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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On July 04 2013 15:48 asdfOu wrote: is it possible to build a computer that can play on ultra settings with a steady frame rate on a 730$ budget? (already have os, dvd and dvd drive thingy) You can actually get very, very close to what would be possible with infinite money. I assume you talk about SC2. You pretty much just have to buy the newest generation i5 CPU from Intel with the most GHz you can get. That's about $200 for the CPU, $100 board, $100 case and PSU, $70 memory, $100 SSD. You can ignore the very expensive graphics cards as something around $150 is enough. $200 + $100 + $100 + $70 + $100 + $150 = $720 That's just a very rough guess. Overclocking can be very interesting to get the most out of the CPU, keeping it competitive for a few extra years, and for SC2 in 3v3, 4v4 teams or something. I don't know how to find out beforehand, but for some people it's actually fun to experiment to get it running perfect, and for others it's annoying. You need a cooler and it adds to the price of CPU and board, perhaps about $100 increase in price overall. You can look a little through the thread what the actual prices are for a PC with i5 CPU with and without overclocking. Look for something with "Haswell" i5-4xxx. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
 . So I assume it just means the cards going to die soon.I guess its time to gut this thing and upgrade everything anyway. I have about 1k to spend. I think my hard drive and power supply should still be fine correct? So I just need to get a new motherboard, CPU, and graphic card? I don't want to buy something if I don't have too. I have a P5Q pro motherboard that as far as I can tell works fine. I also have a E8400 CPU that seems fine. Can I just get away with poping a new graphic card into this older motherboard? Oh I also have 4gb ram if that helps anything(will I need more if i upgrade?). If I do need too get a new motherboard, CPU, and graphic card. What should I get? I dont overclock or anything fancy. I just want to be able to play all the new games without problems for the next few years. My screen resolution is 1680x1050 btw. Sorry for this post being kind of all over the place lol, | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 04 2013 21:11 InToTheWannaB wrote: Hey guy, Thx for any help in advance. Well my computer is about 4-5 years old and i think my graphic card is dying. My screen keeps freezing and turning black when I play games. Then it will go back to normal and a tool tip will pop up saying "display drivers have stopped working and have recovered." So I tryed cleaning everything to make sure its not over heating, and I have formatted my hard drive and reinstalled everything to make sure it was not some driver conflict. Its still doing it however . So I assume it just means the cards going to die soon.I guess its time to gut this thing and upgrade everything anyway. I have about 1k to spend. I think my hard drive and power supply should still be fine correct? So I just need to get a new motherboard, CPU, and graphic card? I don't want to buy something if I don't have too. I have a P5Q pro motherboard that as far as I can tell works fine. I also have a E8400 CPU that seems fine. Can I just get away with poping a new graphic card into this older motherboard? Oh I also have 4gb ram if that helps anything(will I need more if i upgrade?). If I do need too get a new motherboard, CPU, and graphic card. What should I get? I dont overclock or anything fancy. I just want to be able to play all the new games without problems for the next few years. My screen resolution is 1680x1050 btw. Sorry for this post being kind of all over the place lol, You have two options really. Cheap option; get a new graphics card and put it into your current computer. You can spend big on it to use it in a future computer or get a real cheap one that suits your current computer. Or replace everything but the hard disk (use as storage, ssd as main drive), PSU (if its ok) and case (if you like it). This will take up most of your budget, but then you get a new shiny computer. Im pretty sure p5q only take ddr2 ram so you cant use that in a new build, but double check your ram is ddr2 just look on the ram sticks label. