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yaeger
Norway98 Posts
budget 1200dollars | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
You could alternatively research about those capture cards and how they work. That would make the most sense if you are not satisfied with what you have. | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
It also said that students should be able to get windows for free at a dreamspark premium university (I checked and I'm there), but apparently it takes some sort of administer given username to get it for free? I don't really know what's going on here. Any insight would be appreciated. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Yes, you need to contact whoever is responsible for MSDNAA (typically the IT department) to get your login information. | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
What I know for sure is, there's no special upgrade product keys. They are all the same keys, so you can use the product key with a normal Windows disc. You could perhaps download an installation media image that's for normal Windows instead and ignore what instruction you get per e-mail when you buy that Windows 8 Pro Upgrade. | ||
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skyR
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
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Military
32 Posts
On August 06 2013 18:15 yaeger wrote: what is the best CPU and MB to get if you want to stream at 1080p and having the best experience while doing it( playing sc2 ofcourse) budget 1200dollars On August 06 2013 18:30 skyR wrote: 2x 4670k and 2x z87x-d3h If he wants to stream @ 1080p with a high BR... he should get an i7 instead of an i5. If he wants to stream @ 720p with a low ~ mid BR... he should get an i5. Since he wants his stream to be high quality (and assuming he will have a high BR) then he should be getting an i7, 2x 4770k. | ||
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Military
32 Posts
On August 06 2013 05:15 skyR wrote: $441. You can downgrade the RAM to 4gb and downgrade the GPU as well if you really wanted to. You can purchase a motherboard from Newegg for ~$50 if you want one of the lesser brands. Intel Pentium G2030 @ $60 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=87137&promoid=1062 Gigabyte B75M-D3H @ $67 (pricematch with http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70273&promoid=1062 ) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX39039 G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4gb 2133MHz @ $70 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX34251 Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $25 (pricematch with http://ncix.com/products/?sku=77540&promoid=1062 ) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45470 Radeon HD7770 @ $100 - $10 with promo code for new customers http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687 Corasir CX430 @ $44 (pricematch with http://ncix.com/products/?sku=76034&promoid=1062 ) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41857 Samsung 840 120gb @ $85 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/MappingPrice2012.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188 ) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43340 Builder series PSUs are LQ. Unless he wants his build to be destroyed... change the PSU. @ this price range, he should get an AMD APU and CF it with the 7770/7750. With an APU, that RAM would be a lot more effective and cost efficient. RAM speeds' effects on practical performance are minimal and incredibly low unless paired with an APU. SSD on an incredibly low budget... where is his main storage drive? On top of that, the 840 (non pro edition) isn't that great... By the way, usually the higher the SSD storage amount, the better the performance. i.e. 120 GB SSD speed < 256 GB SSD, in general. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
On August 06 2013 11:03 Seekerwind wrote: What is your budget? My budget is around $1000. What is your resolution? 1600x900. What are you using it for? Mostly gaming and streaming. What is your upgrade cycle? Around every 4 years I'll be upgrading. When do you plan on building it? As soon as I can. Do you plan on overclocking? I don't plan on overclocking. Do you need an Operating System? I have an OS. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I'm not sure whether or not to add a second GPI or SLI or Crossfire . Where are you buying your parts from? Canadiancomputers or newegg.ca You should purchase from memory express due to price matching, less taxes and $5 flat shipping. CPU: INTEL CORE I5-4670 @ 214 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45430#Continue (price match with http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8236904&SRCCODE=CANWSHOPBOT&cm_mmc_o=2mHCjCmtB5_BfCjCVqHCjCdwwp&cpncode=31-201045110-2) Motherboard: B85M-D3H @ 77 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46136 (price match with http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=84036&vpn=GA-B85M-D3H&manufacture=Gigabyte) RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4gb 2133MHz @ 70 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX34251 VideoCard: Powercolor Radeon HD 7970 @340+shipping (Only if you will upgrade monitor in the future) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=70111&vpn=AX7970 3GBD5-2DHV3&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1062 Storage: Samsung 840 120gb or @ 85 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/MappingPrice2012.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43340 1TB Barracuda @ 65 (if you need the space) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36523 You could also go for something like a single 250GB ssd and no harddrive if 250GB is enough for you Powersupply: Rosewill CAPSTONE-450 450W @ 64 ($10 off purchases over $50 - NEWCUSTOMERCAAUGUST) http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA Or http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=22170AC8219&vpn=ST45SF&manufacture=Silverstone Technology if you go with small case requiring sfx power supply Case: Pick your case (wise to pricematch at memory express (flat shipping) or purchase from directcanada (free shipping for over $50) as you would pay a good amount for shipping) (for cheap: Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $25 (pricematch with http://ncix.com/products/?sku=77540&promoid=1062) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45470 ~950 + tax – some MIR | ||
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Military
32 Posts
On August 06 2013 23:15 Rachnar wrote: Did you just try to correct Skyr in his kingdom? Oo Are people not allowed to correct SkyR? | ||
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Military
32 Posts
