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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 17 2013 22:25 GMT
#2041
On February 18 2013 06:48 iiAreJordan wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a razer abyssus but I have some questions.
Is there any way to customize the DPI?
If not, how could I make it closest to 900 DPI?
And will changing the sensitivity inside the razer driver(not the windows pointer sensitivity) affect the 1:1 ratio.
Thanks!


From my experience with the mouse. I did not like the Lift off distance. It was too high. I had to concentrate lifting it high. Make sure you try it before you buy.
WonDeRSC
Profile Joined June 2011
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 22:36:51
February 17 2013 22:36 GMT
#2042
On February 18 2013 07:25 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:48 iiAreJordan wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a razer abyssus but I have some questions.
Is there any way to customize the DPI?
If not, how could I make it closest to 900 DPI?
And will changing the sensitivity inside the razer driver(not the windows pointer sensitivity) affect the 1:1 ratio.
Thanks!


From my experience with the mouse. I did not like the Lift off distance. It was too high. I had to concentrate lifting it high. Make sure you try it before you buy.


What do you mean by lift off distance? I rarely lift the mouse anyway, unless I have to readjust it.
Do you know anything about whether changing the sensitivity inside the razer driver and not the windows sensitivity will affect the mouse precision?
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 18 2013 00:01 GMT
#2043
On February 18 2013 07:36 iiAreJordan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 07:25 llIH wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:48 iiAreJordan wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a razer abyssus but I have some questions.
Is there any way to customize the DPI?
If not, how could I make it closest to 900 DPI?
And will changing the sensitivity inside the razer driver(not the windows pointer sensitivity) affect the 1:1 ratio.
Thanks!


From my experience with the mouse. I did not like the Lift off distance. It was too high. I had to concentrate lifting it high. Make sure you try it before you buy.


What do you mean by lift off distance? I rarely lift the mouse anyway, unless I have to readjust it.
Do you know anything about whether changing the sensitivity inside the razer driver and not the windows sensitivity will affect the mouse precision?


Lift off distance: The amount of distance you need to lift your mouse from the mouse pad in order for it not to track while you move it in the air.
kuruptt
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada168 Posts
February 19 2013 12:47 GMT
#2044
I've asked this question before but no one answered =(

I am looking for a new mouse for the first time in my life. I have used the WMO since I got a computer. I am very heavily into competitive gaming mostly playing sc2/dota 2/ and some CS:GO. I know the WMO is considered 1 of the best mouse before but I think it's time for me to get into new technology, and I would really like side buttons. What mouse would you guys recommend me? I use palm/claw depending on what game I am playing. I want a perfect sensor. I don't want the deathadder because it is razor and it has to much problems with it(double clicking etc etc)

I have come down to the g400 or the zowie EC2 evo/AM

Which one would be better for me and my needs? The g400 seems a little bit weird shaped and heavy? There is not much info on the Zowie ec2 evo and it's tracking capabilities compared to the other mice. I am also looking at the roccat savu. The zowie FK also just released but again there is not much info on it.

Also which one has better clicking feel? I hate the deathadder clicking.

Thanks!!
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
February 19 2013 13:40 GMT
#2045
G400 has problem free sensor and its the most ergonomic shaped one I have ever used but ofc it comes down to preference.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 15:33:55
February 19 2013 15:33 GMT
#2046
On February 19 2013 21:47 kuruptt wrote:
I've asked this question before but no one answered =(

I am looking for a new mouse for the first time in my life. I have used the WMO since I got a computer. I am very heavily into competitive gaming mostly playing sc2/dota 2/ and some CS:GO. I know the WMO is considered 1 of the best mouse before but I think it's time for me to get into new technology, and I would really like side buttons. What mouse would you guys recommend me? I use palm/claw depending on what game I am playing. I want a perfect sensor. I don't want the deathadder because it is razor and it has to much problems with it(double clicking etc etc)

I have come down to the g400 or the zowie EC2 evo/AM

Which one would be better for me and my needs? The g400 seems a little bit weird shaped and heavy? There is not much info on the Zowie ec2 evo and it's tracking capabilities compared to the other mice. I am also looking at the roccat savu. The zowie FK also just released but again there is not much info on it.

Also which one has better clicking feel? I hate the deathadder clicking.

Thanks!!