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 04 2013 21:27 InToTheWannaB wrote: Well I want too play rome total war 2 when it comes out and I know my current computer can like just meet the min specs. So I guess Im replacing everything . Any suggestions on what I should be getting?Im pumped for Rome 2, hoping my rig will manage to run it without the brutally long loading times in most total war games. Heres a vague guide, I dunno US prices or where you should buy from but these are roughly the parts you want. CPU- i5 4670 Mobo- B85 or H87 even Z87 if its cheap. GPU- GTX 760, you can go up to 770 if you want more GPU power, not sure how much Rome is going to need. Can downgrade as well probably to 670 RAM- 2x4g DDR3 1600mhz, cheapest you can find, going higher than 1600mhz is good if its cheap SSD- Samsung 840, probably 256g if you want to fit Rome on. Use your old hdd for storage, movies etc. Optionally you can get a new case, just get one you like the look of, having USB3 at the front is pretty useful. Needs to be same size or bigger than mobo, ATX, mATX etc. Can get a ~500w PSU if you feel yours needs replacing, but ask here what to get. Also try what Ropid brings up. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 04 2013 21:44 Ropid wrote: you meant to type Z87 instead of Z77 Woops, good pickup. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
On July 04 2013 21:41 Blaec wrote: Im pumped for Rome 2, hoping my rig will manage to run it without the brutally long loading times in most total war games. Heres a vague guide, I dunno US prices or where you should buy from but these are roughly the parts you want. CPU- i5 4670 Mobo- B85 or H87 even Z87 if its cheap. GPU- GTX 760, you can go up to 770 if you want more GPU power, not sure how much Rome is going to need. Can downgrade as well probably to 670 RAM- 2x4g DDR3 1600mhz, cheapest you can find, going higher than 1600mhz is good if its cheap SSD- Samsung 840, probably 256g if you want to fit Rome on. Use your old hdd for storage, movies etc. Optionally you can get a new case, just get one you like the look of, having USB3 at the front is pretty useful. Needs to be same size or bigger than mobo, ATX, mATX etc. Can get a ~500w PSU if you feel yours needs replacing, but ask here what to get. Also try what Ropid brings up. ok thx alot | ||
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=17082014 What is your budget? As long as its not really reaching over a thousand, he only wants to splurge on gpu and cpu, i suggested a ivy bridge, Also splurging extra for only a little bit of performance boost is something he doesn't have the money for... What is your resolution? Lol i don't even know What are you using it for? Watching blu ray movies, hooking up his pc to his 42 inch tv for movies and diablo 3, maybe skyrim What is your upgrade cycle? 3 years. When do you plan on building it? Prolly in a span of now to maybe 6 months later for the more expensive pc parts Do you plan on overclocking? Nope he wants a pc that will last him a lot longer Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? It all depends on if it isn't too much and if a single gpu doesnt make a big ass resolution look terrible! Where are you buying your parts from? The chicago area, i don't really have access to microcenter and english sites are preferable. Also he noted he wanted a single 8 gig ram stick so he can stick another one in later on for increased performance when extra ram becomes more standard. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Do you plan on overclocking? Nope he wants a pc that will last him a lot longer A moderate overclock would be expected to run for many years under constant full load. A regular or even heavy user doesn't really come remotely close to that level of stress on cpu, 3.5ghz is a rather arbitrary point, if Intel sold the CPU's at 4.2ghz, nobody would think twice about running them at 4.2ghz, for example. Also he noted he wanted a single 8 gig ram stick so he can stick another one in later on for increased performance when extra ram becomes more standard. You need two sticks for dual channel, mobo's have 4 slots by standard Next CPU architecture release has DDR4 RAM, more than 8gb RAM won't be at all standard until quite a few years after that, at least | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On July 05 2013 03:28 FlyingToilet wrote:+ Show Spoiler + This is currently the list of specs my father is looking at to buy, hes already chosen his case, considering it isn't a big part of building a pc, im trying to convince him to go ahead and spend extra in getting an intel ivy bridge, or maybe haswell, i most likely won't be overclocking this pc so hes kinda looking for like a mobo right under 100. But anyways here is his wishlist https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=17082014 What is your budget? As long as its not really reaching over a thousand, he only wants to splurge on gpu and cpu, i suggested a ivy bridge, Also splurging extra for only a little bit of performance boost is something he doesn't have the money for... What is your resolution? Lol i don't even know What are you using it for? Watching blu ray movies, hooking up his pc to his 42 inch tv for movies and diablo 3, maybe skyrim What is your upgrade cycle? 