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On January 03 2012 17:05 FabledIntegral wrote:Not really to sure about monitors, but I've seen this one recommended a few times, it's on sale (today only) on 1saleaday.com. http://1saleaday.com/wireless/?CID=173477&AFID=178621Dell UltraSharp 24'' U2412M for $264 after shipping. Cheapest alternative I've found is $329 on the Dell website.
spent most money i had set away already on stuff. too bad would of got this. Dell makes nice monitors.
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Thanks for the help guys - I ended up ordering the 2*U2412HM.
I am probably going to go with skyR's build provided. I have budgeted a couple hundred more for this rig, what would you guys improve from below, if any;
Intel Core i5 2500 for $220 @ MSY
MSI H61M P21 for $52 @ MSY
Trascend 8gb DDR3 1333MHz for $36 @ MSY
Powercolor Radeon HD6870 for $169 @ MSY
Antec Neo Eco 450 for $58 @ MSY
Antec One Hundred for $65 @ MSY
Seagate 500GB for $75 @ MSY.
Only limitation is im based in Australia, so only really suppliers are MSY and PCCaseGear
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You might compare the looks of the Antec 100 with the Bit Fenix Merc Alpha mentioned earlier to see which one looks better to you. Other than that, I see four basic options for upgrading what you have so far.
#1 - move to an overclockable configuration (Z68 board/i5-2500k/heatsink). If you plan on streaming, this will probably be useful if you want to stream more than 480p. If you don't want to futz with overclocking though, not useful at all.
#2 - buy an SSD. Faster load times. A must if you play WoW or similar MMOs. Nice for single-player games, other hard drive access slowdown points. Not very useful if you mostly play SC2 (gotta wait on the other guy to load the map anyway).
#3 - move up to a Radeon 6950 1GB or a 560Ti. Will allow slightly higher quality settings playing very graphics-heavy games (Total War series, many modern shooters/war sims). Will not be noticeable for low graphics-requirements games, like SC2, MMOs and basically the whole Blizzard lineup.
#4 - buy fancy peripherals (have a nice gaming mouse?)/take a girl out to a nice dinner/stuff the extra dollars in your mattress and hope the koalas don't get into it.
I listed the options in no particular order. If it were me, I'd probably pick #2 or #4.
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if you want an ssd, msy have the 320 series for a pretty decent price, as well as the 510s. pccg have the 510 120g for $249, msy for $269
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Dont buy PC's with Enermax PSU, I bought almost 1,8k$ PC 3 months ago and my 600W PSU is dead for good... dont believe when people say that enermax psu are one of the best on the market... I got 4 pc's over 10 years 3 witch chieftec and 1 w ith enermax, all chieftec are/were working with no problems, and enermax for 100$+ after 95 days is complitly dead.
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On January 03 2012 19:57 Bulkers wrote:
Dont buy PC's with Enermax PSU, I bought almost 1,8k$ PC 3 months ago and my 600W PSU is dead for good... dont believe when people say that enermax psu are one of the best on the market... I got 4 pc's over 10 years 3 witch chieftec and 1 w ith enermax, all chieftec are/were working with no problems, and enermax for 100$+ after 95 days is complitly dead.
yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
 enermax used to be pretty wickedtastic but they arent really at the top anymore. dont they own impervio too? anyways, the hcp-1200 is still the psu to beat
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On January 03 2012 19:57 Bulkers wrote:
Dont buy PC's with Enermax PSU, I bought almost 1,8k$ PC 3 months ago and my 600W PSU is dead for good... dont believe when people say that enermax psu are one of the best on the market... I got 4 pc's over 10 years 3 witch chieftec and 1 w ith enermax, all chieftec are/were working with no problems, and enermax for 100$+ after 95 days is complitly dead.
Individual experience is not really a good indicator. Even the best brands have the occasional monday morning sample that breaks quickly. Such things can happen with any brand, just a lot less often with good brands. Enermax is still a good brand, an individual unit failing early is annoying, but hardly an indicator of a widespread problem.
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I know thats indvidual problem, and it can happen to any other brand. But thats my personal opinion I use PC for over 15 years now and never got a problem with any PSU, at least not for first 2-3 years after buying it.
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So now you're claiming an extremely small, laughable sample size instead of an even more extremely small, laughable sample size? You're entitled to your own superstitions and experiences, but don't let them influence advice you give others, unless you want to be intentionally misleading.
By the way, are you talking about a model that is 100 USD or one that you paid the equivalent of 100 USD for? Was it an NAXN or Tomahawk model; if not, which? They get their lower-end power supplies manufactured by CWT or Sirtec these days, but it's not like those OEMs particularly have QC issues either.
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High Current Gamer is better.
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It's better and cheaper o_o Easiest choice ever
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haha thank you guys, I had a feeling Antec was the better choice.
Another question, the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ was recommended to me for my CPU cooler, but this page says its made for Socket LGA1366 / 1156 / 775 motherboards, can someone verify that it will work for a 1155 chipset?
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1155 and 1156 use the same mounting holes so yes it'll work.
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It will work. The cooler mounting mechanism (not the socket itself) for LGA 1155 is the same as for LGA 1156; they just haven't updated that particular product page.
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Hey, I need a new pc that will mainly be used for games like Starcraft2, Civ5, Skyrim etc.
A friend of mine made this list, it would be great if you could tell me your opinion about it and if something needs to be changed.
