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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JohnnyBanana
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada493 Posts
December 26 2011 23:02 GMT
#16661
On December 27 2011 07:34 Tx3Fate wrote:
Thank you so much for the feedback skyR!

Quick question, since I will be going for the 1tb HDD, will I still need the SSD? Will I need them both? I don't exactly understand how that works

You should get a new monitor, imo. 1280x1024 is pretty crappy for gaming, and lot of the power of new hardware will be wasted on such a crappy resolution. 1920x1080 monitors are pretty cheap nowadays. Friend picked up a 23" 1080 for $60 today, which is boxing day.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
December 26 2011 23:02 GMT
#16662
Thank you so so much for all the fast replies! I'm settling on the MSI version, costing 280$ a piece. Since you say everything else is great, I am considering blowing 560$ to go Crossfire/SLI. Terrible decision?
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
JohnnyBanana
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada493 Posts
December 26 2011 23:03 GMT
#16663
On December 27 2011 08:02 Aocowns wrote:
Thank you so so much for all the fast replies! I'm settling on the MSI version, costing 280$ a piece. Since you say everything else is great, I am considering blowing 560$ to go Crossfire/SLI. Terrible decision?

Crossfire/SLI not worth it imo. Your choice, though.
spscannon
Profile Joined November 2011
146 Posts
December 26 2011 23:16 GMT
#16664
On December 27 2011 07:56 skyR wrote:
CX500V2 for $50 (w/ promo code EMCJHHD25, ends 1/1) is fine for both configurations: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027


yea i saw that power supply, but it seems to have pretty bad reviews/issues recently- which makes me hesitant to buy it. Any others you would recommend?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 26 2011 23:23 GMT
#16665
The only other ones in that price range would be the Corsair CX430V2 and Rosewill Green 430. I would allocate your funds differently so that you can afford a ~$60 power supply such as the Rosewill Capstone 450, Seasonic S12II 520, Antec High Current Gamer 520, Antec Earthwatts 500D / 650, Antec Neo Eco 520, or XFX Core Edition 550 - whichever is least expensive.
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
December 26 2011 23:31 GMT
#16666
On December 27 2011 08:02 Aocowns wrote:
Thank you so so much for all the fast replies! I'm settling on the MSI version, costing 280$ a piece. Since you say everything else is great, I am considering blowing 560$ to go Crossfire/SLI. Terrible decision?


Do you have a link for that one? It sounds like the GTX 560 Ti with 448 cores, which is better though more expensive than a normal GTX 560 Ti. The GTX 560 Ti should be under $250 or so, unless my idea of European pricing is way off.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
December 26 2011 23:35 GMT
#16667
On December 27 2011 08:31 Molybdenum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 08:02 Aocowns wrote:
Thank you so so much for all the fast replies! I'm settling on the MSI version, costing 280$ a piece. Since you say everything else is great, I am considering blowing 560$ to go Crossfire/SLI. Terrible decision?


Do you have a link for that one? It sounds like the GTX 560 Ti with 448 cores, which is better though more expensive than a normal GTX 560 Ti. The GTX 560 Ti should be under $250 or so, unless my idea of European pricing is way off.

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=622728#extra
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
kmart
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada39 Posts
December 26 2011 23:37 GMT
#16668
So this is the build I plan on doing, and am curious to what everyone thinks

CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K Quad Core Unlocked Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Sandy Bridge 8MB

MOBO: ASUS P8Z68-V Pro GEN3 Z68 LGA1155 ATX 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2 PCI B3 Motherboard
Getting the gen3 because it has pci-e 3.0 supprot

Video Card: AMD 7970 (eventually get a 2nd one for crossfire once the price comes down)

Ram: G.Skill 2x4gig

Power: Antec High Current Gamer 900W 24PIN ATX12V V2.3 Active PFC 80 Plus Bronze SLI Power Supply 135mm Fan
Not to sure about a powersupply but this once was in another topic but I may end up going bigger in the end

SSD: Corsair Force Series GT 120GB SSD

HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB
Probabbly hold off on getting a new hard drive till the prices come back down

Case: Antec Eleven Hundred Mid-Tower Performance Gaming Case XL-ATX 3X5.25 2X2.5 6X3.5IN 2XUSB3 INT No PSU
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 26 2011 23:43 GMT
#16669
If you intend on playing games at 1080p than it's a waste of money.

You don't need a 900w unit for CrossfireX 7970.

PCI-E 3.0 support is useless because you can't even use it with a core i7 2600k. You require Ivybridge to use PCI-E 3.0 and the cards coming out in 2012 won't even saturate PCI-E 2.0.