3 years. When do you plan on building it? Prolly in a span of now to maybe 6 months later for the more expensive pc parts Do you plan on overclocking? Nope he wants a pc that will last him a lot longer Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? It all depends on if it isn't too much and if a single gpu doesnt make a big ass resolution look terrible! Where are you buying your parts from? The chicago area, i don't really have access to microcenter and english sites are preferable. Also he noted he wanted a single 8 gig ram stick so he can stick another one in later on for increased performance when extra ram becomes more standard. Private wishlists can't be seen. http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17082014 This list is pretty bad overall, wasting money in most categories. A 650w power supply is not necessary and even if it was, the Fractal Design unit is sort of meh... A Rosewill Capstone 450 is more than sufficient: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 There is no point in getting Radeon 7950's anymore as a GTX 760 is better in both price and performance: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130933 There is no point in using a single 8gb stick just so you can upgrade to more later as there are four DIMM slots on most motherboards. Even if you got 2x4gb, you could add another 2x4gb later if really need be. But for people who just watch television and play games, they will never need more than 2x4gb DDR3 unless you multi-box or use it as a RAMdisk. You also don't have memory listed. FM2 motherboards are for A series processors. FX processors are not compatible with FM2 boards, FX needs AM3+ boards. And I would suggest a core i3 over AMD for a media PC, as well as non-overclocking configurations as the i3 will be better. That case looks horrendous btw. | ||
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
On July 05 2013 04:03 skyR wrote: Private wishlists can't be seen. http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=17082014 This list is pretty bad overall, wasting money in most categories. A 650w power supply is not necessary and even if it was, the Fractal Design unit is sort of meh... A Rosewill Capstone 450 is more than sufficient: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 There is no point in getting Radeon 7950's anymore as a GTX 760 is better in both price and performance: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130933 There is no point in using a single 8gb stick just so you can upgrade to more later as there are four DIMM slots on most motherboards. Even if you got 2x4gb, you could add another 2x4gb later if really need be. But for people who just watch television and play games, they will never need more than 2x4gb DDR3 unless you multi-box or use it as a RAMdisk. You also don't have memory listed. FM2 motherboards are for A series processors. FX processors are not compatible with FM2 boards, FX needs AM3+ boards. And I would suggest a core i3 over AMD for a media PC, as well as non-overclocking configurations as the i3 will be better. That case looks horrendous btw. Ya i know its looks horrid, he wanted it though so i gotta work with it, i updated it to an intel i3 ivy, 70 dollar asus board for the 4 slot ram, and now all i want to know is if its worth getting a hyper 212 cpu cooler, or just slapping the generic intel one it comes with on? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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skyR
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citi.zen
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+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? ~USD 650 (excluding parts already owned – see below) What is your resolution? 1280x1024 What are you using it for? Mixed use – some streaming, games (world of tanks, sc2, total war series). What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4 years. When do you plan on building it? Next 2 weeks. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? Yes. Will get either Win 7 home premium 64 or Win 8 system builder 64. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? Preferably Amazon. I have Prime, and also need to use a few hundred dollars I have in e-gift cards. Other considerations: Would like this system to run fairly quietly. Parts already owned: DVD drive (from current computer) 750gb HD (from current computer) Samsung MZ-7TD250BW 840 Series Solid State Drive (SSD) 250 GB Sata 2.5-Inch (new) Cooler Master Seidon 120M Liquid CPU Water Cooling System with Copper Heatsink and 120mm Radiator - 1 Fan (new) Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt ATX/EPS 80 PLUS (CX600) (new) Tentative build (nothing set in stone here): MSI Computer Corp. DDR3 1600 Intel LGA 1155 Motherboards (Z77A-G43) - $104 Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K - $220 Windows (undecided between 7 or 8) - $90 Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z No PS Mid Tower Gaming Case (Black) – $36 Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10) - $130 Arctic Silver 5 Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound Paste 3.5g - $8 Video card: no idea, please advise. Total: 590 + cost of video card. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On July 05 2013 06:08 citi.zen wrote:Hi guys. I've had a few bad experiences with a 2 year old XPS and decided to build my next system. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thank you! + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? ~USD 650 (excluding parts already owned – see below) What is your resolution? 1280x1024 What are you using it for? Mixed use – some streaming, games (world of tanks, sc2, total war series). What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4 years. When do you plan on building it? Next 2 weeks. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? Yes. Will get either Win 7 home premium 64 or Win 8 system builder 64. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? Preferably Amazon. I have Prime, and also need to use a few hundred dollars I have in e-gift cards. Other considerations: Would like this system to run fairly quietly. Parts already owned: DVD drive (from current computer) 750gb HD (from current computer) Samsung MZ-7TD250BW 840 Series Solid State Drive (SSD) 250 GB Sata 2.5-Inch (new) Cooler Master Seidon 120M Liquid CPU Water Cooling System with Copper Heatsink and 120mm Radiator - 1 Fan (new) Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt ATX/EPS 80 PLUS (CX600) (new) Tentative build (nothing set in stone here): MSI Computer Corp. DDR3 1600 Intel LGA 1155 Motherboards (Z77A-G43) - $104 Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K - $220 Windows (undecided between 7 or 8) - $90 Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z No PS Mid Tower Gaming Case (Black) – $36 Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10) - $130 Arctic Silver 5 Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound Paste 3.5g - $8 Video card: no idea, please advise. Total: 590 + cost of video card. Amazon is sort.. of expensive? You do not need 16gb of memory for streaming or gaming. Memory is also an easy addition later where-as switching other components are much more complicated. Since your budget is so low, you can't afford to throw money away at additional memory when the rest of your configuration can be improved that would give more of a benefit than additional memory. Newegg has this amazing deal that ends today, G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4gb 2400MHz for $60 (promo code EMCXPVM42 ), http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666 BUY THIS ASAP! If you have no intention of upgrading from the ancient 1280x1024 resolution then a Radeon HD7770 would be super overkill and be able to max probably every game today and for the next two years or so. If you have intentions to get a 1080p display later, the 7770 can still do reasonably well but you may want to consider getting a better card like the 7850, GTX 650 Ti Boost, or 7870. No reason to get a 3570k when a 4670k is only $5 more expensive. If you decide to do this then you'll need a Z87 board instead so if you want to stick to Amazon, I'd suggest a Gigabyte Z87M-D3H or MSI Z87-G43, both of which are $120. Though I strongly suggest you purchase a bundle at Newegg, like this Core i5 4670k & Gigabyte Z87X-D3H combo at $355 with promo code Z87MB702 , ends 7/7: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1355051 You can also pricematch the 4670k with Amazon's price of $225 (though I have no experience with Newegg's Iron Egg guarantee so I'm not sure if you can do that if you purchase the item in a bundle). But even if you can't pricematch, it's only $10 more than a 4670k + Z87M-D3H / Z87-G43 (both worse). And why do you need a new OS, you can just re-use the one that came with your Dell unless that's like an XP or Vista key. And I'd suggest getting a NZXT Soruce 210 for $35 ($25 after mail in rebate) at Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146076 Most things are just better at Newegg unfortunately. | ||
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aBstractx
United States287 Posts