You don't need better technology. The WMO is still good. You said "claw grip". Ever considered CM Storm Xornet/Spawn or Zowie mico? They are small - but good. Zowie is very popular for pro sc2 players. (Logitech G1, Logitech G9x and Zowie Mico are probably the most popular ones)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
February 19 2013 17:27 GMT
#2047
I wonder if Razer knows that they are charging over $100 for the Deathadder on UK site. Im not sure what to think of this, thought it was like $40 for some reason
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TwilightRain
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany351 Posts
February 19 2013 18:15 GMT
#2048
On February 20 2013 02:27 Cyro wrote:
I wonder if Razer knows that they are charging over $100 for the Deathadder on UK site. Im not sure what to think of this, thought it was like $40 for some reason

Deathadder 2013 is about 70 $ right now.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
February 19 2013 18:49 GMT
#2049
On February 20 2013 02:27 Cyro wrote:
I wonder if Razer knows that they are charging over $100 for the Deathadder on UK site. Im not sure what to think of this, thought it was like $40 for some reason


The UK is properly messed up because of how strong the pound is. We had a UK bank take ~$70 off of prize money as international transfer fees. Shipping an arcade stick (more prizes) to mainland EU from the UK would've cost 50 pounds. The only thing cheaper when it comes to gaming is the games themselves which are $5~$10 cheaper than mainland EU.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
February 20 2013 02:48 GMT
#2050
I have a very nice Zowie Ec1 evo white but I wouldnt mind trying another mouse because I havent tried much else besides deathadders

Is there any other nice Mice that do not need USB drivers ? I love that the EC1 has plug and play so when I go to a LAN I dont need to install anything
kuruptt
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada168 Posts
February 20 2013 11:37 GMT
#2051
On February 20 2013 00:33 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 21:47 kuruptt wrote:
I've asked this question before but no one answered =(

I am looking for a new mouse for the first time in my life. I have used the WMO since I got a computer. I am very heavily into competitive gaming mostly playing sc2/dota 2/ and some CS:GO. I know the WMO is considered 1 of the best mouse before but I think it's time for me to get into new technology, and I would really like side buttons. What mouse would you guys recommend me? I use palm/claw depending on what game I am playing. I want a perfect sensor. I don't want the deathadder because it is razor and it has to much problems with it(double clicking etc etc)

I have come down to the g400 or the zowie EC2 evo/AM

Which one would be better for me and my needs? The g400 seems a little bit weird shaped and heavy? There is not much info on the Zowie ec2 evo and it's tracking capabilities compared to the other mice. I am also looking at the roccat savu. The zowie FK also just released but again there is not much info on it.

Also which one has better clicking feel? I hate the deathadder clicking.

Thanks!!


You don't need better technology. The WMO is still good. You said "claw grip". Ever considered CM Storm Xornet/Spawn or Zowie mico? They are small - but good. Zowie is very popular for pro sc2 players. (Logitech G1, Logitech G9x and Zowie Mico are probably the most popular ones)


None of the mouse you said are perfect sensors, =( I think most sc2 pros just use gear that are given to them. I know the WMO is still very good, however I would really prefer side buttons and better clicking feel ^_^. No one here has tried the zowie sc2 evo?
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 12:59:00
February 20 2013 12:57 GMT
#2052
On February 20 2013 20:37 kuruptt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 00:33 llIH wrote:
On February 19 2013 21:47 kuruptt wrote:
I've asked this question before but no one answered =(

I am looking for a new mouse for the first time in my life. I have used the WMO since I got a computer. I am very heavily into competitive gaming mostly playing sc2/dota 2/ and some CS:GO. I know the WMO is considered 1 of the best mouse before but I think it's time for me to get into new technology, and I would really like side buttons. What mouse would you guys recommend me? I use palm/claw depending on what game I am playing. I want a perfect sensor. I don't want the deathadder because it is razor and it has to much problems with it(double clicking etc etc)

I have come down to the g400 or the zowie EC2 evo/AM

Which one would be better for me and my needs? The g400 seems a little bit weird shaped and heavy? There is not much info on the Zowie ec2 evo and it's tracking capabilities compared to the other mice. I am also looking at the roccat savu. The zowie FK also just released but again there is not much info on it.

Also which one has better clicking feel? I hate the deathadder clicking.

Thanks!!


You don't need better technology. The WMO is still good. You said "claw grip". Ever considered CM Storm Xornet/Spawn or Zowie mico? They are small - but good. Zowie is very popular for pro sc2 players. (Logitech G1, Logitech G9x and Zowie Mico are probably the most popular ones)




None of the mouse you said are perfect sensors, =( I think most sc2 pros just use gear that are given to them. I know the WMO is still very good, however I would really prefer side buttons and better clicking feel ^_^. No one here has tried the zowie sc2 evo?



Flawless mice/sensor list:
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2024663
7 buttons :
-Cooler Master Storm Spawn (Avago ADNS-3090). (Jittering fixed since firmware 30a ; high LoD fixed by firmwares 31 and 32, but it may have introduced some tracking issues with certain surfaces. Note : CM's tech team seems pretty active.)


