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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
August 17 2010 00:10 GMT
#921
On August 17 2010 07:28 FragKrag wrote:
I wouldn't put down the money for a PC Power & Cooling. In the past, they were known to make good PSUs, but after being acquired by OCZ we have no idea how they will perform. I read a Hardware secrets review on the new 750W Silencer and they were not impressed at all.


We might not have a good idea about how they will perform, but it always helps to do a bit of research into the topic.

From these three reviews, at the very least these two specific PCP&C models are reasonably reliable, and the specific model that drewbie.root is interested in seems to be pretty solid. Of course, I agree with everyone else in saying that I don't think spending so much money on a power supply for this build is a cost efficient idea.

drewbie.root, your choices seem fine. I'm not really a big fan of mechanical drives in RAID 0 when a single SSD is a much simpler solution, but it might not be within your budget to have a SSD as a boot drive along with a mechanical drive for storage.

On August 17 2010 08:28 Morale wrote:
So i bought some new parts i including new HW, asus p6t se, i7 930, 6 gig corsair xms6 and a samsung HDD spinpoint or something. Thing is i have used my win 7 ultimate dvd on my old parts and when trying to boot from the installation dvd, i get the mobo start screen and i choose boot from DVDROM in bios. Thing is after i boot from it i get some screen saying its checking files. It passes then i see a kinda logo screen which get interupted by an error screen saying which says its detected new hardware (duh) and i need to boot from the installation disk and restart och switch language or something.

Would really like some help, thanks in forehand.


So you're trying to format and you get an error message at some point? Are you sure you're using an installation disc or just an upgrade disc? I believe they might be different, but I'm not too sure of this subject.
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 17 2010 00:19 GMT
#922
On August 17 2010 08:28 Morale wrote:
So i bought some new parts i including new HW, asus p6t se, i7 930, 6 gig corsair xms6 and a samsung HDD spinpoint or something. Thing is i have used my win 7 ultimate dvd on my old parts and when trying to boot from the installation dvd, i get the mobo start screen and i choose boot from DVDROM in bios. Thing is after i boot from it i get some screen saying its checking files. It passes then i see a kinda logo screen which get interupted by an error screen saying which says its detected new hardware (duh) and i need to boot from the installation disk and restart och switch language or something.

Would really like some help, thanks in forehand.

I don't fully understand this... are you booting from an install DVD or the Hard Drive?

You don't just select the option in the BIOS, there's the "Press any key to boot from DVD..." too. If you booted into your DVD, there shouldn't be any issue with "new hardware".
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Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
August 17 2010 00:48 GMT
#923
trying to boot from a bought copy of windows 7. Its an installation disc used on my old computer parts (same dvddrive different IDE cable)
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 17 2010 01:04 GMT
#924
On August 17 2010 09:48 Morale wrote:
trying to boot from a bought copy of windows 7. Its an installation disc used on my old computer parts (same dvddrive different IDE cable)

Try disconnecting everything that isn't necessary -the "new hardware" could be a flash drive or something.
6581
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
August 17 2010 08:01 GMT
#925
tried switching IDE cable and dvdrom, no change. Now i took my old HDD with win7 instaled (from the same dvd) and it says pretty much the same think. I can use the Startup repair but nothing happends. The screen goes black for 2 sek. Now i also unplugged keyboard and mouse so its only screen plugged in. Im goin fucking crazy
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
August 17 2010 08:14 GMT
#926
Some interesting articles on the GTX 460 and the ATI HD 58XX series

SLI GTX 460 1GB vs CrossFireX HD 5850
http://hardocp.com/article/2010/08/04/geforce_gtx_460_1gb_sli_vs_radeon_hd_5850_cfx

SLI GTX 460 1GB vs CrossFireX HD 5870
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/08/09/geforce_gtx_460_1gb_sli_vs_radeon_hd_5870_cfx/
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14900 Posts
August 17 2010 14:33 GMT
#927
jesus that's pretty sick
crazy how fast 1 good gpu can turn the tables on the status of the market. I wonder how much ground nvidia regains because of this one card
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
August 17 2010 15:41 GMT
#928
Nvidia regains because of drivers :>

All of the fermis scale insanely well in SLI while ATI Crossfire has always been a random luck type of thing.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 17 2010 21:57 GMT
#929
Well in this community the GTX 460 is great because it performs like a 5850 in sc2 but cost like a 5830, ati needs to optimize their drivers for sc2
buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
August 17 2010 22:32 GMT
#930
On August 18 2010 06:57 semantics wrote:
Well in this community the GTX 460 is great because it performs like a 5850 in sc2 but cost like a 5830, ati needs to optimize their drivers for sc2


