what are the best alternatives around €50?
http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-shrike-h2l-laser-gaming-mouse.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146028
Buff the siegetank
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3338 Posts
January 17 2014 05:13 GMT
#2966
I'm a complete noob looking for his first mouse. I've just used a crappy logitech mouse that came with a membrane keyboard (I think the whole set was worth $20) with just the wheel and two primary buttons (played too much BW and I'm perfectly happy with my mouse right now).

So here are a few questions:
1) I play a lot of DotA 2 right now. Would it be worth it to upgrade my mouse?
2) Are the secondary side buttons worth it? I have a good item layout already that I use, but do people who also play dota find that the side buttons help?
3) I see on Razer sites (my roommate has an older version of the deathadder which feels really nice) that they require a program to be installed? Blegh do I have to do this?

1. What's your grip style?
fingertip
2. What's your sensitivity?
medium
3. What's your maximum budget?
I'd like to keep it around $50 but lower the better (like I said, I'm used to using the worst mice)
5. What games do you play?
Dota 2 and BW
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
I guess not?
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wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 17 2014 06:17 GMT
#2967
On January 17 2014 14:13 Bisu-Fan wrote:
I'm a complete noob looking for his first mouse. I've just used a crappy logitech mouse that came with a membrane keyboard (I think the whole set was worth $20) with just the wheel and two primary buttons (played too much BW and I'm perfectly happy with my mouse right now).

So here are a few questions:
1) I play a lot of DotA 2 right now. Would it be worth it to upgrade my mouse?
2) Are the secondary side buttons worth it? I have a good item layout already that I use, but do people who also play dota find that the side buttons help?
3) I see on Razer sites (my roommate has an older version of the deathadder which feels really nice) that they require a program to be installed? Blegh do I have to do this?

1. What's your grip style?
fingertip
2. What's your sensitivity?
medium
3. What's your maximum budget?
I'd like to keep it around $50 but lower the better (like I said, I'm used to using the worst mice)
5. What games do you play?
Dota 2 and BW
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
I guess not?



1) No, what you're using now is pretty much what most pros use - generic 3 button mice.
2) No, you have a left hand for a reason.
3) Some mice are plug-and-play which don't require you to install anything. Some mice like Razer or Logitech or Cyborg need software to adjust their mouse settings or change their programmable buttons but can still work if you don't want to install anything. It's completely pointless to buy those kind of mice if you don't want to install their software though IMO.

I recommend the Zowie MiCO if you want to change mice since it's a 3 button mouse but honestly, it's a waste of money because you already have a perfectly good one currently. There's also the Logitech G100S or Logitech G1 both of which are similar to what you have.

If you want to give a numpad mouse a try, I'd suggest the Razer Naga 2013 or Logitech G600. The Logitech G602 might be good too since it has 6 buttons on the side and while it's wireless-only it has a decent polling rate of 500Hz meaning it's just as responsive as a wired mouse.
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 16:30:38
January 17 2014 15:23 GMT
#2968
my g100s is here!

it tracks perfectly on my QCK pad and the shape is really good for me.
Now ill have to test if it gets slippery during a game.




its not slippery despite everything being plastic.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
January 19 2014 17:08 GMT
#2969
Alright!
I've decided I might want to get a new mouse with my new CPU that I'll be getting, and I found a good deal on eBay. However, I'm a noob at eBay so I don't know what to trust exactly. Therefore I ask people more experienced to check the page real quick and tell me if it's a ripoff/scam. Because 1$ shipping and 25$ for the actual product, is a bit suspicious. eBay razer deathadder
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
January 19 2014 19:05 GMT
#2970

Estimated between Thu. Feb. 6 and Thu. Feb. 20
Please note the delivery estimate is greater than 12 business days.
Please allow additional time if international delivery is subject to customs processing.


Ouchies

and price.. i dunno, who would actually sell a brand new in packaging DA for $25? Why?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
January 19 2014 19:23 GMT
#2971
Yeah, it looks kind of shady. 58 of them have been sold however and the seller seems to have good rating. Should I try and go for it? The waiting time is no problem because I've got a functioning Sensei at the moment, but the fact that it ships directly from Hong Kong kind of worries me that it's a rip off.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
FredYuanme
Profile Joined March 2011
United States30 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 06:54:03
January 21 2014 06:53 GMT
#2972
1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip/Claw

2. What's your sensitivity?
1100 - 1800

3. What's your maximum budget?
$100

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Don't need them, but having extra buttons doesn't bother me.