ASUS P8Z68-V Pro is basically the exact same as the P8Z68-V.

Corsair Force GT? Meh. I rather get a Crucial M4.
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 23:51:32
December 26 2011 23:50 GMT
#16670
On December 27 2011 08:35 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 08:31 Molybdenum wrote:
On December 27 2011 08:02 Aocowns wrote:
Thank you so so much for all the fast replies! I'm settling on the MSI version, costing 280$ a piece. Since you say everything else is great, I am considering blowing 560$ to go Crossfire/SLI. Terrible decision?


Do you have a link for that one? It sounds like the GTX 560 Ti with 448 cores, which is better though more expensive than a normal GTX 560 Ti. The GTX 560 Ti should be under $250 or so, unless my idea of European pricing is way off.

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=622728#extra


Nevermind, that one is good. I just don't know European pricing.
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
December 26 2011 23:50 GMT
#16671
On December 27 2011 03:49 ChriseC wrote:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/61905209.png/

can anyone say if its good? especially about the motherboard since i dont have a clue which one to use.

also how much power do i need to run this? and will i be able to overclock it in 1-2 years and if no what do i need for it? a new cooler and more power?


pls answer my question someone, would reall appreciate it :D
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 26 2011 23:55 GMT
#16672
On December 27 2011 08:50 ChriseC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2011 03:49 ChriseC wrote:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/61905209.png/

can anyone say if its good? especially about the motherboard since i dont have a clue which one to use.

also how much power do i need to run this? and will i be able to overclock it in 1-2 years and if no what do i need for it? a new cooler and more power?


pls answer my question someone, would reall appreciate it :D


It was answered. You just ignored it or missed it.

On December 27 2011 05:34 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 03:49 ChriseC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/61905209.png/

can anyone say if its good? especially about the motherboard since i dont have a clue which one to use.

also how much power do i need to run this? and will i be able to overclock it in 1-2 years and if no what do i need for it? a new cooler and more power?


C43 suck. The configuration only needs a quality ~500w unit.
kmart
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada39 Posts
December 27 2011 00:07 GMT
#16673
On December 27 2011 08:43 skyR wrote:
If you intend on playing games at 1080p than it's a waste of money.

You don't need a 900w unit for CrossfireX 7970.

PCI-E 3.0 support is useless because you can't even use it with a core i7 2600k. You require Ivybridge to use PCI-E 3.0 and the cards coming out in 2012 won't even saturate PCI-E 2.0.

ASUS P8Z68-V Pro is basically the exact same as the P8Z68-V.

Corsair Force GT? Meh. I rather get a Crucial M4.


Thanks Man, I'll look into to those suggetions!
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
December 27 2011 00:10 GMT
#16674
On December 27 2011 05:33 Shikyo wrote:

That's just terrible optimizing and poor item choice. Also no I don't think it'd be worth it to go for a i3 2100.

I'd go with:
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p730972_ASRock-H61M-VS-Intel-H61-So-1155-Dual-Channel-DDR3-mATX-Retail.html
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p759040_Intel-Pentium-G630-2x-2-70GHz-So-1155-BOX.html
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p735229_4GB-TeamGroup-Team-Elite-DDR3-1333-DIMM-CL9-Single.html
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p619718_Xigmatek-Asgard-Midi-Tower-ohne-Netzteil-schwarz.html
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p684144_1024MB-Sapphire-Radeon-HD-6850-Aktiv-PCIe-2-1-x16--Lite-Retail-.html
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p743100_430W-Corsair-CX-Serie-V2.html
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p738466_Samsung-DVDRW-SATA-22x-SH-222AB-bare-black.html
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p684828_500GB-Western-Digital-Caviar-Blue-WD5000AAKX-16MB-3-5Zoll--8-9cm--SATA-6Gb-s.html

This totals about 374 but is way better than the build you had. Also everything is cheaper at mindfactory so not sure why you're buying in hwversand, also g540 is terrible value


As I said - I have like no knowledge ... ( It's not that easy to inforum yourself if you have no clue at all. :D) That's why I was asking you guys first before buying anything - rightfully so I suppose. ^^ Thanks a bunch for the help! =)
Outcomac
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway3 Posts
December 27 2011 00:26 GMT
#16675
Hey guys, I'm buying a new computer, and I've pretty much settled with the one linked below, but I want to know if there is anything else on the list I should get instead.
http://www.komplett.no/k/config.aspx?ConfigSystemId=10523
The things that are currently selected are:

Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced Sort Vifter: 1x 140mm Front, 1x 140mm Topp, 1x 120mm Bak, Blå LEDs, 19 dBA
Silver Power SP-SS620M 620W PSU ATX 12V V2.2, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular, 2× 6pin PCIe, 2x 6+2pin PCIe, 9x SATA
Intel® Core i5-2500 Processor Socket-LGA1155, Quad Core, 3.3Ghz, 6MB, 95W, Boxed w/fa
MSI P67A-GD65 B3, Socket-1155 ATX, P67, DDR3, 2xPCIe(2.0)x16, SLI/CFX, SATA 6Gb/s, USB3.0, eSATA, FW, THX, EFI
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 4GB CL9 4GB XMS3 module, CL9-9-9-24, 1.5V, Vengeance Heatspreader, 240 pi
Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.1, 2xDVI-I, 1xnative-HDMI, DisplayPort, Lite-Retail
Corsair SSD Force Series F60A, 60GB SATA2, 2,5", 280B/270B/s read/write, incl 2,5" to 3,5" bracket
Seagate Barracuda® 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s (SATA 3.0), 7200RPM, 3,5", KOMPLETT PC ONLY
Sony Optiarc DVD±RW Writer, AD-5280S SATA, DVD±R: 24x, DVD+RW: 8x, DVD-RW: 6x, Bulk, BLACK
It is better to sit quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 27 2011 00:58 GMT
#16676
The core i5 2500 has a limited multiplier. For overclocking, you need the core i5 2500K.

I wouldn't get the Corsair Force since it's a first generation Sandforce, which is bad.

The 620w unit is only necessary if you plan on doing CrossfireX in the future. If not than the 500w unit is fine for an overclocked 2500k and a single overclocked 6870.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 27 2011 01:04 GMT
#16677
By the way, those SilverPower units are Seasonic S12II (not Bronze) 500W and Seasonic M12II Bronze 620W I think. Maybe with the slightly cheaper internals...I'm not sure.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-and-Cooling/Seasonic-S12-II-500W-Power-Supply-Review
http://hardocp.com/article/2010/05/18/seasonic_m12ii620_power_supply_review/1

So the 500W is plenty fine.

I looked at the other options and agree with skyR about those. P67A-GD65 seems like kind of a waste at first glance, especially without the i5-2500k, but they don't offer anything cheaper.
Outcomac
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway3 Posts
December 27 2011 01:28 GMT
#16678
I saw your responses (thank you btw), and did what you said. Will I now be able to run games like Skyrim and Starcraft 2 on medium/high graphics without overclocking?
It is better to sit quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
December 27 2011 01:29 GMT
#16679
On December 27 2011 08:55 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 08:50 ChriseC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2011 03:49 ChriseC wrote:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/61905209.png/

can anyone say if its good? especially about the motherboard since i dont have a clue which one to use.

also how much power do i need to run this? and will i be able to overclock it in 1-2 years and if no what do i need for it? a new cooler and more power?


pls answer my question someone, would reall appreciate it :D


It was answered. You just ignored it or missed it.

Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 05:34 skyR wrote:
On December 27 2011 03:49 ChriseC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/61905209.png/

can anyone say if its good? especially about the motherboard since i dont have a clue which one to use.

also how much power do i need to run this? and will i be able to overclock it in 1-2 years and if no what do i need for it? a new cooler and more power?


C43 suck. The configuration only needs a quality ~500w unit.


would u say the c45 is alot better? or sucks aswell? :D
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 27 2011 01:44 GMT
#16680
On December 27 2011 10:28 Outcomac wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I saw your responses (thank you btw), and did what you said. Will I now be able to run games like Skyrim and Starcraft 2 on medium/high graphics without overclocking?


Yes such a configuration is capable of running both games on reasonably high settings at 1080p.

On December 27 2011 10:29 ChriseC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2011 08:55 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 08:50 ChriseC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2011 03:49 ChriseC wrote:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/61905209.png/

can anyone say if its good? especially about the motherboard since i dont have a clue which one to use.

also how much power do i need to run this? and will i be able to overclock it in 1-2 years and if no what do i need for it? a new cooler and more power?


pls answer my question someone, would reall appreciate it :D


It was answered. You just ignored it or missed it.

Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 05:34 skyR wrote:
On December 27 2011 03:49 ChriseC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/61905209.png/

can anyone say if its good? especially about the motherboard since i dont have a clue which one to use.

also how much power do i need to run this? and will i be able to overclock it in 1-2 years and if no what do i need for it? a new cooler and more power?


C43 suck. The configuration only needs a quality ~500w unit.


would u say the c45 is alot better? or sucks aswell? :D


C45 is better. Though I would avoid MSI's C series altogether if there are other boards such as the Asrock P67 Pro3 or similar available to you.
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