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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 17 2011 02:21 GMT
#5521
"Yeah, integrated graphics, they just suck. However, I'm getting utterly lost on how you've tried some of the things that have been suggested at this point, some things are contradictory."

Could you expand on this?

"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 02:23:18
May 17 2011 02:21 GMT
#5522
On May 17 2011 11:20 SoKHo wrote:
physically doesn't fit. I suppose I can detach the motherboard from the old pc and reattach it to my new case, but that would be soo much work T.T


Well, if your willingness to test things runs out faster than your budget, just try the new graphics card idea. If that fixes it, return the graphics card. If it doesn't, return the motherboard. If that fails, start threatening the PC with a fire axe.

No, I understand you now, they only seemed contradictory because I was assuming you had tried to put your old graphics card in your new computer, and not vice versa.
Az0r_au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia385 Posts
May 17 2011 02:21 GMT
#5523
On May 17 2011 11:19 JingleHell wrote:
Well, if he did it backward to begin with, that wouldn't help much. And if by "doesn't fit" he's talking about incompatible slots, it wouldn't help diagnose where the problem is actually occurring anyway, because it wouldn't eliminate a variable. If he means physically doesn't fit, there's workarounds.

Yeah I thought he ment physically doesn't fit in his old pc's case.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 17 2011 02:24 GMT
#5524
this is making me cry TT I wanted to finally play sc2 tonight.
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 17 2011 02:26 GMT
#5525
Welcome to the "fun" part of building your own. Learning how to troubleshoot your own. Just don't make the mistake of telling your friends about this experience, or every time someone's computer does something funny, they'll expect you to be free tech support, and nobody you actually know in real life ever has tech support needs when you're bored and checking this forum to see if there's something interesting to help someone with.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 17 2011 02:30 GMT
#5526
On May 17 2011 11:24 SoKHo wrote:
this is making me cry TT I wanted to finally play sc2 tonight.


i was looking through these posts. i don't think i saw this answered.

remove video card, plug monitor into motherboard, boot up PC

do you get picture?
starleague forever
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 17 2011 02:32 GMT
#5527
Yeah, I'm starting to have regrets :/ It took me ~4 hours to build since I read the manual so I wouldn't F up, but ~4 hours trying to trouble shoot, replugging in stuff, etc.. Pretty much wasted my day :/
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 17 2011 02:32 GMT
#5528
On May 17 2011 11:30 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 11:24 SoKHo wrote:
this is making me cry TT I wanted to finally play sc2 tonight.


i was looking through these posts. i don't think i saw this answered.

remove video card, plug monitor into motherboard, boot up PC

do you get picture?


Jesus, how did I not think of that... talk about missing the forest for the trees if it works...

Although if it does have picture then, we'll be back where we are now.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 02:33:44
May 17 2011 02:32 GMT
#5529
also, refer to page 43 of your manual on how to change "Primary Graphics Adapter", should be set to PCI-Express
starleague forever
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 17 2011 02:37 GMT
#5530
No, no picture, same "no input signal"

Why do I need to see page 43 again?
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 17 2011 02:39 GMT
#5531
Product Announcement:

Corsair Force Series 3

550MB/s read speeds, 520MB/s write, 85,000 iops (!)

... and the 120gb has MSRP of $220, which is 80 bucks clear of the Vertex 3. Great value.

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starleague forever
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 17 2011 02:45 GMT
#5532
On May 17 2011 11:37 SoKHo wrote:
No, no picture, same "no input signal"

Why do I need to see page 43 again?


The motherboard has a setting for which device to send video out to (add-in card or on-board). Sometimes you need to specify this to get the signal to the right output.

So, no video from motherboard?

Last thing I will recommend is CMOS clear. See page 24 on how to do this.

+ Show Spoiler +
starleague forever
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
May 17 2011 02:48 GMT
#5533
good read, lots of great info thnx
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
FearTheReaperMan
Profile Joined May 2011
154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 03:07:05
May 17 2011 02:52 GMT
#5534
Ok so last night I tried to order my comp off http://www.ncixus.com/ and you can only use an international credit card or one that is issued from canada on their website... So I need to I need to buy one from a different site.(Pref. from one that will build it for you.) I have another build below-- but from newegg you have to build it yourself.(lmk if I am wrong)

Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

GSkill 2x2GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

ASUS Radeon HD6850 DirectCU @ $160 ($140 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121419
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125367

Power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

DVD Drive @ $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Coolermaster Elite 330 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986





Thanks guys.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#5535
Hey a176,

Yeah, no picture when I connect it directlly to the motherboard

I did a CMOS clear by plugging out the battery and reinserting it. It didn't work :/
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 17 2011 02:53 GMT
#5536
On May 17 2011 10:23 xdthreat wrote:
So it turns out I am having little luck with streaming with my e8400 based system, and as such its time to upgrade! + Show Spoiler +


I am looking for some help in finalizing a i5-2500k build.

Budget : ~1,000. Would like to spend less if possible, I do need an OS.

Resolution: 1900x1080. May possibly go dual monitor in the future.