5. What games do you play?
LoL, SC2

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Rather not have it

7. Other relevant information:
I prefer to have my fingertips near the edge of the mouse buttons and close to the mousing surface. I'm currently using a Razer Deathadder, but the mouse shape is the only problem. The front of the mouse is raised to high causing my fingers to be in a resting on a flat level, but I'd rather rather have the front of the mouse have less height so that my fingers are positioned on a more downward slope.

The Zowie FK, which I've also tried, had a much more comfortable shape. The one problem was that the mouse buttons and in particular the right mouse button were to "hard" to click. I prefer the soft, lowforce clicks of the Razer Deathadder and Abyssus.

So I'm looking for something with the size/length of the Deathadder and Zowie FK, with easier to click mouse buttons. Right now I'm thinking about the Steelseries Kana or Sensai Raw.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 21 2014 09:21 GMT
#2973
On January 21 2014 15:53 FredYuanme wrote:
1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip/Claw

2. What's your sensitivity?
1100 - 1800

3. What's your maximum budget?
$100

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Don't need them, but having extra buttons doesn't bother me.

5. What games do you play?
LoL, SC2

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Rather not have it

7. Other relevant information:
I prefer to have my fingertips near the edge of the mouse buttons and close to the mousing surface. I'm currently using a Razer Deathadder, but the mouse shape is the only problem. The front of the mouse is raised to high causing my fingers to be in a resting on a flat level, but I'd rather rather have the front of the mouse have less height so that my fingers are positioned on a more downward slope.

The Zowie FK, which I've also tried, had a much more comfortable shape. The one problem was that the mouse buttons and in particular the right mouse button were to "hard" to click. I prefer the soft, lowforce clicks of the Razer Deathadder and Abyssus.

So I'm looking for something with the size/length of the Deathadder and Zowie FK, with easier to click mouse buttons. Right now I'm thinking about the Steelseries Kana or Sensai Raw.




the sensei is quite big, if you grab it in the front with your fingers, the rear will be pushed into your palm. If your grab it more in the back, the side buttons are in the way -.-
Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 08:39:18
January 21 2014 13:53 GMT
#2974
On January 21 2014 15:53 FredYuanme wrote:
1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip/Claw

2. What's your sensitivity?
1100 - 1800

3. What's your maximum budget?
$100

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Don't need them, but having extra buttons doesn't bother me.

5. What games do you play?
LoL, SC2

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Rather not have it

7. Other relevant information:
I prefer to have my fingertips near the edge of the mouse buttons and close to the mousing surface. I'm currently using a Razer Deathadder, but the mouse shape is the only problem. The front of the mouse is raised to high causing my fingers to be in a resting on a flat level, but I'd rather rather have the front of the mouse have less height so that my fingers are positioned on a more downward slope.

The Zowie FK, which I've also tried, had a much more comfortable shape. The one problem was that the mouse buttons and in particular the right mouse button were to "hard" to click. I prefer the soft, lowforce clicks of the Razer Deathadder and Abyssus.

So I'm looking for something with the size/length of the Deathadder and Zowie FK, with easier to click mouse buttons. Right now I'm thinking about the Steelseries Kana or Sensai Raw.


Can't you just swap the Huanos out with Omron switches in the ZK? That would fix the stiffness issue.
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
January 22 2014 03:40 GMT
#2975
On January 21 2014 18:21 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 15:53 FredYuanme wrote:
1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip/Claw

2. What's your sensitivity?
1100 - 1800

3. What's your maximum budget?
$100

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Don't need them, but having extra buttons doesn't bother me.

5. What games do you play?
LoL, SC2

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Rather not have it

7. Other relevant information:
I prefer to have my fingertips near the edge of the mouse buttons and close to the mousing surface. I'm currently using a Razer Deathadder, but the mouse shape is the only problem. The front of the mouse is raised to high causing my fingers to be in a resting on a flat level, but I'd rather rather have the front of the mouse have less height so that my fingers are positioned on a more downward slope.

