EPTAny particular reason why you recommend the Rosewill Capstone over the Neo Eco? The Neo Eco is cheaper and the specs seem similar to me (then again, I don't know much about power supply specs.)
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coreydota
United States180 Posts
Any particular reason why you recommend the Rosewill Capstone over the Neo Eco? The Neo Eco is cheaper and the specs seem similar to me (then again, I don't know much about power supply specs.) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Neo eco is 80-82% efficiency and the capstone is 87-91% so the neo eco wastes around twice as much electricity. I'm not sure about your electricity costs, but it's a more quiet, solid unit that should last for a longer time, can actually deliver a constant 550w no problem, and also will pay back the 5$ difference in maybe a month with lower electricity bills. oh yeah and it runs cooler as well which in turn improves the thermals and hence the lifespan of your entire system. Not significantly or probably even measurably of course but still. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The electrical design of the Capstone is more modern and sophisticated (and costs significantly more to implement, so the price should be significantly higher), so it will (1) save energy, (2) create less waste heat as a result, (3) provide more stable power to the system under many different circumstances. Also it uses higher-quality components that will last longer; because of the lower waste heat and large 140mm fan, the fan can move very slowly, making it even quieter. Less heat also means less stress on the internal components, which are already of higher quality. It's not that the Neo Eco is even bad, just that the Capstone is very good. 450W is just an advertisement, so it can be certified above 87% efficiency at 450W power draw (to meet 80 plus gold for marketing purposes). If you look at the components, they can easily handle more than 450W anyway, while still running well in spec. In the Asian markets, the same unit under a different brand is labeled as 450W 80 plus gold, but they advertise it can do 550W at 80 plus silver levels. | ||
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Medrea
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
That's a two-transistor forward design with expensive transistors and rectifiers, focusing on efficiency rather than performance. Two-transistor forward on the primary side is standard these days, except for on terrible units and on higher-end PSUs. When you use more expensive silicon with lower effective "on" resistance, and so on, you can get higher efficiency even with such a design, without DC-DC on the secondary. Anyway, it's not like it's 87% efficient at full load, but maybe around there in the 30-60% load region? | ||
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Medrea
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It came with extremely high regards 7 or 8 years ago and Im proud of it. The review I read said it was | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/atx-psu5_6.html 88% efficiency tops, more like 83% at full load. xbitlabs has much different results though (but those make less sense). | ||
Cronosc2
Germany108 Posts
im looking forward to a new pc after chrismas is done now :D i live in germany and i want to spend 400-500€ for my new pc with ttesports commander case because its badass :D i dont need hard drive and cd/dvd burner or drive (sorry for my lack of knowledge) because i keep them from my old pc i fantastic site is www.hardwareversand.de or mindfactory.de .. looking forward for TL's fast replys PS: it should run sc2 lagfree ultra np whatsoever xD | ||
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Medrea
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On December 28 2011 04:07 Myrmidon wrote: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/361 http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/atx-psu5_6.html 88% efficiency tops, more like 83% at full load. xbitlabs has much different results though (but those make less sense). Either way, a good buy. I am won over. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 28 2011 04:07 Cronosc2 wrote: Hey TL Community im looking forward to a new pc after chrismas is done now :D i live in germany and i want to spend 400-500€ for my new pc with ttesports commander case because its badass :D i dont need hard drive and cd/dvd burner or drive (sorry for my lack of knowledge) because i keep them from my old pc i fantastic site is www.hardwareversand.de or mindfactory.de .. looking forward for TL's fast replys PS: it should run sc2 lagfree ultra np whatsoever xD If your old burner is IDE (PATA) you need a SATA one, since the old standard's really being phased out and motherboards tend not to support that. Core i5-2320 - €167 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p757964_Intel-Core-i5-2320-4x-3-00GHz-So-1155-BOX.html TeamGroup 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - €26 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p681031_8GB-TeamGroup-Elite-DDR3-1333-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit.html AsRock H61M/U3S3 - €53 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p730965_ASRock-H61M-U3S3-Intel-H61-So-1155-Dual-Channel-DDR3-mATX-Retail.html HIS Radeon HD 6870 - €140 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p757538_1024MB-HIS-Radeon-HD-6870-Fan-Aktiv-PCIe-2-1-x16--Retail-.html Antec Earthwatts Green 380W - €36 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p638901_380W-Antec-EA-380-Green-80-.html Thermaltake Commander MS-1 (this is what you were talking about?) - €39 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p745279_Thermaltake-Commander-MS-1-Window-USB3-0-Midi-Tower-ohne-Netzteil-schwarz.html | ||
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Cronosc2
Germany108 Posts