dual 1920x1080 benq xl2420t monitors What are you using it for? all kinds of gaming, streaming. What is your upgrade cycle? 2+ years When do you plan on building it? within a month Do you plan on overclocking? yes i do plan on overclocking. nothing too serious, probably like 4.2-4.4 ghz Do you need an Operating System? argghh me be needin' no operatin' system if you catch me drift. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? i may or may not. hey can someone check out a new build i'm putting together? i just went and answered those questions so you had a little better understanding of what i'm trying to do. i need it to be somewhat aesthetically pleasing. http://pcpartpicker.com/user/abstractsg/saved/1TH8 that's not the actual ram i chose, i chose http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313345 but they didnt have these on pc part picker, and i just added them to show the price. i basically chose them to match the motherboard, no other specific reason, and 8gb of ram is about $60 bucks anyway so figured nbd. the case im still in the air with. i like this case. if i do change the case the inside needs to be blacked out. went with 750w psu in case i ever add another gpu. and the fact that it was modular. i probably still have an excess of breathing room here, not sure though. any suggestions need to be modular please. the ssd i just went with a solid samsung 840 which is at a decent price atm for only $190. got the cheapest bluray player i saw on newegg. the gpu im not so sure of either.. suggestions here would be nice. i think that one is pretty damn good though i want to make sure im able to utitilize everything i have to its full potential like the 2 benq 120hz monitors. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On July 05 2013 07:32 aBstractx wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your resolution? dual 1920x1080 benq xl2420t monitors What are you using it for? all kinds of gaming, streaming. What is your upgrade cycle? 2+ years When do you plan on building it? within a month Do you plan on overclocking? yes i do plan on overclocking. nothing too serious, probably like 4.2-4.4 ghz Do you need an Operating System? argghh me be needin' no operatin' system if you catch me drift. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? i may or may not. hey can someone check out a new build i'm putting together? i just went and answered those questions so you had a little better understanding of what i'm trying to do. i need it to be somewhat aesthetically pleasing. http://pcpartpicker.com/user/abstractsg/saved/1TH8 that's not the actual ram i chose, i chose http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313345 but they didnt have these on pc part picker, and i just added them to show the price. i basically chose them to match the motherboard, no other specific reason, and 8gb of ram is about $60 bucks anyway so figured nbd. the case im still in the air with. i like this case. if i do change the case the inside needs to be blacked out. went with 750w psu in case i ever add another gpu. and the fact that it was modular. i probably still have an excess of breathing room here, not sure though. any suggestions need to be modular please. the ssd i just went with a solid samsung 840 which is at a decent price atm for only $190. got the cheapest bluray player i saw on newegg. the gpu im not so sure of either.. suggestions here would be nice. i think that one is pretty damn good though i want to make sure im able to utitilize everything i have to its full potential like the 2 benq 120hz monitors. Aesthetically pleasing is... subjective? Personally, I think ASUS's Z87 boards gold colour scheme is disgusting and that case is also ugly. Not to mention that ASUS Z87 boards are like the worse ones this generation and what's the point of having a pleasing interior when your case doesn't even have a clear side window? Rosewill Capstone 650M is significantly better (provides the same amount of power as the Hive) for $10 more. There was also a Shellshocker deal yesterday on the Seasonic X, a fully modular unit, for $100. I'd also consider a Seasonic M12II 650 for the same price as the Hive if you don't want to spend $10 more for the Capstone. If you want to pick this up today, 2x4gb 2400MHz for $60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666 then I'd go for a white & blue scheme with a Fractal Design Define R4 White Window edition. Or blue and black works too. Red and black works well too if you want to pick up a MSI Z87A-G45 Gaming and a MSI GTX 770 Gaming Twin Frozr. Gigabyte's Z87X-UD4H works well too if you are purchasing from Microcenter. Samsung 840 is regularly ~$170, on sale at ~$150. I would not pay $20 more for an installation kit that will probably never be used. Do you plan on doing Eyefinity / Surround with two monitors or doing it once you add a third 120Hz screen? You will definitely require SLI for Surround. But if this is not the plan than why get a second 120Hz monitor when you can get an IPS? Unless you want matching monitors? Which I admit is nice to have but a U2312HM's bezel design isn't all that different than the BenQ's. Oh and if you want aesthetically pleasing and budget is not of utmost concern, I'd get a Corsair H100i as it looks better than a dual radiator heatsink even if Phantek does have nicely colorred fans. | ||
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