The Zowie FK, which I've also tried, had a much more comfortable shape. The one problem was that the mouse buttons and in particular the right mouse button were to "hard" to click. I prefer the soft, lowforce clicks of the Razer Deathadder and Abyssus.

So I'm looking for something with the size/length of the Deathadder and Zowie FK, with easier to click mouse buttons. Right now I'm thinking about the Steelseries Kana or Sensai Raw.




the sensei is quite big, if you grab it in the front with your fingers, the rear will be pushed into your palm. If your grab it more in the back, the side buttons are in the way -.-


Just wondering, how big are your hands? I've used a Sensei before and had no problems gripping it fingertip. Or I might just not be holding mice too far into the front tip.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 22 2014 20:53 GMT
#2976
On January 22 2014 12:40 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 18:21 LaNague wrote:
On January 21 2014 15:53 FredYuanme wrote:
1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip/Claw

2. What's your sensitivity?
1100 - 1800

3. What's your maximum budget?
$100

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Don't need them, but having extra buttons doesn't bother me.

5. What games do you play?
LoL, SC2

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Rather not have it

7. Other relevant information:
I prefer to have my fingertips near the edge of the mouse buttons and close to the mousing surface. I'm currently using a Razer Deathadder, but the mouse shape is the only problem. The front of the mouse is raised to high causing my fingers to be in a resting on a flat level, but I'd rather rather have the front of the mouse have less height so that my fingers are positioned on a more downward slope.

The Zowie FK, which I've also tried, had a much more comfortable shape. The one problem was that the mouse buttons and in particular the right mouse button were to "hard" to click. I prefer the soft, lowforce clicks of the Razer Deathadder and Abyssus.

So I'm looking for something with the size/length of the Deathadder and Zowie FK, with easier to click mouse buttons. Right now I'm thinking about the Steelseries Kana or Sensai Raw.




the sensei is quite big, if you grab it in the front with your fingers, the rear will be pushed into your palm. If your grab it more in the back, the side buttons are in the way -.-


Just wondering, how big are your hands? I've used a Sensei before and had no problems gripping it fingertip. Or I might just not be holding mice too far into the front tip.




when i swim i use the large sized paddles, so my hands arent small.
0excalibur
Profile Joined December 2013
Taiwan11 Posts
January 24 2014 20:51 GMT
#2977
Hello,

I was wondering why pros still use the g9x? I used to use it but not anymore. How is this different from other mouses? Also doesn't logetech have mouses similar to the g9x? How come they have not upgraded to it?

Thanks
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 20:58:36
January 24 2014 20:58 GMT
#2978
They choose it over more precise sensors, recent models etc because they like the shell or are used to it / dont care
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 24 2014 23:04 GMT
#2979
On January 25 2014 05:51 0excalibur wrote:
Hello,

I was wondering why pros still use the g9x? I used to use it but not anymore. How is this different from other mouses? Also doesn't logetech have mouses similar to the g9x? How come they have not upgraded to it?

Thanks

I'm assuming we're talking about the Korean pros:
They use anything they can get for free (what the team provides) or the cheapest option possible. It's not entirely based on the best sensor because the whole StarTale team uses Zowie MiCOs which have pretty flawed sensors (but makes up for its size and switches).
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 23:58:57
January 24 2014 23:44 GMT
#2980
On January 25 2014 05:51 0excalibur wrote:
Hello,

I was wondering why pros still use the g9x? I used to use it but not anymore. How is this different from other mouses? Also doesn't logetech have mouses similar to the g9x? How come they have not upgraded to it?

Thanks

I imagine they used it because it's claw grip and small. You might check out the CM storm spawn if your a fan of the g9x it's better in every way, still being made, and dirt cheap. I have both mice and they are the same size for the most part but the spawn is shaped better, has a better sensor, has much better feel and is the most comfortable claw grip you can get. I'm not using it now but that's because I wanted a larger mouse so I switched to the Zowie FK. The spawn is defiantly for small hands.
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
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