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Pure.Calm

United Kingdom196 Posts

August 13 2010 14:14 GMT

#781

Hey guys im in the middle of my first build. i have an asus M4785TD-V EVO and a sapphire ATI radeon hd5770. I am now about to install the GPU but the manual says i have to disable the onboard graphics card first.

Is there anyway to circumvent this or will i have to build the rest, then disconnect everything and take the motherboard off, connect the hd5770 then reconnect everything then install its drivers?
I was thinking i could just connect it now then disable the onboard graphics during bios, would this work?

A speedy response would be appreciated!

djcube

United States985 Posts

August 13 2010 14:17 GMT

#782

On August 13 2010 19:41 4kmonk wrote:
To unSpeake and anyone else interested in building a computer:

1. Building a computer yourself isn't necessarily cheaper. If you buy random parts all at the same time when stuff is on sale, you'll probably be better off buying a dell or something that's on sale.

Some good advice, but dell and the like usually don't put in quality parts that you'd be getting if you built your own pc.

tofucake

Hyrule19224 Posts

August 13 2010 15:34 GMT

#783

You disable the integrated graphics in BIOS. There's no need to remove your motherboard.

KOFgokuon

United States14912 Posts

August 13 2010 15:40 GMT

#784

On August 13 2010 22:52 Morale wrote:
Getting my self some new parts for my comp. Only thing im keeping is pretty much my 750W corsair PSU and my Nvidia GTX 285. New parts are:
Asus P6T SE X58 GbLan SATA2 Raid S1366
Intel Core i7 Quad 930 2.80GHz 8MB Socket 1366
Corsair XMS3 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz PC12800 240-Pin Original Kit
Western Digital Velociraptor 300GB 10.000rpm 16MB SATA II

Any thought on how these parts will work together? Possible tweaks?

Velociprator's really don't give that much better performance, either go ssd or just get a normal 1gb hd (spinpoints are pretty popular right now).

if you aren't gonna SLI at any point / don't need the hyper threading, you're better off saving money and going with the i5-760 / 1156 socket. Your ram will be cheaper, motherboard cheaper, and you won't lose much performance from the cpu with typical usage (assuming you just game, watch movies / videos, music, browse etc).

but that's up to you

mahnini

United States6862 Posts

August 13 2010 16:17 GMT

#785

On August 13 2010 20:05 4kmonk wrote:
Most cheaper computers you'll find will meet all the specifications except graphics card. Those computers are targeted towards normal people who will only use computers for word processing and surfing the web, not intended for 3d gaming.

yep. this and generally you have no idea the quality of the parts you're getting. $400 for an athlon x2 sounds pretty decent until you realize the motherboard and power supply are probably extremely terrible and you'd probably have to replace the power supply to get any kind of decent video card.

Morale

Sweden1010 Posts

August 13 2010 16:30 GMT

#786

Thx for response KOFgokoun, but i mean if im prepared to cash out a little extra, its a good build?

KOFgokuon

United States14912 Posts

August 13 2010 16:54 GMT

#787

On August 14 2010 01:30 Morale wrote:
Thx for response KOFgokoun, but i mean if im prepared to cash out a little extra, its a good build?

I'd rather get the i5/SSD combo than the velociprator/i7 combo

Fiendish

United States210 Posts

August 13 2010 17:46 GMT

#788

Thanks you guys so much,
One more question,
Does this looks like a reasonable monitor for the setup that RO4R mentioned a page ago?
Compatible?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824114002

tofucake

Hyrule19224 Posts

August 13 2010 17:52 GMT

#789

It's compatible, but meh. I don't really like anything except LG, Samsung, or NEC for monitors. They are all more expensive, but the quality difference is astounding.

a176

Canada6688 Posts

August 13 2010 18:27 GMT

#790

i dont think the velociprator is worth it, only barely faster than the caviar blacks yet 2-3x the price.

