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SONE
Canada839 Posts
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Foooky
Australia205 Posts
I will be going to the computer store tomorrow after I play sc2 for 1-3 hours and hopefully nothing wrong happens within this time. What I would really like to know is: I have a GA-P35-DS3L S-series Ultra durable 2 motherboard by gigabyte - does this impose any restrictions on what PSU I can get? And what are the exact risks of running my PSU at full capacity in the short term - or are the risks borne in the long term? Add: Another question - I looked up installing a PSU and it seems to have alot of plugs which are things I could see myself messing up. Is it as difficult as it looks and is it worth getting somebody else to install it for me for 20 dollars? | ||
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1312020
United States28 Posts
Also does the dual channel in a triple channel mobo hold true for all mobos? As in, could I stick 4 gigs of dual channel DDR3 RAM in this mobo? | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
Yes you can stick with just 2x2 for dual channel until you get another stick - there shouldn't really be any performance loss. To add insult to injury, I like how the Rosewill includes "40degrees C" in the product line. If a product has to blatantly advertise that it is rated for 40C operation, it is bound to raise suspicion, in a bad way. You don't see Corsair or Seasonic doing that do you? | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
$70 with $10 MIR = $60 http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-13-130-264-_-08062010 Until 1PM PST. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On August 06 2010 21:21 haduken wrote: I have the same upgrade and all I did was reformat the hard drive and then proceed to installation. I had the Vista Ultimate before that, then I used the same disk and installed on a brand new SSD. So your previous version of windows is not important. However, your key is tied to one computer FYI. Thanks! Renewed my hopes. :D | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
On August 06 2010 22:43 R04R wrote: @ Pure.Calm This is something I wrote awhile ago when I was talking about how Phenom II x2 555 BE dual-core processors could be unlocked to quad-core processors. The Athlon II x3 435 follows a similar manufacturing process. The chance of unlocking the cores are entirely how the chip has been manufactured. The 555 BEs originally started as 955s, but if the 955s had faulty cores they would be turned into 555s to make up the loss. However, if that was the only way 555s were manufactured there obviously wouldn't be enough 555s in the market. There are also some 955s that are perfectly fine but are turned into 555s. That's a risk you take when you attempt to unlock a 555. AMD doesn't manufacture the 555 chip because that would require a completely different assembly line, so they just disable cores on the 955. This is wrong. They do not disable perfectly fine AMD Phenom II X4 955s. If you are able to unlock a core and have it be stable, the core was disabled for a different reason. Silicon die production isn't perfect so some cores end up leaking more power than AMD thinks is reasonable. Those cores are then disabled and marketed as lower core CPUs. | ||
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1312020
United States28 Posts
Yeah, the thing I'm looking to do most is avoid skimping on the PSU, which is why I ask these questions. I'd seen Rosewill recommended before, but I was wary of it because it's not one of the big name brands. I don't have the money for a second GPU yet anyways, so I'll just get a nice reputable 650W one and when I eventually have the money for a second 470, I'll grab a nice fat 950/1000W Corsair or something. Thanks for the fast response. | ||
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
CPU: Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz GPU: GeForce GTX 460 1GB DDR5 256-bit RAM: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz And any advice on the parts I have if they are good or not | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On August 07 2010 02:18 PaD wrote: Can someone reccomend me a good motherboard and power supplie from http://www.newegg.com/ for a gaming computer with CPU: Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz GPU: GeForce GTX 460 1GB DDR5 256-bit RAM: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz And any advice on the parts I have if they are good or not I have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005 and I really think it's nice. Not even that expensive  | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
Solid motherboard with usb 3.0 and sata 3.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412 as for psu, some people swear by corsair/seasonic, I've had no problems using ocz modxstream 600 W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017&cm_re=ocz_modxstream-_-17-341-017-_-Product 500 W, but after shipping/rebate it's almost the same price as the 600 W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016&cm_re=ocz_modxstream-_-17-341-016-_-Product | ||
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Echo515