Not just sc2, games in general and most of all, crossfire.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 22:36:27
August 17 2010 22:35 GMT
#931
Naw in other games at stock clocks the 460 is much further from 5850 and 470 then fanboys would lead you to believe

In sc2 the 460 actually preforms similar and some what better then a 5850 it's quite dramatic difference really illustrating how bad ati drivers are for sc2 currently. Oced a 460 for sure outperforms a 5850 in sc2
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
August 17 2010 23:21 GMT
#932
Considering the price of the GTX 470 it's also a decent buy at the moment. At worst it performs at the HD 5850 level, at best it performs at the HD 5870 level or a bit better.

GTX 460 is a powerful card because of how powerful Nvidia drivers are. Catalyst has been gaining ground, but it's still nowhere near the power of Nvidia's drivers in terms of game performance and multi-gpu configurations.

And when ATI says optimize I immediately think of them sacrificing visual quality for higher performance -_-
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 18 2010 00:16 GMT
#933
I don't ever bother installing CCC on ATI desktops if people want to use it for games only causes problems and degrades quality for a few fps lol caytalist AI is just shortcuts for fps.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 01:33:21
August 18 2010 01:30 GMT
#934
EDIT: TITLE: Budget Gaming Headset and USB Memory Stick

Hi again all.

I am looking for a headset and usb drive to supplement my new computer build. Nothing too fancy, just decent quality for decent price that gets the job done. So far the reviews have been looking good for these items:

Creative Labs Fatal1ty Gaming Headset - $39
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=16_223&item_id=016237

Patriot Xporter XT Boost 8 Gb USB2.0 Drive - $23
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_180_632&item_id=016200

What do you guys think?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 18 2010 01:49 GMT
#935
Personally i prefer
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_180&item_id=032812
Patriot Xporter XT Rage 8 GB

It's the newer one that address the issue of people always loosing the cap for the original xporter but comes with the issue that they don't give you a lanyard anymore lol.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
August 18 2010 01:51 GMT
#936
I have that Patriot XPorter and I don't like it because a. the Cap and b. it's really fat. It easily takes up 2 USB slots :/

as far as gaming headsets go, if you're only going to game I don't see why you aren't getting a cheaper one.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 18 2010 02:00 GMT
#937
Yeah it is fat.

And the cap sucks it's why i recommended the rage which is capless trendy but it's still fat 11mm i believe
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 18 2010 09:41 GMT
#938
Bought a Hyper 212 from Fry's for $30 as it was in stock for once. I have to take the whole mobo out? T_T I'll do this tomorrow. How is Cooler master's paste anyway? I can settle with it for now especially if it's at least an improvement from a stock AMD cooler paste, but I might pick up IC Diamond 7 (1.5g) or OCZ Freeze Extreme (3g) for around $7 either one. Also, since heat rises up, I think I'm going to mount the heatsink so the fan blows air upwards, if the space in my case permits; is that a good idea?
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
August 18 2010 09:52 GMT
#939
God, it was in stock at fry's? I tried looking everywhere for it and they all said 1-3 months wait. I finally cracked and bought it at amazon.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 10:09:26
August 18 2010 10:05 GMT
#940
On August 18 2010 18:41 R04R wrote:
Bought a Hyper 212 from Fry's for $30 as it was in stock for once. I have to take the whole mobo out? T_T I'll do this tomorrow. How is Cooler master's paste anyway? I can settle with it for now especially if it's at least an improvement from a stock AMD cooler paste, but I might pick up IC Diamond 7 (1.5g) or OCZ Freeze Extreme (3g) for around $7 either one. Also, since heat rises up, I think I'm going to mount the heatsink so the fan blows air upwards, if the space in my case permits; is that a good idea?

It's fine to point it up as long as your case has a vent up there else more ppl have it blowing back out to the fan that exhaust for the case, which also will usually cool where the vrm heatsink will be and most of the chokes.

Both IC Diamond 7 and OCZ Extreme Freeze are good products you wouldn't be sad with either one. The paste from CM should be decient ionno what comes with the hyper 212+ but last time i checked their good stuff is as good if not better as MX-2/TX-2 which means you'll maybe get only a few more C(1-3c) in temp drop going IC Diamond 7 which frankly not so much worth it unless you're pushing your cpu hard.
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