Loser777

1931 Posts

August 13 2010 18:31 GMT

#791

I've yet to understand why people insist on buying "the fastest" or solid-state hard drives. Seriously guys, just leave your computers in Sleep Mode. Instead of consuming 0.5W when turned off your computers will consume .75W (It would take decades for the extra cost to amount to the premium you paid for the hard drive). You'll stat up faster than if you had cold-booted from a velociraptor or other solid-state drive...

mav451

United States1596 Posts

August 13 2010 18:42 GMT

#792

SSDs vastly improve game-loading time and OS responsiveness. The exponentially lower random access time cannot be matched by a mechanical drive. The biggest problem, albeit for all, is the higher cost. If you can afford it, it is the most tangible difference to a system (apart from display and input devices - mouse/KB).

http://techreport.com/articles.x/19330/6
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19049/6

But seriously, keep poo-pooing new technology.

LimeNade

United States2125 Posts

August 13 2010 19:29 GMT

#793

Hey guys was wondering if you could help me with my comp im building a computer and here are the specs,
Intel Core i7 870 Processor Quad Core 2.93 GHz / 8 mb L3 cache
Liquid CPU Cooling [Socket - 1156]
4GB DDR3 - 1600 Memory Module
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB
Motherboard - MSI P55M SD-40 / includes Intel P55 Chipset, Dual-Channel DDR3, S-ATA RAID, USB 2.0, 8-ch HD Audio, Gb LAN, 2x PCI-E 2.0 x16, and CrossFireX supported.
600 Watt Power Supply - SLI Ready
500 GB Hard Drive
24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive
3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
17" Standard LCD 1280x1024 ASUS VB171D
ASUS USB-N13 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 300Mbps Wireless USB Adapter

please please please help me if you can if this seems like a good deal for roughly about 960 dollars is what they are charging me

KOFgokuon

United States14912 Posts

August 13 2010 20:07 GMT

#794

that's a pretty small monitor, but that price actually seems fair
you'll always see a premium in the price because it's a pre-built computer

what's the price difference between that and an i7-860? You're probably gonna overclock, so there's no real point to getting the 870 instead

mav451

United States1596 Posts

August 13 2010 20:21 GMT

#795

I would recommend an i5 750 actually. If you don't need the HT, no reason to add an additional $90 if you have no apps that take advantage of it. Use that $90 to get a better GPU or monitor. Actually monitor first. You use your monitor everyday (gaming or not). A bigger screen makes a huge difference in your experience.

I spent $650 on my Dell 2405 back in 2005. I would say it remains one of best investments, since I jumped from a 17" to a 24". I would say it's more important than anything else, b/c if it sucks or is too small, everything else ceases to matter. Let us know how much the monitor sizes will impact cost.

*or just post the link to these pre-builts.

GeneralStan

United States4789 Posts

August 13 2010 21:50 GMT

#796

II just ordered my new computer

AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX440WFGIBOX
ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD
Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2/2GR
Western Digital AV-GP WD10EVDS 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal AV Hard Drive -Bare Drive
ASUS ENGT240/DI/512MD5/A GeForce GT 240 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Rosewill R519-BK Black Computer Case 500W Power Supply

Grand total: $407.71 shipped. I'm looking around seeing other deals I could have taken advantage of, and second guessing myself, but I'm having trouble seeing how much more computer I could get for $400ish

Now I need a monitor. Since I'm only on a GT240, resolution shouldn't be super high, and I'm not looking to spend to much. Any suggestions?

mav451

United States1596 Posts

August 13 2010 22:05 GMT

#797

I hope you aren't using that Green drive as a boot drive. I suppose if it's already ordered, then it's too late to change out. Oh well.

GeneralStan

United States4789 Posts

August 13 2010 22:15 GMT

#798

What is wrong with using it as a boot drive?

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

August 13 2010 22:20 GMT

#799

It's a low-power, low-cost drive that's relatively slow in terms of mechanical spin speed (5400 rpm vs. the usual 7200 rpm) and actual data access and read/write speed. I don't think the performance is worse than most laptop drives though, so it's not like a total disaster or a huge problem really--just not the ideal scenario.

GeneralStan

United States4789 Posts

August 13 2010 22:27 GMT

#800

Oh son of a bitch. I was looking for a 7200 RPM drive, honestly :| I didn't realize that drive was not (no mention of its RPM on the newegg page.) I'm going to RMA it and get pick up the 1 TB7200 RPM Caviar Black for the same price