On August 06 2013 23:21 Ata wrote: You should purchase from memory express due to price matching, less taxes and $5 flat shipping. CPU: INTEL CORE I5-4670 @ 214 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45430#Continue (price match with http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8236904&SRCCODE=CANWSHOPBOT&cm_mmc_o=2mHCjCmtB5_BfCjCVqHCjCdwwp&cpncode=31-201045110-2) Motherboard: B85M-D3H @ 77 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46136 (price match with http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=84036&vpn=GA-B85M-D3H&manufacture=Gigabyte) RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4gb 2133MHz @ 70 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX34251 VideoCard: Powercolor Radeon HD 7970 @340+shipping (Only if you will upgrade monitor in the future) http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=70111&vpn=AX7970 3GBD5-2DHV3&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1062 Storage: Samsung 840 120gb or @ 85 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/MappingPrice2012.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43340 1TB Barracuda @ 65 (if you need the space) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX36523 You could also go for something like a single 250GB ssd and no harddrive if 250GB is enough for you Powersupply: Rosewill CAPSTONE-450 450W @ 64 ($10 off purchases over $50 - NEWCUSTOMERCAAUGUST) http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA Or http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=22170AC8219&vpn=ST45SF&manufacture=Silverstone Technology if you go with small case requiring sfx power supply Case: Pick your case (wise to pricematch at memory express (flat shipping) or purchase from directcanada (free shipping for over $50) as you would pay a good amount for shipping) (for cheap: Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $25 (pricematch with http://ncix.com/products/?sku=77540&promoid=1062) http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45470 ~950 + tax – some MIR Increase the power supply. The build needs about 415W to operate, and almost completely loading the PSU to its' maximum isn't the best idea. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
That build will pull roughly 250-300w in normal circumstances. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
@Rollin, you seem to have your question answered already, but yes you can get it for free if you qualify for dreamspark premium. My university only offers it to comp sci/computer engineers though as it is sent to our cse .edu address. Hopefully you qualify! But I was able to get win 8 for free Edit: you can correct him if your advice makes sense... But it's generally understood that skyr has the best advice in town :p | ||
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Military
32 Posts
On August 06 2013 23:37 Rachnar wrote: Yeah, you just clearly proved you have no idea what you are talking about. That build will pull roughly 250-300w in normal circumstances. When I had one 7970 in my build, the amount the build usually took (UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH MEANS GAMING) was above 400W. My CPU is overclocked quite a bit but definitely did not take the bulk of the usage. Also, unless his computer will either be idling away or just doing light browsing, his build will draw about 350W on average. So, unless your definition of normal circumstances is to sit there and watch your computer collect dust, it won't only be taking 250W. Most people would recommend at least double what it needs on average due to the fact that most PSUs are rated @ 50% load. However, since the PSU linked was effective rated @ >50% load... it would be okay for a slightly higher PSU (in the same family). Sure you can run that build on a 450W PSU... it will run, but when that PSU starts blowing up because it was put under constant load over prolonged periods of time, are you gonna take the fall for it? Since you won't just take my word for it, here are some TDP/Power Usage charts of the 7970. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/04/10/sapphire_hd_7970_oc_edition_video_card_review/9#.UgEOtW1aSHs http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition-review-benchmark,3232-18.html If you look closely, the minimum @ idle is 100W for just the 7970. That's 25% of the PSU alone ON IDLE. Then look at the amount of power that it draws under load. Tell me, do you think that your 300W would be enough? edit: Here are some more links; http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/06/21/amd_radeon_hd_7970_ghz_edition_video_card_review/8#.UgEQNm1aSHs http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-overclock-review,3186-11.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/6025/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition-review-catching-up-to-gtx-680/16 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_hd_7970_ghz_edition_review,8.html http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_hd_7970_review,8.html http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1668683 http://www.pcworld.com/article/258168/amd_radeon_hd_7970_ghz_edition_review.html Knock yourself out. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
360 watts at the wall, with an i7 SB-E clocked at 4.3 ghz to boot. So take away like 10% for power draw at the different spot (or add 10% to the capstone, then ignore the fact that they test with a 130w top Cpu, AND that it is being over clocked, AND remember a capstone is like 92% efficient at all load levels up to like at least 80%, and yes, it will both draw around 250-300w AND the capstone is way more than enough power. That's a 7970, not a ghz edition. Try to cite the proper card. And even the ghz edition only draws 380w in battlefield *at the wall* and your still ignoring the cpu that probably is pulling 80w more than his is. | ||
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
On August 06 2013 23:32 Military wrote: Increase the power supply. The build needs about 415W to operate, and almost completely loading the PSU to its' maximum isn't the best idea. Why are you talking out of your ass? http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/770 Idle Power Consumption Total System Power Consumption in Watts (Lower is Better) 112 Load Power Consumption - Battlefield 3 Total System Power Consumption in Watts (Lower is Better)360 Load Power Consumption - FurMark Total System Power Consumption in Watts (Lower is Better)387 25% load at idle 80% load at gaming http://www.anandtech.com/show/5698/rosewill-capstone-450w-and-650w-80plus-gold/5 Efficiency and Power Factor 230 VAC Load Efficiency PFC 5% 81.52% 0.797 10% 87.21% 0.810 20% 91.35% 0.839 50% 92.11% 0.949 80% 91.52% 0.979 100% 90.74% 0.981 110% 90.14% 0.984 | ||
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