Canada105 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146778 Do you guys think that I should get it and what settings do you think it would play SC2 on? | ||
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FragKrag
United States11567 Posts
On August 07 2010 02:18 1312020 wrote: @Mav451 Yeah, the thing I'm looking to do most is avoid skimping on the PSU, which is why I ask these questions. I'd seen Rosewill recommended before, but I was wary of it because it's not one of the big name brands. I don't have the money for a second GPU yet anyways, so I'll just get a nice reputable 650W one and when I eventually have the money for a second 470, I'll grab a nice fat 950/1000W Corsair or something. Thanks for the fast response. Rosewill is Newegg's in house brand (along with ABS I think). So there might be a bit of trouble with them. Hardwaresecrets has reviewed a few of them and they didn't seem to be that bad. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=60 That said, Jonny reviewed the 750/850 units, so don't know what the 950 uses internally. Also I shouldn't put much credit on NE reviews, but anything more than 5% in the 1-star is a cause for concern regardless. The difference between the double and single fan configs are also concerning. It's either 24%/16% vs. 24%/18%. Still very high in the amount of 1-stars  I'm still not a believer...maybe next time? | ||
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Pure.Calm
United Kingdom196 Posts
On August 07 2010 02:17 FragKrag wrote: This is wrong. They do not disable perfectly fine AMD Phenom II X4 955s. If you are able to unlock a core and have it be stable, the core was disabled for a different reason. Silicon die production isn't perfect so some cores end up leaking more power than AMD thinks is reasonable. Those cores are then disabled and marketed as lower core CPUs. Hey, im really not surehow these things work so im wondering if you could tell me if trying to get the 4th to work could be damaging to it? Also to everyone else does the build i posted above look ok? Im looking for overall comments but i am a little more concerned about the PSU given previous comments so if anyone could calm my worries or have any suggestions id appreciate it. Edit: Adding build as it got left on the last page. + Show Spoiler + Athlon II x3 435 2.9ghz processor http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176043 £60 Asus M4A785TD-V EVO 785G Socket Motherboard http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169532 £69 MSI HD 5770 1gb GDDR5 Graphics Card http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189239 £120 Coolermaster Elite 330 Case with 460w eXtreme Power PSU http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135101 £58 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1tb 32mb Cache 7200rpm Hard Drive http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804 £48 Corsair 2x2gb DDR3 1333Mhz Cas 9 1.5v http://www.ebuyer.com/product/178943 £79 Cart total inc vat: £432.93 This should be getting you Ultra EZ at 1024x768. The processor I picked has a chance of "unlocking" its potential to 4 cores and/or a Phenom II processor with 6mb L3 cache. This is chance though, it's not guaranteed. If this does happen though, you profit about £55 :X Thanks Edit2: Also wandering about the motherboard, it says it has an integrated graphics card in the comments, but im also buying a hd5770, will i have to remove the inbuilt one? And will the HD5770 GPU i am buying be integrated or dedicated? I dont know what this means but i have heard dedicated is better? | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
dedicated cards have their own ram, integrated cards have to share ram with the rest of the comptuer | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Base: Antec Mini P180 mATX Black Aluminum Case Corsair TX650W 2x Scythe Slip Stream Kaze Jyuni 120MM Fan 1200RPM 68.5CFM 24DBA EVGA GeForce GTX 460 Noctua NH-U12P SE2 w/ 2xNH-P12 120MM Fans Intel i7 Build: EVGA X58 Micro mATX LGA1366 Intel Core i7 930 [triple channel memory] Intel i5 Build: GIGABYTE GA-H55M-USB3 Intel Core i5 750 [dual channel memory] AMD Phenom X4 Build: ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO AMD Phenom II X4 965 [dual channel memory] AMD Phenom X6/Thuban Build: I don't think so, Tim. Pricey build because of pricey case! But worth it, imo, just one of the best designed cases ever made. Unless there's something similar and cheaper that I haven't read about yet | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208021&cm_re=xion_oynx-_-11-208-021-_-Product I tried my best to add more fans, I managed to stuck 2 extra 40mm in that thing... overall the cooling is decent. I dont think I have ever gone over 60-65C on my PC, even during the summer under full-load. While idle my E6420 is around 40C and my 4770 @ 55C(During cooler seasons it the CPU goes as low as 25C and the GPU hovers around 40C.. Forgot which AM3 MOBO I was gonna purchase, I'll worry about that when the time comes Ive really only decided on the Phenom II x4 955. And maybe 4GB of Ripjaws. My PSU is a EarthWatts 650W, I regret not getting the modular Seasonic. | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
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