On December 28 2011 04:58 Myrmidon wrote: If your old burner is IDE (PATA) you need a SATA one, since the old standard's really being phased out and motherboards tend not to support that. Core i5-2320 - €167 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p757964_Intel-Core-i5-2320-4x-3-00GHz-So-1155-BOX.html TeamGroup 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - €26 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p681031_8GB-TeamGroup-Elite-DDR3-1333-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit.html AsRock H61M/U3S3 - €53 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p730965_ASRock-H61M-U3S3-Intel-H61-So-1155-Dual-Channel-DDR3-mATX-Retail.html HIS Radeon HD 6870 - €140 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p757538_1024MB-HIS-Radeon-HD-6870-Fan-Aktiv-PCIe-2-1-x16--Retail-.html Antec Earthwatts Green 380W - €36 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p638901_380W-Antec-EA-380-Green-80-.html Thermaltake Commander MS-1 (this is what you were talking about?) - €39 http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p745279_Thermaltake-Commander-MS-1-Window-USB3-0-Midi-Tower-ohne-Netzteil-schwarz.html naice one thank you very much  | ||
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Shiwoo
United States25 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Though the Dell is clearly better not only because of the LED but its fully adjustable stand and Dell's post sale support. | ||
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Mity
Canada50 Posts
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Shiwoo
United States25 Posts
On December 28 2011 09:19 skyR wrote: All monitors are LCD. Ones advertised as LCD just use the traditional CCFL backlighting while ones advertised as LED use LED backlighting. LED monitors will typically be thinner, more efficient, and brighter. Though the Dell is clearly better not only because of the LED but its fully adjustable stand and Dell's post sale support. I thought that both of them were LED backlit. If so, do you still recommend the Dell? The other difference I saw was that the Contrast ratio for the Acer is a "ACM." Do you know what that means? Thanks again for all your help. You make this process very simple and easy. Edit: If you were to buy a 21.5 inch. What would you buy? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On December 28 2011 09:27 Mity wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? 800CAD What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Playing games like Skyrim, SC2, Batman, Diablo 3 on ultra or high. What is your upgrade cycle? 2-4 years When do you plan on building it? This week Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? No Where are you buying your parts from? NCIX.CA Total: $753 Note that the motherboard will only run the memory at 1333MHz but it doesn't really matter since you decided to not purchase during the start of Boxing Week, everything is sold out and this is the least expensive option. Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57964&promoid=1301 Intel H61 @ $69 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD3315 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59496 MSI Radeon HD6950 @ $230 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64182&promoid=1301 Coolermaster HAF912 @ $55 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1301 Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $40 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57078&promoid=1301 Seasonic S12II 520 @ $65 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=52173&promoid=1301 DVD Burner @ $16 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45667&promoid=1301 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $88 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1301 On December 28 2011 09:34 Shiwoo wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On December 28 2011 09:19 skyR wrote: All monitors are LCD. Ones advertised as LCD just use the traditional CCFL backlighting while ones advertised as LED use LED backlighting. LED monitors will typically be thinner, more efficient, and brighter. Though the Dell is clearly better not only because of the LED but its fully adjustable stand and Dell's post sale support. I thought that both of them were LED backlit. If so, do you still recommend the Dell? The other difference I saw was that the Contrast ratio for the Acer is a "ACM." Do you know what that means? Thanks again for all your help. You make this process very simple and easy. Edit: If you were to buy a 21.5 inch. What would you buy? And ya I didn't look in depth at the Acer and assumed it was just LCD since you asked a question regarding LCD vs LED. ACM is adaptive contrast management (some Acer marketing garbage). Specifications on monitors doesn't matter because there is no universal measure. If I were to buy a 21.5" monitor, I'd get the Dell Ultrasharp U2212HM. If you can't afford the U2212HM (which is usually ~$200 with coupon codes) than you can just pick up any TN monitor because they're virtually all the same. | ||
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
http://www.ncix.ca/products/index.php?sku=57962&vpn=BX80623I52500K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1301 | ||
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Shinshin
United States106 Posts
On December 28 2011 12:42 Ata wrote: might be worth it to pay 10$ more for a 2500k: http://www.ncix.ca/products/index.php?sku=57962&vpn=BX80623I52500K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1301 With an addition $30-100 for mobo with a chipset to utilize that CPU. But he has no intention of overclocking. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
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MK1593
United States3 Posts
Budget-Preferably under 1300 not including monitor Resolution- Best possible Using for-Gaming and everyday use. I would like to play sc2, skyrim, etc at best settings possible for budget. Upgrade cycle- Around three years Building time- Now Overclocking- I'm a total noob and would if suggested for what I will be using it for Operating system- Will need to purchase one Second gpu or crossfire- Dont know if necessary Buying from- US Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I was going to buy prebuilt but heard about the advantages of building and what better place to seek help than here. | ||
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