Usage: gaming + streaming. Mostly SC2, and planning for D3. I do not play FPS. (Ok, maybe CS:S once in a while)

Upgrade cycle: I would like to get 4 years out of this computer, possibly upgrading the gpu/cpu in a couple years. I have gotten a solid 3 years so far from my wolfsdale, and only my desire to stream is causing me to build a new rig.

Plan to order in the next few days.

I plan on overclocking to 4.5k-ish.

I do not plan on SLI/XF unless it becomes a leader in price/performance at the midrange.

I must order everything from newegg or amazon.

I must have a filled a cart on newegg 10 times so far. I have a hard time not choosing the +$50 options on everything, and talking to some of my friends who like to buy the most expensive of everything while choosing components doesn't help.

I have been looking at getting a HAF 932 case, but I'm hoping its smaller and cheaper friends are just as good? I will basically never be transporting this computer as I have a gaming laptop so I wouldn't mind a sweet ass but heavy case that i could use for a decade. But maybe its too big and not needed?

I currently use a hd4850 that meets my needs with sc2, of course I will want a newer card for this computer. Thinking the 5850 1gb for ~160 seems too good of a deal to go with a 5950/560ti?

I have read so many varying opinions on motherboards, I don't want to spend 190$ on a asus p67 pro model but if it is more reliable for some reason....Also I may actually use an auto-tuning style feature to do my overclocking.

The z68 cache build seems cool and fun but I don't know if it will help with streaming/gaming. I suppose I would rather spend money towards peripherals than an SSD.

One last, perhaps too narrow thought: I notice the Realtek ALC892 has a worse S/N ratio than the 889 which seems to be only still found on the gigabyte boards. Last night I bought HD555 headphones on sale at amazon while researching pc stuff. Will using a ALC892 with the HD555s be (/gretorp) problematic? I currently use either USB headphones or my SPDIF out to a pretty sweet stereo for sound. Usually a combination of both. I'm assuming any p67 chip should suite my needs.

All the information and discussion in this thread has been amazingly useful, I feel like I could make a purchase already but I feel unsure about if I should/need to be spending the extra +/- $50 on each component. Thanks a ton!


Core i5-2500k and MSI P67A-G43 - $335
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.638772

Xigmatek Gaia - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

EVGA GTX 560 Ti (register for your lifetime warranty) - $233 ($213 after MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

G.Skill 2 x 2GB DDR3 - $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231394

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

LG CD/DVD burner - $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238

Corsair CX500 V2 - $55 ($35 after MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

Cooler Master HAF 912 - $60 ($50 after MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM - $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Asus Xonar DG - $34 ($24 after MIR--you can find it cheaper elsewhere IIRC)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132020

That Sapphire HD 5850 Xtreme seems to be sold out in many places. It's probably a better value if it's around $150 though, but this is not a bad deal either. If you have a HD 555, I think spending a little on a sound card may be worth it, though depending, it may be not noticeably better. Place it as far away as possible from the GPU, in the lowest PCI slot.

A larger case is really only to have more room inside to work on it (unimportant unless you tinker nonstop). You don't need extravagant cooling for a single-GPU build that will use like 250W max in a game.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 17 2011 03:19 GMT
#5537
On May 17 2011 11:53 SoKHo wrote:
Hey a176,

Yeah, no picture when I connect it directlly to the motherboard

I did a CMOS clear by plugging out the battery and reinserting it. It didn't work :/


If there's no video when you don't have the video card installed, the board is basically useless. Might be a bad board It can happen to the best of us.

Consider your RMA options (same product exchange or refund), and/or getting a different motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/HelpInfo/FAQDetail.aspx?Module=6&cm_sp=FAQ-_-Returns(RMA)-_-217&Menu=sn_217&Local=y
starleague forever
FearTheReaperMan
Profile Joined May 2011
154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 03:28:15
May 17 2011 03:24 GMT
#5538
Does this motherboard come with an internal internet system? Cause Im kinda confused on the details.. (I think it doe, but not sure)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236




SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 17 2011 03:27 GMT
#5539
On May 17 2011 12:19 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 11:53 SoKHo wrote:
Hey a176,

Yeah, no picture when I connect it directlly to the motherboard

I did a CMOS clear by plugging out the battery and reinserting it. It didn't work :/


If there's no video when you don't have the video card installed, the board is basically useless. Might be a bad board It can happen to the best of us.

Consider your RMA options (same product exchange or refund), and/or getting a different motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/HelpInfo/FAQDetail.aspx?Module=6&cm_sp=FAQ-_-Returns(RMA)-_-217&Menu=sn_217&Local=y


okay, ty for the help T.T

That's like another week of no sc2. fml.
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 17 2011 03:34 GMT
#5540
On May 17 2011 11:52 FearTheReaperMan wrote:
Ok so last night I tried to order my comp off http://www.ncixus.com/ and you can only use an international credit card or one that is issued from canada on their website... So I need to I need to buy one from a different site.(Pref. from one that will build it for you.) I have another build below-- but from newegg you have to build it yourself.(lmk if I am wrong).


that doesn't sound right. ive read about lots of people having no issue buying from the site. maybe give their toll free phone a call so they can help you?
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