Budget is about 550 Euro, prices are from http://www.hardwareversand.de where I want to buy it.
MB: ASUS P8H67-V Rev 3.0, Sockel 1155, ATX, DDR3
87,70 €
CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 Box, LGA1155
107,57 €
GPU: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6850 OC, 1024MB GDDR5, PCI-Express
136,71 €
RAM: 8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9
29,57 €
HD: Samsung EcoGreen F4 2000GB
109,90 €
Case: Xigmatek Asgard, ATX
31,61 €
(Additionally, a dvd-drive and fans.)
My display resolution atm is 1280*1024 (might buy a bigger one in the near future).
There is already a Xilence XP480 power supply, would that suffice for this pc?
CPU: Would it be reasonable to go for an i5 instead of the i3?
Peripheral equipment is at hand but I don't want to take anything else from my old pc.
Thanks in advance 
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He could spring for an i5 but that depends on how much extra cash he is willing to spend and what his needs are. Honestly I would spring for a 6870 first before an i5.
Also i think you can use a cheaper H67 motherboard since overclocking doesnt seem to be a concern or anything like that. That could probably save the money for a 6870 right there.
Also i would recommend against a 5400 RPM drive unless he really needs the space and not the speed. Money can be saved here as well but I would have to know his storage needs to really make a comment.
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On January 04 2012 08:31 Sandtrout wrote:Hey, I need a new pc that will mainly be used for games like Starcraft2, Civ5, Skyrim etc. A friend of mine made this list, it would be great if you could tell me your opinion about it and if something needs to be changed. Budget is about 550 Euro, prices are from http://www.hardwareversand.de where I want to buy it. MB: ASUS P8H67-V Rev 3.0, Sockel 1155, ATX, DDR3 87,70 € CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 Box, LGA1155 107,57 € GPU: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6850 OC, 1024MB GDDR5, PCI-Express 136,71 € RAM: 8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 29,57 € HD: Samsung EcoGreen F4 2000GB 109,90 € Case: Xigmatek Asgard, ATX 31,61 € (Additionally, a dvd-drive and fans.) My display resolution atm is 1280*1024 (might buy a bigger one in the near future). There is already a Xilence XP480 power supply, would that suffice for this pc? CPU: Would it be reasonable to go for an i5 instead of the i3? Peripheral equipment is at hand but I don't want to take anything else from my old pc. Thanks in advance
That mobo is horribly overpriced and I can't imagine you'd need it, the CPU is good, that graphics card makes no sense as for 7 euros more you could get a 6870, and you have no power supply and for the power supply my choice would be super flower golden green 400w or cx430 if you are cheapo
and also bitfenix merc is better at same price
Btw if you live in germany you could lower the total by buying a part of the components from mindfactory
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Okay, used the last 50 pages of thread and some other looking about, here is the build I have set up. (almost) Looking for critique/feedback and a motherboard recommendation before I finalize.
cpu: Intel i5 2500k
gpu: 560 ti or 560 ti 448
Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
mboard: HALP
memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
SSD: crucial m4 ct128m4ssd2 OR sandisk ultra sdssh-120g-g25
PSU: Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-450 450W Continuous
DVD drive:ASUS 24X DVD Burner
monitor: ultrasharp U2212HM
Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
speakers: Logitech S-220 17 Watts 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System - OEM
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Cpu/heatsink/memory seem pretty locked in. I don't know why I would go with anything else.
gpu- I'm a little irrational on this point, I don't want a Radeon card. Any thoughts on whether it's worth it to go for the 448 core version for about $40 more? It sounds like they are really big physically, dunno if it would fit easily in case choice. Also looking for any insight on manufacturer; EVGA being the default choice I guess, but I really don't have a base preference.
motherboard: I don't really know where to go here. A lot of these specifications mean fuck-all to me. I don't know the meaningful difference between *67 and *68 boards, or which manufacturer has the best track record.. every board I look up has some degree of complaint, no clear winners. I will be overclocking CPU and possibly GPU once I do the research on it.
SSD: These are new to me. Can anyone explain the dif in price between crucial m4 and Sandisk Ultra? Is it just the read speed, or am I missing something here?
PSU: just from recommendation in thread. Will an overclocked 2500k + 560ti (possibly 448 core) + rest run without issue on the rosewill 450?
monitor: I dislike TN viewing angles, so I thought I would try this. $219 on the dell site, seemed very reasonable. Let me know if there's anything inherently wrong with this choice.
Case: This seemed fine to me, just let me know if there are any spacing problems with other components that I am not seeing.
speakers: I don't know anything about speakers.
Thanks in advance for any advice
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On January 04 2012 08:43 Shikyo wrote:
That mobo is horribly overpriced and I can't imagine you'd need it, the CPU is good, that graphics card makes no sense as for 7 euros more you could get a 6870, and you have no power supply and for the power supply my choice would be super flower golden green 400w or cx430 if you are cheapo
and also bitfenix merc is better at same price
Btw if you live in germany you could lower the total by buying a part of the components from mindfactory
Do you have a suggestion for a better/cheaper motherboard? My friend can't really help me regarding those.
I already have a power supply that I could use, it's a Xilence XP480.
Biggest question I have is: Would it be reasonable to get a duocore with the games I want to play or would I get problems too fast in the future and go for a quadcore?
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