Mouses without prediction (or which can be removed) yet to be proven flawless :
-Zowie MiCO (PixArt PAN3305DK-H). (Note : quite low perfect control speed limit ? (1.27m/s))


IMO 1.1 and 3.0 are listed as flawless sensors too. (In addition to your WMO of course )


NB: DRG changed from Razer Imperator to Zowie Mico while he was being sponsored by Razer. (Razer did not give him a mico)
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
February 20 2013 13:09 GMT
#2053
what DPI do most pros use who use the mico 400 800 or 1600 ?
TwilightRain
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 13:46:34
February 20 2013 13:46 GMT
#2054
On February 20 2013 22:09 ToguRo wrote:
what DPI do most pros use who use the mico 400 800 or 1600 ?

With 6/11 windows sense, meaning 1:1 tracking to movement ratio, all of them use 800 dpi.
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
February 20 2013 13:52 GMT
#2055
On February 20 2013 22:46 TwilightRain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 22:09 ToguRo wrote:
what DPI do most pros use who use the mico 400 800 or 1600 ?

With 6/11 windows sense, meaning 1:1 tracking to movement ratio, all of them use 800 dpi.



so would you say my EC1 evo at 1150 is probably pretty similar ?


if so I will probably just keep it
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 20 2013 13:56 GMT
#2056
On February 20 2013 22:52 ToguRo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 22:46 TwilightRain wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:09 ToguRo wrote:
what DPI do most pros use who use the mico 400 800 or 1600 ?

With 6/11 windows sense, meaning 1:1 tracking to movement ratio, all of them use 800 dpi.



so would you say my EC1 evo at 1150 is probably pretty similar ?


if so I will probably just keep it


1150 vs 800 is faster. You do the math.
But it is very close of course.
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
February 20 2013 13:58 GMT
#2057
On February 20 2013 22:56 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 22:52 ToguRo wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:46 TwilightRain wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:09 ToguRo wrote:
what DPI do most pros use who use the mico 400 800 or 1600 ?

With 6/11 windows sense, meaning 1:1 tracking to movement ratio, all of them use 800 dpi.



so would you say my EC1 evo at 1150 is probably pretty similar ?


if so I will probably just keep it


1150 vs 800 is faster. You do the math.
But it is very close of course.



I didnt mean Dpi wise I am fine with the 1150 I just mean he is talking about flawless sensors acceleration etc. just wondering how the ec1 evo sensor is compared to the mico
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 14:02:39
February 20 2013 14:00 GMT
#2058
On February 20 2013 22:58 ToguRo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 22:56 llIH wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:52 ToguRo wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:46 TwilightRain wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:09 ToguRo wrote:
what DPI do most pros use who use the mico 400 800 or 1600 ?

With 6/11 windows sense, meaning 1:1 tracking to movement ratio, all of them use 800 dpi.



so would you say my EC1 evo at 1150 is probably pretty similar ?


if so I will probably just keep it


1150 vs 800 is faster. You do the math.
But it is very close of course.



I didnt mean Dpi wise I am fine with the 1150 I just mean he is talking about flawless sensors acceleration etc. just wondering how the ec1 evo sensor is compared to the mico


Check the link I posted above. from ESR.
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2024663
TwilightRain
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany351 Posts
February 20 2013 14:00 GMT
#2059
On February 20 2013 22:52 ToguRo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 22:46 TwilightRain wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:09 ToguRo wrote:
what DPI do most pros use who use the mico 400 800 or 1600 ?

With 6/11 windows sense, meaning 1:1 tracking to movement ratio, all of them use 800 dpi.



so would you say my EC1 evo at 1150 is probably pretty similar ?


if so I will probably just keep it

Yes, you should leave it at 1150 and 6/11 windows sense. With Zowie mice you cant really do too much to adjudst the sensitivity apart from choosing the dpi without loosing accurate tracking.
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
February 20 2013 15:00 GMT
#2060
On February 20 2013 23:00 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 22:58 ToguRo wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:56 llIH wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:52 ToguRo wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:46 TwilightRain wrote:
On February 20 2013 22:09 ToguRo wrote:
what DPI do most pros use who use the mico 400 800 or 1600 ?

With 6/11 windows sense, meaning 1:1 tracking to movement ratio, all of them use 800 dpi.



so would you say my EC1 evo at 1150 is probably pretty similar ?


if so I will probably just keep it


1150 vs 800 is faster. You do the math.
But it is very close of course.



I didnt mean Dpi wise I am fine with the 1150 I just mean he is talking about flawless sensors acceleration etc. just wondering how the ec1 evo sensor is compared to the mico


Check the link I posted above. from ESR.
http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=2024663



I dont see the ec1 on the list ...does that mean its not flawless ?
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